What does Tennessee hiring of Glazier mean?

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TennMan101 said:
I wonder if AD Phillip Fulmer had a decision in hiring this guy? I love how most of our Sports programs are doing well, but several people are calling for Fulmer's head. Lol
Crazy season cracks me up.
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Fulmer didn’t hire the baseball coach. The basketball coach is only here because an administrator stepped in and paid him. Uninformed posters crack me up.
 
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vol66 said:
Right. In addition, if there’s enough evidence to fire him for cause, then there’s probably enough evidence for further sanctions. What coach worth anything would sign up for that great unknown to be hanging over the program?
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Thankfully while the NCAA has made horrible decisions. In the last few years they have put more emphasis on the perpetrators instead of hammering the school and the kids who did nothing wrong. Unfortunately we were one of the first universities to witness this with the famous Bruce Pearl show cause. Years before that. Sanctions like that we would be banned from post season for a couple seasons and or scholarships reduced to punish school.
 
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goooooovols said:
If anyone thinks we would fire a coach for recruiting or other violations but then turn around and hire Freeze is not thinking realistically! Does that even sound logical lol
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I didn’t say he would. All I implied was that Freeze would take the job under sanctions. I didn’t imply that we would hire him.
 
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DaddyChad said:
LSU has used Glazier in the past as well. Idk that it hurt them. Tennessee needs to get Fulmer out almost as badly if not worse than get Pruitt out.
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Why exactly does Fulmer need to go. Please be specific. Cause best I can tell getting rid of Fulmer the first time worked out great for us, had some really awesome ADs, Hostess Gate, Orange Pants, Bricks and Barbs dip. JP isn't the second coming of Neyland yeah.... but judging him based off 2020 seems silly, no spring practice,. no real preseason work and a bunch of freshman and sophomores with a few red shirts and JUCOs sprinkled in. Great recipe for success.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Well, it's all just so detailed for being completely made up. I mean,

a. you posit a leak occured.
b. you posit the leak was both internal and intentional.
c. you posit a specific time for the leak: around the UGa game.
d. you posit the staff began to turn on each other because of the leak, and started covering their own butts.
e. you posit some of the staff were hoping Pruitt would get fired.
f. you posit that the team started "sinking" because of all this coach infighting.
g. you posit that Pruitt somehow knew where some bones were buried implicating folks who would otherwise be in position to fire him.
h. you posit that the university otherwise wanted to and would have fired him.
i. you posit that, given all these conditions, the university has hired a lawyer specifically to "negotiate our way out" (of something, idk what...the blackmailing from all the buried bones?)

Now that's a whole hell of a house of cards built out of conjecture and speculation. I mean, imagining one or two of those, sure, but the entire edifice?

That's called writing a fictional novel. Heh.
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Your over-use of the word posit disturbs me.
 
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#85
The only reason you do this is to dig up dirt. Sleazy move by UT if true. Just give the man his money and move on. Everyone is in the SEC cheats except Vanderbilt.
 
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goooooovols said:
If anyone thinks we would fire a coach for recruiting or other violations but then turn around and hire Freeze is not thinking realistically! Does that even sound logical lol
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Logical? What’s logical anymore? 😉
 
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onevol74 said:
Must mean that our compliance department is inadequate to find the goods. Funny thing is that Fulmer was not aware of compliance involvement when it started. Maybe, we are going big in this investigation. The problem is we are creating conditions that will make it much more difficult for the next coach, which will limit our field of prospects.
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Hiring someone from the outside to look into these things helps assure the public there’s no ‘cooking the books’ much like being audited, I would assume.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Yep
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He was, Fulmer dissed Barnes Naismith Award, not bothering to attend the ceremony and event for his coach receiving the highest coaching award given in the basketball business, if your boss cannot appreciate and participate in that level of success, why stick around it will all be downhill from there, Boyd stepped in fixed the compensation issues, threw in some perks, Barnes now reports to Boyd, not the athletic director for obvious reasons.
 
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Mike Glazier to the football conference room

So, UT has hired the same guy to come in and investigate Pruitt that they hired when Pearl was in his mess

Is UT building the gallows?
 
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onevol74 said:
Must mean that our compliance department is inadequate to find the goods. Funny thing is that Fulmer was not aware of compliance involvement when it started. Maybe, we are going big in this investigation. The problem is we are creating conditions that will make it much more difficult for the next coach, which will limit our field of prospects.
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I don’t see it that way. I’m in healthcare administration, and it is common to handle some compliance issues internally and others via outside counsel. Especially those with higher stakes. In the case of UT, I think recruiting violations that might involve improper payments could have high stakes if proven to be true. Therefore turn this case over to a third party with industry credibility.
 
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BrentwoodVFL said:
I don’t see it that way. I’m in healthcare administration, and it is common to handle some compliance issues internally and others via outside counsel. Especially those with higher stakes. In the case of UT, I think recruiting violations that might involve improper payments could have high stakes if proven to be true. Therefore turn this case over to a third party with industry credibility.
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Imagine if CMS involved itself in college sports! 🤪
 
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TartanTurff said:
He was, Fulmer dissed Barnes Naismith Award, not bothering to attend the ceremony and event for his coach receiving the highest coaching award given in the basketball business, if your boss cannot appreciate and participate in that level of success, why stick around it will all be downhill from there, Boyd stepped in fixed the compensation issues, threw in some perks, Barnes now reports to Boyd, not the athletic director for obvious reasons.
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I did not know that Barnes reports to Boyd. This is not in Barnes’ contract. Where was this reported?
 
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BrentwoodVFL said:
I don’t see it that way. I’m in healthcare administration, and it is common to handle some compliance issues internally and others via outside counsel. Especially those with higher stakes. In the case of UT, I think recruiting violations that might involve improper payments could have high stakes if proven to be true. Therefore turn this case over to a third party with industry credibility.
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I agree. I work in pharma manufacturing and the use of outside experts is common in dealing with significant compliance/legal issues. Sometimes, the company just wants another opinion or confirmation that the planned course of action is in alignment with regulatory expectations and industry practice.
 
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