What coaches would be 6-0?

#76
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1986sugarvols said:
The old mad hatter les miles, the coach for Kansas St? And of course kiffy would be there, to bad kiffen is a douche. The head ball coach could have at least been 5-1
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You must have missed those games Kiffin totally mismanaged as a HC both here and USC.

People try to give him credit for how close he came to beating Bama in 09 but forget how badly Bama had to play to keep us in the game. They had a Heisman winning RB but tried to force 3 passes to Julio Jones in the end zone and settled for 3. Then that same RB had a very uncharacteristic fumble late in the game that set up our only TD. THEN Kiffin gave up on the final drive instead of running another play or two to get a little closer for his kickers I have a better shot at actually making the FG.

The guy is not HC material.
 
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JohnnyBall said:
Yes Harbaugh,the same guy who blew his big game last week.
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Harbaugh blew a lead because of a fluke play on a punt. Not because he's a scared idiot who made stupid decision after stupid decision and managed the clock in a way that made Les Miles look organized.
 
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Fullfillmer said:
What if Debord wasn't hired and a new oc came in with the same head coach. In this scenario we could hire anyone alive as oc but our budget tops out at $1,250,000. Which oc would have us at 6-0? I think Kiffin might be one that would have us at 6-0.
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By all means, we should hire Kiffen. Then fire his azz in the parking lot.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Several coaches would have beat Oklahoma and Florida. But, I don't think there is a coach in the country that could have beat Arkansas with our team. That was a horrific matchup for us.

Therefore, to answer your question, no coach could have us at 6-0. Not even Bill Belichick.
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What? We just needed better offensive play to beat Arkansas.
 
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Section N Row 5 said:
Never compared Saban and Jones, only talking to the subject. I don't think you can say any coach would have UT at 6-0 with this group of guys. Just saying that Saban has the best players and is not undefeated at this point in the season. For anyone to say a coach would have this team undefeated right now is just speculating and may not be correct.

I leave you with a quote from an Ex Player to the current players:
"Do your Job" Fred White
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To say that no other coach could've kept 2 4th quarter leads, something literally that every other coach in the country (with the exception of one other coach one time) had done this year at least 188 times through the first four weeks of the season is both silly and naieve IMO. It's also suggesting that Butch Jones, who has a sub .500 record at Tennessee, is just as good a coach as other coaches who have won 75-80% of their games and conference and national championships over a long period of time.

Finally, if you want to say that no other coach could've beaten teams we were completely blown out by like Oregon or Bama or Auburn in 2013, Butch's first year, then I could agree with that. But to say no other coach could've made the difference this year in 3 games that we lost by an average of 4 points per game? That's a little over the top to say the least IMO.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
You must have missed those games Kiffin totally mismanaged as a HC both here and USC.

People try to give him credit for how close he came to beating Bama in 09 but forget how badly Bama had to play to keep us in the game. They had a Heisman winning RB but tried to force 3 passes to Julio Jones in the end zone and settled for 3. Then that same RB had a very uncharacteristic fumble late in the game that set up our only TD. THEN Kiffin gave up on the final drive instead of running another play or two to get a little closer for his kickers I have a better shot at actually making the FG.

The guy is not HC material.
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I agree that Kiffin isn't head coaching material, he's much more suited to be a coordinator for sure. However, to use as your example the 2009 Bama game where he was in position to beat the eventual undefeated national champion on the road with a late field goal with the roster he had is probably not the way to go.
 
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If Medley makes the second attempted field goal at Florida we are winning the east and there is none of this "coaching malpractice" talk. If you watch enough football you realize there is an ebb and flow to most games, it's just exaggerated for us as VOL fans since we're ready to be winning again. There is a lot that can be dissected about each game,but for me, Medley missing that kick is the biggest mistake of the season. Our only conference loss would be to a team from the west. Coulda, woulda, shoulda...just make the mulligan kick.
 
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Mr. Lofton said:
If Medley makes the second attempted field goal at Florida we are winning the east and there is none of this "coaching malpractice" talk. If you watch enough football you realize there is an ebb and flow to most games, it's just exaggerated for us as VOL fans since we're ready to be winning again. There is a lot that can be dissected about each game,but for me, Medley missing that kick is the biggest mistake of the season. Our only conference loss would be to a team from the west. Coulda, woulda, shoulda...just make the mulligan kick.
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Yeah. **** him for not making a 55 yard field goal. Butch had Florida right where he wanted them.
 
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KBVol said:
Saban is 97-18 with 3 national titles at Alabama....guess I could research those losses and check for ya....there's not many, shouldn't take too long.
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Wonder what Spurrier could have done in his prime with 5 number one recruiting classes in a row? Old ball coach said Saban was a heck of a recruiter. Don't forget the 24 point lead Saban blew against Auburn in 2010 or the LA Monroe loss. It's sad when UT fans are defending Saban against Jones on a UT message board during Bama week. GBO
 
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KBVol said:
I agree that Kiffin isn't head coaching material, he's much more suited to be a coordinator for sure. However, to use as your example the 2009 Bama game where he was in position to beat the eventual undefeated national champion on the road with a late field goal with the roster he had is probably not the way to go.
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The point was Bama played bad to keep us in the game. Kiffin mismanaged the game at the end which put the kicker in a bad positive n to win the game.
 
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southgatevol said:
Has Saban ever blew any leads or lost any games in which he had the more talented teams? Or was it the players fault?
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last year's NC semifinal UA was up 21-6...talent was probably equal.....the tide, coaches and players, folded like a lawn chair in that game.
 
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Mr. Lofton said:
If Medley makes the second attempted field goal at Florida we are winning the east and there is none of this "coaching malpractice" talk. If you watch enough football you realize there is an ebb and flow to most games, it's just exaggerated for us as VOL fans since we're ready to be winning again. There is a lot that can be dissected about each game,but for me, Medley missing that kick is the biggest mistake of the season. Our only conference loss would be to a team from the west. Coulda, woulda, shoulda...just make the mulligan kick.
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What?? Lol. You think the biggest mistake of the season thus far is Medley missing a 55 yard fg at the buzzer? The problem was all the mistakes leading up to his fg try. If the clock and game was managed correctly he either doesn't have to attempt the fg or he attempts a much more manageable kick, not one that would've been his longest career kick by about 10 yards.
 
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Very difficult to say when it comes to 6-0.

The list you would probably give for 4-2 or better though is fairly long.
 
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KBVol said:
What?? Lol. You think the biggest mistake of the season thus far is Medley missing a 55 yard fg at the buzzer? The problem was all the mistakes leading up to his fg try. If the clock and game was managed correctly he either doesn't have to attempt the fg or he attempts a much more manageable kick, not one that would've been his longest career kick by about 10 yards.
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It is always the player's fault if the alternative is that it is Jones' fault...

Dang bo', ev'body 'no dat.
 
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Mr. Lofton said:
If Medley makes the second attempted field goal at Florida we are winning the east and there is none of this "coaching malpractice" talk. If you watch enough football you realize there is an ebb and flow to most games, it's just exaggerated for us as VOL fans since we're ready to be winning again. There is a lot that can be dissected about each game,but for me, Medley missing that kick is the biggest mistake of the season. Our only conference loss would be to a team from the west. Coulda, woulda, shoulda...just make the mulligan kick.
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If Jones had the ummmmm... gumption.... to throw a pass on the 2nd to last UT drive then one of two things would have happened. One, UT would have made a 1st down and ended the game. Two, the incompletion stops the clock and even if the exact same events play out for UF... UT has more time for the final drive.

Being passive and ultra-conservative simply does not work. Versus UF and OU, Jones tried to "manage" the game... and lost. Versus UGA, he coached the players to win the game... and won.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Several coaches would have beat Oklahoma and Florida. But, I don't think there is a coach in the country that could have beat Arkansas with our team. That was a horrific matchup for us.

Therefore, to answer your question, no coach could have us at 6-0. Not even Bill Belichick.
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He would...he's so good at cheating & not getting caught that he gives Calipari lessons
 
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1986sugarvols said:
The old mad hatter les miles, the coach for Kansas St? And of course kiffy would be there, to bad kiffen is a douche. The head ball coach could have at least been 5-1
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K State just got waxed 55-0 at home. What makes you think Snyder would have UT undefeated at this point?
 
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