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What would be your reaction if we lost games by 5 points or so rather than the double digit blowouts? Would you applaud the effort and attribute the losses to youth and lack of practice time? Would you extend mercy to CJP and forgive him this one year even if we were still losing 5 - 6 in a row?
 
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In 2015 and 2016, Florida won the East and I wasn’t happy.

I used the phrase that Florida was the tallest midget.

What I wanted was to see them play good football and they weren’t playing good football. Now, of course, if you play “good football”, you’re going to win games.

But, those teams won games, won the division, and still looked like garbage.

So, I think this is a big deal because Tennessee can go 7-5 next year and the win-loss record will look better and people will point to improvement, but they can still be playing bad football.
 
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No. The youth excuse isn't valid and every team has had to deal with the practice disruptions associated with covid. If Pruitt was going to succeed here, we would be on an upward trajectory by now. I don't expect a natty by year 3, but I do expect us to be on an upward trend as opposed to a train wreck. #Freezetothehill
 
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HoopCreekVol said:
What would be your reaction if we lost games by 5 points or so rather than the double digit blowouts? Would you applaud the effort and attribute the losses to youth and lack of practice time? Would you extend mercy to CJP and forgive him this one year even if we were still losing 5 - 6 in a row?
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It does not matter if Tn wins, Pruitt should be fired. One game does not prove that Pruitt is the man that needs to be here. As a matter of fact , Fla should fire Mullen if Tn wins
 
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If we lost to UGA or Alabama by 5 points, sure. Shows effort. We lose to Kentucky at home by any points. Or to a first year coach that beat us with the Arkansas team, based on their record the last few years. Those things are hard to overlook regardless of the score. And Arkansas is a good example of actually changing the culture of a losing football team. I am more impressed with what Pittman has done in one season than what Pruitt has done in three.
 
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HoopCreekVol said:
What would be your reaction if we lost games by 5 points or so rather than the double digit blowouts? Would you applaud the effort and attribute the losses to youth and lack of practice time? Would you extend mercy to CJP and forgive him this one year even if we were still losing 5 - 6 in a row?
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5 point losses to UGA and Bama with wins over KY and AR I would say Pruitt had us going in the right direction.
 
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A lot to be said here about playing good football. That is the problem. We are seeing players not improving but actually regressing in some cases. Yes, some areas really are improving but then in other areas (QB) it is so bad, it tanks the whole team. If we had lost to Bama and GA by 5 points, we would have been playing some good football, considering the talent gap. Losing to Arkansas at all exposes how badly we played.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
A loss is a loss.

Pruitt would still need to be fired.
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The issue isnt as much the losses but we keep doing the same thing every week. We arent prepared, roll out same QB, OL and LBs get confused, fail to make adjustments, and we end up steamrolled.

If we lost close games by playing young players and not making the same mistakes over and over, I'd be more OK with that.
 
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GTBATV said:
If we lost to UGA or Alabama by 5 points, sure. Shows effort. We lose to Kentucky at home by any points. Or to a first year coach that beat us with the Arkansas team, based on their record the last few years. Those things are hard to overlook regardless of the score. And Arkansas is a good example of actually changing the culture of a losing football team. I am more impressed with what Pittman has done in one season than what Pruitt has done in three.
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Losing to Kentucky period is bad. Shouldn’t happen more than once a decade if at all.
 
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99gator said:
In 2015 and 2016, Florida won the East and I wasn’t happy.

I used the phrase that Florida was the tallest midget.

What I wanted was to see them play good football and they weren’t playing good football. Now, of course, if you play “good football”, you’re going to win games.

But, those teams won games, won the division, and still looked like garbage.

So, I think this is a big deal because Tennessee can go 7-5 next year and the win-loss record will look better and people will point to improvement, but they can still be playing bad football.
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We need to go better than 7-5 next year for me to be happy. we need to pull one away from our 3 biggest rivals and not get blown out by the ones we lose too. We were 7-5 last year and supposed to have better talent than before. I'm tired of average and under development. 8 wins minimum.
 
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HoopCreekVol said:
W Would you applaud the effort and attribute the losses to youth and lack of practice time?
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If you lose 5 close ones in a row, I think you just conclude that coaching, talent, and maybe player mentality (for whatever reason) is worse than the competition. If we lost by 20 points it would be more worse, "worser". You don't pick your excuse based on margin. I don't see any reason to. You pick the margin based on margin. Are we a little worse or a lot worse?
 
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Im done with baldar . will root for the vols . he is the captain of this mess and must own it.
 
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Not if he keeps rolling out the same QB, game after game after game, while he continues to make the same miscues that caused a couple of those losses. Not when you can see no halftime adjustments time after time leading to some of those losses. Not when you can see no improvement overall across the team so far through the season. You would think, if a team that loses a couple of 5-6 point games in a row, could make adjustments stop the skid. This staff isn't up to that challenge the streak will continue to 6 double digit losses in a row and will be 7 for the season if we play T A&M.
 
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99gator said:
In 2015 and 2016, Florida won the East and I wasn’t happy.

I used the phrase that Florida was the tallest midget.

What I wanted was to see them play good football and they weren’t playing good football. Now, of course, if you play “good football”, you’re going to win games.

But, those teams won games, won the division, and still looked like garbage.

So, I think this is a big deal because Tennessee can go 7-5 next year and the win-loss record will look better and people will point to improvement, but they can still be playing bad football.
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I think those are called regular people.
 
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HoopCreekVol said:
What would be your reaction if we lost games by 5 points or so rather than the double digit blowouts? Would you applaud the effort and attribute the losses to youth and lack of practice time? Would you extend mercy to CJP and forgive him this one year even if we were still losing 5 - 6 in a row?
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Since that would likely show some improvement in the scheme, and obviously from the QB position I would, like I did after the first two games, give credit where credit is due. It would lead one to believe some things had been addressed.

However....too little too late. It's no secret I've never liked Pruitt. I believe we saw his ceiling as a HC last year, and likely won't see it again. He's not the one.

That said, I still don't believe Tennessee has the stones to do what they need to do. We'll keep him and be bad again next year.
 
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Being competitive in a loss is not just a "moral victory". It indicates that you are close to playing winning football. Getting blown out... says you aren't and worse yet may not have the character to win.

You should never be "happy" with a loss. A loss is... a loss. But a competitive loss is reason for hope. When you are blown out by a less talented UK team... that's not just a loss. It is an indication of direction in your program.
 
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