Well Well Well.....!!!

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Longsufferingvol said:
You obviously dont understand context man. He had that underdog program competing in a brutal west division. Again.... He almost knocked off Bama with no talent. Imagine what he will do at a program like Florida loaded with talent.
But it is no use giving you facts.... You are probably one of the idiots who applauded Butch for being 8-4 in a weak East division because it was improvement... Context dude... It's the difference between being 8-4 in a weak azz east with 4 and 5 star players and being 8-4 in a brutal west division with 2 and 3 star players. Can you not see the difference?
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Does 12-9 sounds familiar with NO talent?
 
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#180
82_VOL_83 said:
No, because you can't argue with college students that know everything.
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Fortunately the rest of us get smarter again a few years after a college student graduates, but it's pretty insufferable until then. Somehow I suspect a lot of it has to do with separation from their commie mentors and a dose of finally having to make it on their own.
 
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Ya never know! Sooners in final #4 had #8 class in 17. Got beat this year by a good (OKS) Cowboy team. #38th in 17. I really really like our recruits so far. We've got some really good players left on campus. Truly believe Coach Pruitt and other Coaches will have several of those guys NFL ready by end of season.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'll never get the blind coach worship people do. If any other program in the SEC had hired Pruitt these same people would probably be laughing at them.

Will he be a good coach? I don't know, you don't know. No one does. That's the problem. That's unacceptable at Tennessee and it's why we're in the 3 ring circus the last decade. We keep making the same mistakes and taking the same gambles and we keep losing.

I wanted to stop going all in on a 7-2 hand but the AD took it up a notch and here we are. He's going to have to be Coach Prove-It. No more feel good rah rah garbage. Win damn games.
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There are only 2 surefire great coaches, Saban and Meyer. Everyone else is a crapshoot. I think he was as reasonably possible good coach as we are getting. At least we tried the coordinator route this time, the up and coming coaches haven’t really planned out that well.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Real facts to make everyone but you feel better...

In the post-Fulmer era, we hired Lane Kiffin. His major claim to fame was being the son of legendary NFL defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin. Lane, good DNA and all, was a backup QB at Fresno State...was at USC during a 23-2 run which saw him advance to Offensive Coordinator...and then went 5-15 as an NFL head coach. Had a good year here, and then bailed for his true love, USC. Brilliant offensive mind, but dumped us for the hot California job that would later fire him for losing. Currently tearing it up at FAU, which will be the next school he dumps for more money and brighter lights. My guess would be somewhere back out west. Lane was the one-night stand with the super hot chick that turns out to be a stripper that used us as the rebound guy.

Strike One.

Next came Derek Dooley. Go figure, we went with the good DNA thing again, because Derek came to us after a sterling 17-20 run at Louisiana Tech. The Son of Vince turned out to be a bust, but hey...those orange pants were worth the wasted millions, right?

Strike Two.

Time to shake things up, so we went with a former trumpet player from somewhere in Michigan who built his rep by following Chip Kelly, and losing to Derek Dooley. His record was 27-13 at a directional Michigan school, and 14-11 at Cincinnati, which is one level above a directional Michigan school. Helluva recruiter, not so much a coach. He went 34-27 at UT, which would be okay for, say...Central Michigan or Cincinnati...but not at UT. In the end, he was probably as glad to get fired as we were that he got fired.

Strike Three. Still with me?

So now it's Jeremy Pruitt. Here's where nothing we did makes sense. After chasing (or not) a former NFL head coach who really had no interest in us other than the fawning adoration of a starving, misled, and desperate fan base; then a succession of "they would do good here" coaches who used us to get pay raises at their current jobs; Chip Kelly, who was never going to come here; and then finding out that our beloved (and "ex") AD only had one name in mind, and that it was a coach with a mediocre record at a mediocre school in New Jersey, and an NFL record that proved he should have stayed in New Jersey, not to mention the fact that exactly zero other schools with a head coaching vacancy had even bothered to call him; and then after a series of events that would make for a great soap opera episode...we go back to our past to shape our future by hiring the guy we fired so many years ago as our head football coach to be...yep, you guessed it...our new AD.

And in less time than it took you to read this (well, sort of) he hires the Defensive Coordinator at Alabama as our new head football coach. Can it get any worse, you might ask?

Well...compared to our last 3 head coaches, here's what we got:
- He actually played college football. At MTSU and Alabama. That fact alone puts him ahead of Kiffin, Dooley, and third trumpet.
- As a high school assistant coach, he was on a staff that won state championships in 2004 and 2005.
- In 2009 (Alabama) and 2013 (Florida State) he was on a staff that won a national championship.
- As the defensive coordinator at Georgia and Alabama, he has coached defenses that consistently ranked among the best on the nation.
- His defense at Alabama, this year, is probably the main reason they are in the CFB playoff. He might have one more ring on his hand when he arrives in Knoxville to stay next month.

In short, Jeremy Pruitt is everything that Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, and Butch Jones were not. He's a proven winner.

So I'm of the opinion that we ought to give him a year onboard, at least, before we start burning couches again. Based on what he's done in just two weeks on the job, I don't think that's too much to ask for.

He's a winner. Let's give him the chance to prove it. Here.

Go Vols.
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Excellent post .
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Elijah Craig 18
Blanton's
Bullitt Rye
Maker's
Gentleman Jack (surprisingly delicioso)
Chattanooga Whiskey 1816 Reserve

McCallan 12, 15, or 18
Various other single malts that I have in the cabinet that I can't remember at the moment.
Chivas if I'm going cheap
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I’m from Chattanooga and would honestly rather drink green label Evan over chatt whiskey. Good call on the gentleman jack though. Great whiskey.
 
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Lurker said:
First, I doubt Pruitt would be ethically comfortable trying to pike players he recruited for Alabama while on Alabama's dime. He's coaching for them now for the playoff, but I doubt Saban is letting him get within a mile of their new recruits.

Second, I wouldn't be so sure UT won't potentially benefit from his (or the new staff's) existing relationships with kids looking at programs other than Alabama. These new recruiting names being bounced around in the last few days are not names I recall being prominently discussed under the old guard.
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If he is letting Saban tell him who he can recruit to UT then he may be the worst hire in the history of sports.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'll never get the blind coach worship people do. If any other program in the SEC had hired Pruitt these same people would probably be laughing at them.

Will he be a good coach? I don't know, you don't know. No one does. That's the problem. That's unacceptable at Tennessee and it's why we're in the 3 ring circus the last decade. We keep making the same mistakes and taking the same gambles and we keep losing.

I wanted to stop going all in on a 7-2 hand but the AD took it up a notch and here we are. He's going to have to be Coach Prove-It. No more feel good rah rah garbage. Win damn games.
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You are gonna pass judgement one way or another, why not be positive and supportive?
 
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Lurker said:
First, I doubt Pruitt would be ethically comfortable trying to pike players he recruited for Alabama while on Alabama's dime. He's coaching for them now for the playoff, but I doubt Saban is letting him get within a mile of their new recruits.
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Think Kirby let Saban approve his recruits? That's nuts. Saban is a control freak, but he can't control that. As a matter of fact, I'd say Kirby will out recruit Saban from this point forward, and once CJP get's his sea-legs, UT will be right in there.

Take the TE Woods-Anderson as an example. Some sites had him as 92% Bama bound. CJP plucked him right up! That's HUGE.

If Auburn hadn't beaten Bama, the SECCG might just have been the passing of the torch to a new generation of coaches. Nothing lasts.

UGA-Bama could still happen. Doubt Bama get's past Clemson, but you never know.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Real facts to make everyone but you feel better...

In the post-Fulmer era, we hired Lane Kiffin. His major claim to fame was being the son of legendary NFL defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin. Lane, good DNA and all, was a backup QB at Fresno State...was at USC during a 23-2 run which saw him advance to Offensive Coordinator...and then went 5-15 as an NFL head coach. Had a good year here, and then bailed for his true love, USC. Brilliant offensive mind, but dumped us for the hot California job that would later fire him for losing. Currently tearing it up at FAU, which will be the next school he dumps for more money and brighter lights. My guess would be somewhere back out west. Lane was the one-night stand with the super hot chick that turns out to be a stripper that used us as the rebound guy.

Strike One.

Next came Derek Dooley. Go figure, we went with the good DNA thing again, because Derek came to us after a sterling 17-20 run at Louisiana Tech. The Son of Vince turned out to be a bust, but hey...those orange pants were worth the wasted millions, right?

Strike Two.

Time to shake things up, so we went with a former trumpet player from somewhere in Michigan who built his rep by following Chip Kelly, and losing to Derek Dooley. His record was 27-13 at a directional Michigan school, and 14-11 at Cincinnati, which is one level above a directional Michigan school. Helluva recruiter, not so much a coach. He went 34-27 at UT, which would be okay for, say...Central Michigan or Cincinnati...but not at UT. In the end, he was probably as glad to get fired as we were that he got fired.

Strike Three. Still with me?

So now it's Jeremy Pruitt. Here's where nothing we did makes sense. After chasing (or not) a former NFL head coach who really had no interest in us other than the fawning adoration of a starving, misled, and desperate fan base; then a succession of "they would do good here" coaches who used us to get pay raises at their current jobs; Chip Kelly, who was never going to come here; and then finding out that our beloved (and "ex") AD only had one name in mind, and that it was a coach with a mediocre record at a mediocre school in New Jersey, and an NFL record that proved he should have stayed in New Jersey, not to mention the fact that exactly zero other schools with a head coaching vacancy had even bothered to call him; and then after a series of events that would make for a great soap opera episode...we go back to our past to shape our future by hiring the guy we fired so many years ago as our head football coach to be...yep, you guessed it...our new AD.

And in less time than it took you to read this (well, sort of) he hires the Defensive Coordinator at Alabama as our new head football coach. Can it get any worse, you might ask?

Well...compared to our last 3 head coaches, here's what we got:
- He actually played college football. At MTSU and Alabama. That fact alone puts him ahead of Kiffin, Dooley, and third trumpet.
- As a high school assistant coach, he was on a staff that won state championships in 2004 and 2005.
- In 2009 (Alabama) and 2013 (Florida State) he was on a staff that won a national championship.
- As the defensive coordinator at Georgia and Alabama, he has coached defenses that consistently ranked among the best on the nation.
- His defense at Alabama, this year, is probably the main reason they are in the CFB playoff. He might have one more ring on his hand when he arrives in Knoxville to stay next month.

In short, Jeremy Pruitt is everything that Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, and Butch Jones were not. He's a proven winner.

So I'm of the opinion that we ought to give him a year onboard, at least, before we start burning couches again. Based on what he's done in just two weeks on the job, I don't think that's too much to ask for.

He's a winner. Let's give him the chance to prove it. Here.

Go Vols.
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Good post. I salute you, Sir
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Real facts to make everyone but you feel better...

In the post-Fulmer era, we hired Lane Kiffin. His major claim to fame was being the son of legendary NFL defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin. Lane, good DNA and all, was a backup QB at Fresno State...was at USC during a 23-2 run which saw him advance to Offensive Coordinator...and then went 5-15 as an NFL head coach. Had a good year here, and then bailed for his true love, USC. Brilliant offensive mind, but dumped us for the hot California job that would later fire him for losing. Currently tearing it up at FAU, which will be the next school he dumps for more money and brighter lights. My guess would be somewhere back out west. Lane was the one-night stand with the super hot chick that turns out to be a stripper that used us as the rebound guy.

Strike One.

Next came Derek Dooley. Go figure, we went with the good DNA thing again, because Derek came to us after a sterling 17-20 run at Louisiana Tech. The Son of Vince turned out to be a bust, but hey...those orange pants were worth the wasted millions, right?

Strike Two.

Time to shake things up, so we went with a former trumpet player from somewhere in Michigan who built his rep by following Chip Kelly, and losing to Derek Dooley. His record was 27-13 at a directional Michigan school, and 14-11 at Cincinnati, which is one level above a directional Michigan school. Helluva recruiter, not so much a coach. He went 34-27 at UT, which would be okay for, say...Central Michigan or Cincinnati...but not at UT. In the end, he was probably as glad to get fired as we were that he got fired.

Strike Three. Still with me?

So now it's Jeremy Pruitt. Here's where nothing we did makes sense. After chasing (or not) a former NFL head coach who really had no interest in us other than the fawning adoration of a starving, misled, and desperate fan base; then a succession of "they would do good here" coaches who used us to get pay raises at their current jobs; Chip Kelly, who was never going to come here; and then finding out that our beloved (and "ex") AD only had one name in mind, and that it was a coach with a mediocre record at a mediocre school in New Jersey, and an NFL record that proved he should have stayed in New Jersey, not to mention the fact that exactly zero other schools with a head coaching vacancy had even bothered to call him; and then after a series of events that would make for a great soap opera episode...we go back to our past to shape our future by hiring the guy we fired so many years ago as our head football coach to be...yep, you guessed it...our new AD.

And in less time than it took you to read this (well, sort of) he hires the Defensive Coordinator at Alabama as our new head football coach. Can it get any worse, you might ask?

Well...compared to our last 3 head coaches, here's what we got:
- He actually played college football. At MTSU and Alabama. That fact alone puts him ahead of Kiffin, Dooley, and third trumpet.
- As a high school assistant coach, he was on a staff that won state championships in 2004 and 2005.
- In 2009 (Alabama) and 2013 (Florida State) he was on a staff that won a national championship.
- As the defensive coordinator at Georgia and Alabama, he has coached defenses that consistently ranked among the best on the nation.
- His defense at Alabama, this year, is probably the main reason they are in the CFB playoff. He might have one more ring on his hand when he arrives in Knoxville to stay next month.

In short, Jeremy Pruitt is everything that Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, and Butch Jones were not. He's a proven winner.

So I'm of the opinion that we ought to give him a year onboard, at least, before we start burning couches again. Based on what he's done in just two weeks on the job, I don't think that's too much to ask for.

He's a winner. Let's give him the chance to prove it. Here.

Go Vols.
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Someone put this dude on the UT payroll!! He needs to be the team motivational speaker before every game!
Props to you!!!
 
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