Website for previous seasons

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Several years ago I came across a website that had H.S. football seasons by school. I've been searching for it but cannot find it.

Anyone know what website that is or where I can find it? It is not the prep database.

Thanks
 
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Checked those and wasn't them. Last time I looked on it they said it was in the process of changing over but I dunno. Have feeling the prep data base is what it was changing to. But, it's not as informative.
 
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Checked those and wasn't them. Last time I looked on it they said it was in the process of changing over but I dunno. Have feeling the prep data base is what it was changing to. But, it's not as informative.
Coacht has them but you have to get them for each individual season by sorting through the years from the football database. Takes forever to do. I just did it to check what my alma mater(Sullivan North) career record was in football.

To my surprise they were over .500 but that's because of the past 10 years or so. We only won 3 total games my four years there from 1986-1989 so a rough stretch there.

I remembers one season we had a head coach with the name of Doug Martin that actually ate bugs as his pre-game meals. He would even eat them in the classroom in front of everybody on gameday. You talking about a crazy coach.

Of course, he only lasted 1 year with an 0-10 record & being that crazy on top of a very bad season. We didn't get a much better coach the next 3 years either winning 3 games in 3 seasons. 2-1-0. After I graduated we've had a couple of pretty good coaches especially the one that's there now in Robbie Norris.

He was a heck of a football player when he went to school at North in the early 1980's when the school was built. There will be no more Sullivan North High School after 2018 though. The city is buying the building out & making it a feeder middle school for Dobyns-Bennett High School.

The students from North are going to be moved to 3 different high schools in the area for a few years. Then, the plan is to build a brand new high school to fit between 1500-2000 students in for the whole county students to attend in high school. That's going to be crazy because right now we have 4 county high schools. Thanks.
 
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Checked those and wasn't them. Last time I looked on it they said it was in the process of changing over but I dunno. Have feeling the prep data base is what it was changing to. But, it's not as informative.
IknoxvolsI, if the site you are referring to is High School Football Database (green background on the home page, multiple season scores listed on a school's home page), please read on; if not, ignore.

The HSFD site was my site; the Tennessee Prep Football Database is as well. I closed the HSFD site down a couple of years ago with the plan to transfer all the data to the TPFD site, and that is still the plan. Without getting into coding mumbo-jumbo, the HSFD site was a pain to update. I had to enter data manually, manually create every hyperlink, do mental/calculator math to update records, etc. It was a time-consuming and imperfect endeavor that just wore me, a "staff" of one, out. The idea behind the TPFD site was/is to have everything driven off of a true database, where scores only have to be entered once, hyperlinks are created automatically, and calculations are made by the database, eliminating human error in calculations.

The trouble with the transfer from HSFD to TPFD is that process, too, is time-consuming. I estimate it will take 500 man-hours to get all the data transferred, and as a hobby site (i.e., it's something I do in my spare time for no pay, 2-3 hours at a time a couple of days a week around my day job and family obligations), the math says it will take me several months to get all of the old HSFD data transferred. I wish it could be a quicker process, but frankly, there are plenty of consumers of such data out there but very few willing to do the research, learn coding, etc., and even fewer wanting to do it for free.

While I will agree that the TPFD site is not as informative currently, it will be eventually after the transfer. And while I will agree that the TPFD site is not as user-friendly as the HSFD site (the main complaint I get is having to scroll through season scores, where available, individually, versus seeing them all on one page), the school pages with complete histories are much more informative. For example, on the HSFD site, you could only see records versus opponents for certain schools but with no link to the history; on the TPFD site, there is a link to each opponent where one can see not only the records but also the actual game scores versus that opponent. As for other data on the site, if there is another individual site where one can find all 47 years of historical playoff records and scores, all-state players by school and source, bowl games, NFL draftees, etc. in one place, I haven't seen it.

There are other great score resources already mentioned in this thread, at least two of which have season score data and even more data associated with each (game dates, home/away, etc.). With that said, those sites go back only to the early-to-mid 2000s, and even those seasons have to be scrolled through individually (and the state history sites which I can consider the deepest in terms of data - Alabama and Georgia - also have scores available only through individual season scroll-throughs). For those schools for which I have full team histories - some provided by hardcore, loyal fans, but most provided by my own research after hundreds of hours at the State Archives poring through dozens of papers on microfiche, the scores go back well before the 2000s - in some cases, the early 1900s if not the 1800s in a few cases.

Long story short, I hope to make TPFD a deeper, more user-friendly site at some point. In the interim, if there is a school (or schools) for which you want to see the scores that you could see on the old HSFD site, I'll do what I can to accelerate the uploading of the scores to the site, as I still have every file from the old site.
 
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IknoxvolsI, if the site you are referring to is High School Football Database (green background on the home page, multiple season scores listed on a school's home page), please read on; if not, ignore.

The HSFD site was my site; the Tennessee Prep Football Database is as well. I closed the HSFD site down a couple of years ago with the plan to transfer all the data to the TPFD site, and that is still the plan. Without getting into coding mumbo-jumbo, the HSFD site was a pain to update. I had to enter data manually, manually create every hyperlink, do mental/calculator math to update records, etc. It was a time-consuming and imperfect endeavor that just wore me, a "staff" of one, out. The idea behind the TPFD site was/is to have everything driven off of a true database, where scores only have to be entered once, hyperlinks are created automatically, and calculations are made by the database, eliminating human error in calculations.

The trouble with the transfer from HSFD to TPFD is that process, too, is time-consuming. I estimate it will take 500 man-hours to get all the data transferred, and as a hobby site (i.e., it's something I do in my spare time for no pay, 2-3 hours at a time a couple of days a week around my day job and family obligations), the math says it will take me several months to get all of the old HSFD data transferred. I wish it could be a quicker process, but frankly, there are plenty of consumers of such data out there but very few willing to do the research, learn coding, etc., and even fewer wanting to do it for free.

While I will agree that the TPFD site is not as informative currently, it will be eventually after the transfer. And while I will agree that the TPFD site is not as user-friendly as the HSFD site (the main complaint I get is having to scroll through season scores, where available, individually, versus seeing them all on one page), the school pages with complete histories are much more informative. For example, on the HSFD site, you could only see records versus opponents for certain schools but with no link to the history; on the TPFD site, there is a link to each opponent where one can see not only the records but also the actual game scores versus that opponent. As for other data on the site, if there is another individual site where one can find all 47 years of historical playoff records and scores, all-state players by school and source, bowl games, NFL draftees, etc. in one place, I haven't seen it.

There are other great score resources already mentioned in this thread, at least two of which have season score data and even more data associated with each (game dates, home/away, etc.). With that said, those sites go back only to the early-to-mid 2000s, and even those seasons have to be scrolled through individually (and the state history sites which I can consider the deepest in terms of data - Alabama and Georgia - also have scores available only through individual season scroll-throughs). For those schools for which I have full team histories - some provided by hardcore, loyal fans, but most provided by my own research after hundreds of hours at the State Archives poring through dozens of papers on microfiche, the scores go back well before the 2000s - in some cases, the early 1900s if not the 1800s in a few cases.

Long story short, I hope to make TPFD a deeper, more user-friendly site at some point. In the interim, if there is a school (or schools) for which you want to see the scores that you could see on the old HSFD site, I'll do what I can to accelerate the uploading of the scores to the site, as I still have every file from the old site.
I appreciate all the work you put in, buddy. I used the HSFD many times when looking up historical facts and scores and I still do the same now with TSFD. Not going to lie, I liked the old site better, but I understand the need to to update.
 
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I appreciate all the work you put in, buddy. I used the HSFD many times when looking up historical facts and scores and I still do the same now with TSFD. Not going to lie, I liked the old site better, but I understand the need to to update.
Thanks for the feedback. While I certainly want to get all the data transferred first, I also want to make the TPFD site more user-friendly, so I will work on that this year as well.

Are there certain schools or geographical areas you are more interested in than others? As I do the transfers, I do it somewhat randomly, trying to spread out the transfers by school sizes (classifications) and East/Middle/West areas. If you (or anyone else) have any specific requests, I can try to put those on as requested.

Thanks.
 
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Out of curiosity, is there a way to get it back up in the mean time?

I really enjoyed looking at it.
There is no way to get the old site back online; someone else bought the domain and it's some foreign casino site that has nothing to do with high school football.

There is the Internet Archive (https://archive.org/index.php) that caches (saves) some pages of internet sites, current and defunct. If you go to that site and type in hsfdatabase.com, you can see some of the former pages from 2005-2014. But those pages will only show scores through the year in which you're searching.

The TPFD site (http://www.tennprepdb.com), while only showing a season at a time, has about 150 full program histories (through 2016) online and another 30-40 partial histories online (anywhere from 25-60 years worth). I'd like to get all the scores transferred first (and it takes about an hour per school), and then I'll try to work on aesthetics and formatting to make multiple seasons visible at one time.
 
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There is no way to get the old site back online; someone else bought the domain and it's some foreign casino site that has nothing to do with high school football.

There is the Internet Archive (https://archive.org/index.php) that caches (saves) some pages of internet sites, current and defunct. If you go to that site and type in hsfdatabase.com, you can see some of the former pages from 2005-2014. But those pages will only show scores through the year in which you're searching.

The TPFD site (http://www.tennprepdb.com), while only showing a season at a time, has about 150 full program histories (through 2016) online and another 30-40 partial histories online (anywhere from 25-60 years worth). I'd like to get all the scores transferred first (and it takes about an hour per school), and then I'll try to work on aesthetics and formatting to make multiple seasons visible at one time.
Thanks tennprep. I spent hous and hours looking at schools, and their seasons going back years. Some years before I was in HS and did not realize some of the schools my school played. The greatest part was the w/l and some even had scores.

Thank you for doing all of that/this. U should know you are appreciated.
 
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Thanks tennprep. I spent hous and hours looking at schools, and their seasons going back years. Some years before I was in HS and did not realize some of the schools my school played. The greatest part was the w/l and some even had scores.

Thank you for doing all of that/this. U should know you are appreciated.
Thanks for the positive feedback. I'll continue to update and improve the user-friendliness of the site.
 

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