We need to cut Fulmer some slack

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Rasputin_Vol

Rasputin_Vol

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"I mean he makes $2 million a year and we are just being too hard on him. He's under tremendous pressure and constant scrutiny. How many of us have people second guessing us at our jobs like Fulmer? Does anybody second guess you when you don't make a sale or lose a deal at your job? Does anybody have the pressure that Fulmer has?"
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Well, you get the gist of this. These are essentially the comments I heard as I was driving around at work today listening to Mickey Dearstone and the Gang here in Knoxville.

Yeah, I just have deadlines, budgets and occassionally people's safety in my hands with my job. But at least I don't have the pressure of having to earn $2 million a year. I'm sure there are some people in here that may be in sales that have to get paid on commission or people that have to work two jobs to keep the lights on. You people have no idea what real pressure is.
 
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i see the point, but the constant scrutiny of the Vol faithful is an enormous burden. cfb fans are a brutal lot.
 
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I agree Rasputin..I dont work 2 jobs but the struggle to make due every month is still there. $2 mill is more than the avg person will make in their lifetime. I dont feel sorry for him in the least. If he got fired tommorrow he will still get millions just for being the coach. How many of us would get paid not to work? Yeah there is pressure in his job but he gets paid very well for it.
 
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Fans may be too hard on him at times but most of them know if they did not do their job they would be canned and without a buyout.
 
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Goes with the territory. He has earned praise as much as he as earned criticism.

The real pressure are our soldiers defending this nation to allow us the freedom to criticize.
 
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I wouldnt say we have no idea of what real pressure is. yeah he is under pressure to perform, but whos to say the people that struggle to keep the lights on and have mouths to feed, dont feel the same pressure?
 
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brg72 said:
Goes with the territory. He has earned praise as much as he as earned criticism.

The real pressure are our soldiers defending this nation to allow us the freedom to criticize.
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You know I havent thought about that untill now but your right. Those soliders put their lives on the line for us.

If fulmer cant handle the presure he shouldnt be a cfb coach. He should go to the nfl 4 losses a year is ok there.
 
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givem6 said:
I wouldnt say we have no idea of what real pressure is. yeah he is under pressure to perform, but whos to say the people that struggle to keep the lights on and have mouths to feed, dont feel the same pressure?
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Uhh, that is the point. The people that actually do REAL work (not coach football) truely do have pressure. Fulmer doesn't have to worry about a house payment or his retirement or college tuition. Meanwhile, Joe Six pack is supposed to cut him slack instead of asking why Fulmer deserves a raise/extension.
 
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goodness knows I'm no Fulmer lackey, but he is at the helm of a multi million dollar revenue business
 
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brg72 said:
The real pressure are our soldiers defending this nation to allow us the freedom to criticize.
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How dare you compare a soldier's pressure to that of Fulmer? Fulmer has the pressure to perform well because he has the careers of his assistant coaches tied into the teams performance as well. (I swear, I actually heard the argument made that these asst. coaches' careers are in Fulmer's hands... $100K a year for coaching football ain't a bad gig).
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How dare you compare a soldier's pressure to that of Fulmer? Fulmer has the pressure to perform well because he has the careers of his assistant coaches tied into the teams performance as well. (I swear, I actually heard the argument made that these asst. coaches' careers are in Fulmer's hands... $100K a year for coaching football ain't a bad gig).
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I think that was the point.. That fulmer doesnt know what real pressure is. The soliders have the real pressure.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
goodness knows I'm no Fulmer lackey, but he is at the helm of a multi million dollar revenue business
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In essence, aren't most of us responsible for multimillion dollar businesses? No, maybe we don't OWN them, but you know as well as I do that s^&t runs downhill. If some guy in the factory has a bad day or makes a mistake making widgets and triggers a recall because of his error, he just made a multi-million dollar mistake. Guess what... that guy will likely get fired and have to worry about putting food on his table. What happens if Fulmer is fired? 30 less acres on Watts Bar or Ft. Loudon Lake?

And the argument was also made that none of us have our performance evaluated every week. :no:
 
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I also might not say Phil doent know pressure either. Yeah he doesnt have the financial pressure but I am sure he really wants to win and takes lots of pride in coaching and when you are not doing as well as you would like etc. one can feel some hard pressure also.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How dare you compare a soldier's pressure to that of Fulmer? Fulmer has the pressure to perform well because he has the careers of his assistant coaches tied into the teams performance as well. (I swear, I actually heard the argument made that these asst. coaches' careers are in Fulmer's hands... $100K a year for coaching football ain't a bad gig).
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I know right. Enlisted soldiers make close to 30k a year to disable IED"S in the streets of Baghdad. While at the same time Fulmer needs his annual raise and extension. I better lay off ole Phil and tell those soldiers to do a better job.
 
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brg72 said:
I know right. Enlisted soldiers make close to 30k a year to disable IED"S in the streets of Baghdad. While at the same time Fulmer needs his annual raise and extension. I better lay off ole Phil and tell those soldiers to do a better job.
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The value of the dollar is falling. $2 million doesn't go as far as it used to. :crazy:
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Uhh, that is the point. The people that actually do REAL work (not coach football) truely do have pressure. Fulmer doesn't have to worry about a house payment or his retirement or college tuition. Meanwhile, Joe Six pack is supposed to cut him slack instead of asking why Fulmer deserves a raise/extension.
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Coaching football is real work. Fulmer works plenty hard for his money. I'm not saying we should feel sorry for him, but it isn't like he's just collecting a check every year for working a few Saturday afternoons.
 
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These guys are well-paid for the public scrutiny they get. They are independently wealthy thanks to coaching, most after a few years, don't have a financial need to coach.
 
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kptvol said:
Coaching football is real work. Fulmer works plenty hard for his money. I'm not saying we should feel sorry for him, but it isn't like he's just collecting a check every year for working a few Saturday afternoons.
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I dont doubt that he does work hard.. However there are pleanty of people in this country that work just as hard(some alot harder) and make no where near as much money.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Uhh, that is the point. The people that actually do REAL work (not coach football) truely do have pressure. Fulmer doesn't have to worry about a house payment or his retirement or college tuition. Meanwhile, Joe Six pack is supposed to cut him slack instead of asking why Fulmer deserves a raise/extension.
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"Joe six pack" is also likely to contribute very little to the UT cause so it's a stupid comparison. Don't like the pay at the top then don't buy the product. UTAD is self-sufficient and would go under without public support. The market is a powerful thing if used correctly.
 
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The job is what it is, highly paid and highly visible. Anybody in any job should be held accountable for their performance, and the accountability should only increase with compensation.

Its premature to judge Fulmer at this point. We win the SECCG and he makes up for the embarrassing losses, we lose and we're 9-4 with bad losses to our chief rivals... and shown no measureable improvement over 2006.
 
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The fact of the matter is that he does get paid very well for the heat he endures. If I got a big bump in my commission rate with the understanding that to make it work I had to produce more deals. That would mean more stress but more money it is a balance. Don't feel sorry for him, he at leatst seems to be eating well.
 
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