We have our QB for 2009

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volsgrad89

volsgrad89

Let the mediocrity end!!!
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Unless, we land a top 10 QB this year. Right now, it doesn't look possible. Coleman will be the starting QB next year. He has the size and tools to fit Kiffin's system.

Kiffin won't waste his time developing Crompton to have on the field one season. Plus, Crompton's confidence is shot. Crompton and Stephens will get their shot. But, Coleman will win the starting job.

Remember, Cutcliffe was very high on Coleman. We all know what Cutcliffe's judgement and coaching has produced with QBs. Cutcliffe has more knowledge on scouting and developing QB talent than Fulmer and Clawson ever dreamed about having.

Pro-style quarterback
Chattanooga (TN) The McCallie School

Ht: 6-foot-4
Wt: 180 lbs
Class: 2007 (High School)

Rivals.com Rating: 5.8 (About)
Position Ranking: 10

Tennessee (signed LOI) COMMITTED
(6/21/2006) 12/8/2006 David Cutcliffe
Louisville None None
Ole Miss None None

Rushing Passing
Statistics Att Yds TD PA PC Pct Yds TD Int
2004 (So.) - - - - - - 1,993 15 -
2005 (Jr.) - - - - - - 2,203 19 3
2006 (Sr.) 51 241 7 257 166 64.6 2,927 19 5

65% completion percentage, 3,000 yards and 4 to 1 TD to INT ratio is very solid, better than Crompton and Stephens their senior year.
 
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Im on the Coleman bandwagon too, and everyone said he is a natural leader. and we NEED ONE!!!
 
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Mark Sanchez's numbers his Jr and Sr year:

2003........191 143 74.8 2,460 29 7
2004 (Sr.) 186 114 61.3 1,746 16 2

Totals.......................4,206 45 9

Coleman's numbers:

2005 (Jr.) - - - - - - - - - - - - -2,203 19 3
2006 (Sr.) 51 241 7 257 166 64.6 2,927 19 5

Totals.......................................5,130 38 8

Granted, you can't judge based on numbers alone. A lot depends on competition, offensive line, and balance of the offense. But, Coleman's stats are very comparable to Mark Sanchez from USC. Also, Coleman had 17.63 yards per completion. Which is very good for high school.
 
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Anyone that is a Barkley fan gets no respect from most people, including myself.
 
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volsgrad89 said:
Unless, we land a top 10 QB this year. Right now, it doesn't look possible. Coleman will be the starting QB next year. He has the size and tools to fit Kiffin's system.

Kiffin won't waste his time developing Crompton to have on the field one season. Plus, Crompton's confidence is shot. Crompton and Stephens will get their shot. But, Coleman will win the starting job.

Remember, Cutcliffe was very high on Coleman. We all know what Cutcliffe's judgement and coaching has produced with QBs. Cutcliffe has more knowledge on scouting and developing QB talent than Fulmer and Clawson ever dreamed about having.

Pro-style quarterback
Chattanooga (TN) The McCallie School

Ht: 6-foot-4
Wt: 180 lbs
Class: 2007 (High School)

Rivals.com Rating: 5.8 (About)
Position Ranking: 10

Tennessee (signed LOI) COMMITTED
(6/21/2006) 12/8/2006 David Cutcliffe
Louisville None None
Ole Miss None None

Rushing Passing
Statistics Att Yds TD PA PC Pct Yds TD Int
2004 (So.) - - - - - - 1,993 15 -
2005 (Jr.) - - - - - - 2,203 19 3
2006 (Sr.) 51 241 7 257 166 64.6 2,927 19 5

65% completion percentage, 3,000 yards and 4 to 1 TD to INT ratio is very solid, better than Crompton and Stephens their senior year.
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Is this correct? He looks 230+....
 
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I think Coleman has a very good shot at getting the starting spot next year. Some of the players said he was a leader last year, as only a freshman. I think he will do good his next few years here at TN.
 
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I don't see why without proper coaching one of our three qb's can't have a spectacular '09 season. We had all the tools for '08, it was the execution that was a disaster along with the playcalling. I mean, I do see other teams make ridiculous calls on 3rd and long and get a first down....
 
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even watching some of his play during the vandy game, i could tell he was very confident. I'm rooting for this guy. I really feel that confidence and a team leader are what tghe vols NEEEEED
 
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BJ Coleman should not see the field the rest of his time at tennessee. i asked to see what he can do and its not much. sub par arm strength, long delivery, absolutely no field vision. stephens is by far a better option. crompton will win the job and will play much better this year. I am not a fan of any of the three. just my opinion that crompton comes out on top of this
 
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it needs to be pointed out that Coleman was the tenth best pro style qb, not just the tenth best qb. Also it needs to be pointed out that even after a year with Cutcliffe and then a year with Clawson, his footwork is still nothing short of dreadful. If Coleman is our starting QB next season, I don't see much good.

Of course, he played at McCallie and so many on here saw him play so he's great. Because they saw him play. He played in Chattanooga. He's the real deal. He's awesome. Amazing. He played at McCallie.
 
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and of course, since we are looking at Coleman's HS ratings, it should be noted that Crompton was the 2nd best Pro Style QB behind only Mark Sanchez and fits the mold of Kiffin's qb really well too. 6'3, 211 coming out of high school. We saw last year how well his high school stats held up.

The best qb on this team is Nick Stephens. If someone can help him get his accuracy down, he'll be about 12 rungs higher on the ladder than any current qb on Tennessee's roster. And I should note that any scout will tell you accuracy is much easier to get down than footwork or other mechanics. Especially mental ones, which seem to be Crompton's biggest issues.
 
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volsgrad89 said:
Unless, we land a top 10 QB this year. Right now, it doesn't look possible. Coleman will be the starting QB next year. He has the size and tools to fit Kiffin's system.

Kiffin won't waste his time developing Crompton to have on the field one season. Plus, Crompton's confidence is shot. Crompton and Stephens will get their shot. But, Coleman will win the starting job.



Bolding it won't make it so. I do agree with you, though. Kiffin will get sick of Crompton's and Nick's inability to make good decisions and go with the smarter player. Hopefully, Coleman's mechanics will improve before the season starts.

Edit: We don't have to have our QB be all SEC next year. With our defense we can win with a game-manager and a decent running game. What we can't afford is to play QB's who can't hand the ball off, understand where the WRs should be or throw 5 yards away from the WR. An understanding of clock management would be nice too.....
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KSUVOL said:
even watching some of his play during the vandy game, i could tell he was very confident. I'm rooting for this guy. I really feel that confidence and a team leader are what tghe vols NEEEEED
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the Vandy safety thought BJ looked confident too as he ran by him into the endzone
 
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Anyone who tells you who the QB for next year will be is merely speculating. Bottom line is that even with mediocre QB play (which would be a huge step up from this year), this team can win 7-9 games.
 
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utvolpj said:
the Vandy safety thought BJ looked confident too as he ran by him into the endzone
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You can't just throw him off ship for that though. I mean they were letting him throw maybe once every 8-10 plays. What do you expect when you are getting to throw more then that? I mean what he played for most of the first half and he was only 4 for 6 or something at half time? 6 PASSES IN 2 QUARTERS?

So you can't judge him by 6 passes in one game.

With that being said, I would like to see him start and do a great job for us next year, but i'm not sure he will be the best fit. In my mind he will be the best fit, but i'm from Chattanooga, so of course i want to see him tear it up in K ville. I see Coleman or Stephens starting next year though.
 
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utvolpj said:
the Vandy safety thought BJ looked confident too as he ran by him into the endzone
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And a once shakin Ainge who throw a pass to a D lineman on the 2 yard line so he could avoid taking a safety, also bounced back with Confidence!

The right system and the right coach will take a decent QB and make him look great.

I see the competition being between Stephens and Coleman. Crompton is done because he does not have enough time to be wasted on him.

3 things I think we need.

1. Offensive Line Coach to teach the correct blocking methods, (God only knows what Clawsen taught them?)

2. A WR and WR coach that demands players to run the right routes and get seperation for once!

3. A QB that manages the game and does not turn the ball over a lot!
 
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Wanting Coleman to start reminds me of all the Cromptonites who wanted Crompton over Ainge. The backup qb comes in and does poorly and all of a sudden you people want him to start. Makes no sense.
 
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TravisHenryCBlockedMe said:
Wanting Coleman to start reminds me of all the Cromptonites who wanted Crompton over Ainge. The backup qb comes in and does poorly and all of a sudden you people want him to start. Makes no sense.
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What are the other options? Of the two Qb's we saw this year neither of them exhibited good leadership qualities. Coleman seemed to do that to some extent in his limited time. Add the fact that he was running the scout offense and had little if any true game prep and he showed more upside than the others IMO, why not give him the shot?
 
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Goliver24 said:
You can't just throw him off ship for that though. I mean they were letting him throw maybe once every 8-10 plays. What do you expect when you are getting to throw more then that? I mean what he played for most of the first half and he was only 4 for 6 or something at half time? 6 PASSES IN 2 QUARTERS?

So you can't judge him by 6 passes in one game.
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Sure you can. He was not good enough to beat out either Crompton/Stephens and the coaching staff was so confident in him that they gave him only 6 attempts.

We don't have a D-I QB on this team but I hope CLK can make 1 at least serviceable enough to get through 09 with 7-9 wins. That would be amazing coaching.

m37bruno said:
And a once shakin Ainge who throw a pass to a D lineman on the 2 yard line so he could avoid taking a safety, also bounced back with Confidence!
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huge difference since Ainge at least showed he had the ability in 04. BJ has shown nothing
 
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The people saying that kiff won't waste his time on Crompton can't be more wrong. If he sees that Crompton gives him the best chance to win he will develop him. I've seen nothing from BJ Coleman to proclaim him the starter next year. That reminds me of myself saying Brent Vinson was going to be a stud receiver for us without anything to base it on. Oops.

And to people saying Crompton has no confidence left, did you watch the games? Cromp would throw an interception and that cocky son of a gun would still trying to act like a stud. For some God awful reason he has loads of confidence.
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I think it will be Coleman next season, just because he's seemingly the only leader we have. Crompton just can't make the right reads, and from what I've heard, Stephens tried to blame all of his mistakes on everyone else, and got sat down for it.
 
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