we have no chance against virgina tech

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IV_Hokie12 said:
Edit: btw there are 1760 yards in a mile. Since Billy Hite has been the RB coach VT has rushed for 42 and a half miles.
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Forgive me, but I am not sure what that has to do with anything. I am sure that you are not wanting to compare rushing stats over the last 32 years. Also does it have anything to do with the fact that you have been in a doormat conference,with exception to Miami, for a majority of that time?
 
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trevols81 said:
i still cant understand the loss to UCLA(this year or last)
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Because a very high percentage of Vol fans - like yourself - thought the UCLA games were going to be cakewalks, despite the fact that the Bruins had a pretty good defense and a superlative kicking game both years. The general opinion that the games were both "gimmes" had to influence the UT players in some way, don't you think?

On the field the two team were not that different, at least at the start of the season. Both teams were in both games to the very end. Perhaps if the Vols had turned down the SEC hype a little and had used "Cal..Cal...Cal" as their mantra they would have won both games. We will never really know for sure. I don't think you can overestimate how much college kids are susceptible to suggestion.

UCLA does play UT again in 2010 - but it's Texas and not Tennessee, so good luck to the Vols in 2010 in ALL of their games.
 
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tripper said:
You know 2 #1's don't count.
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The only guy said the Nebraska doesn't help out SOS because we lost. Well there are two things wrong with that statement. One we beat Nebraska. Two if you use that logic that Tennessee really hasn't played anyone.
 
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#80
Congrats on Temple loosing their leading rusher in the first half.
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IV_Hokie12 said:
The only guy said the Nebraska doesn't help out SOS because we lost. Well there are two things wrong with that statement. One we beat Nebraska. Two if you use that logic that Tennessee really hasn't played anyone.
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One, I know you beat Nebraska (I would definitely say luckily) and two, logically we are going to beat you, no matter who we have NOT played.
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I love when were underdogs so we can show people how good we are like agianst bama and fla (even though we lost we did better than anyone thought). But nobody has given tennessee any credit especially Lou holtz eventhough noone listens to him. Now all we need to do is show why the SEC is so good
 
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IV_Hokie12 said:
Yes we shall completely ignore Nebraska because they aren't in the same conference as VT and they have a DT who tossed around Colt McCoy like a rag doll. We can also ignore that all four of VTs OOC opponents are bowling. Also we can ignore that 4 of VTs opponents played in conference championship games and three of them won their champtionship games. I wouldn't want to include that an ACC team, Clemson, manhandled an SEC team that took UT into overtime. (If Wisky handled Miami than Clemson handled UK)

I also wouldn't want to point out the UT doesn't have a single win over a team that is currently ranked. UTs most impressive win overall is USC would was ranked when played, but isn't any longer. UTs most impressive OOC win is Ohio.

I always hear that 7-5 SEC is harder to come by than 9-3 ACC, but that is completely ignoring 1/3 of the schedule. Yes you guys played Bama like we did, but we did that on top of our conference schedule. We also did that with Nebraska and ECU. All three teams played in their conference championship games and two of them won. The only one who didn't participate in their conference championship game is Marshall and even they went bowling. None of the OOC teams yall played participated in conference championship games or won their conference. In fact, other than Ohio in the Mac, none of them were even in contention to win their conference.
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VT plays in a very weak conference and that's why it is difficult to predict how they will match up against UT. That's all. NCSU, Maryland, UVa, and Duke are all at or below the Vandy level. There wasn't a team in the ACC this year that would have finished above mid-pack in the SEC this year. That's just a simple fact. UK belongs in the ACC more than the SEC. They are at their high water mark right now in football... which for the Cats means a "historic" run of 4 consecutive seasons with 7 or 8 wins.

The fact that a beat up UT team played them poorly is embarrassing... but not indicative of any kind of trend between the those two programs or the strength of the two conferences this year.

Did you really say that Clemson manhandled UK though? The game went into the 4th qtr 14-13. Clemson scored late after a fumble created a short field to make it 21-13. UK came up one yard short on 4th down at Clemson's 25 on their last 4th qtr drive. UK held them to their ACC season avg in rushing and about 60 yds under their ACC avg for total O.... Remember, UK is a traditional cellar dweller in the SEC that finished 5th in the SEC East while Clemson was a division champ this year in the ACC.

I live in Big 12 country and Nebraska backed into the CG by being basically the least incompetent team in the Big 12 North. To give you an idea, the North rep was decided in the last weekend of the reg season. KSU lost putting NU in the CG.... KSU also became bowl ineligible with that loss.

NU played better than expected vs Texas... and it is pretty well acknowledged that Texas didn't take NU serious enough.

I respect Pelini. I respect what he's doing at NU. But they are rebuilding right now at best. They had no business in that game. Suh is the only player on their team likely to be drafted this year and probably next.

FTR, VT may slap the Vols around... I don't know. UT WAS a mid-pack team in the SEC this year for the most part. The Vols are thin almost everywhere and need more talent to reach the top of the SEC. That said, when they've been healthy... even with less talent... they played Bama and UF like they belonged at the top.

On Thursday, UT will be as healthy as they've been since Frazier's knee injury (So Csr in the 7th game).
 
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IV_Hokie12 said:
Coaching staffs? Average defensive rankings for the past 5-10 years (it doesn't matter what exact number you use) and VT comes out to be the best in the country and it isn't close for 2nd. (Bud Foster)
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Do you seriously think that should impress us while you play in the ACC? Not only that... but an ACC where FSU and Miami were barely a shadow of their former selves?


Frank Beamer....
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and his staff have done a fine job at VT. The program is relevant and at the top of the ACC. But they haven't gotten it done at the highest levels on the National scene... and you very matter of factly DID get manhandled by Bama... total yardage 498 to 155 ring a bell? (same Bama team btw that UT statistically dominated but lost to because the Vol kicker was trying to go with a strained quad).
Your coach just got fired last year.
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Try reading about the guy. NFL folks in the know routinely refer to Kiffin as one of the brightest minds in football at any level. He was the youngest NFL HC working for Al Davis... do you really think there's alot of shame in getting fired?

Better offense or defense? I'd confuse you with stats, but then I'd just hear the same "We play in the SEC." line that gets old real fast. Its like the cop out to everything.
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Yes. Let's compare your OC's NFL stats to Chaney's and Kiffin's. Let's compare Foster's NFL stats to Monte's... and saying that the SEC is a much, much better conference right now than the ACC in football isn't a cop out... it is a universally recognized TRUTH among anyone who knows anything about college football.
 
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Oh... kind of glad you keep talking about Nebraska though. I probably know more about them than you do.

No one would confuse them for even a midpack offensive team in the Big 12 (11th in total O, 8th in scoring O)... but they dominated the Hokies statistically-343-278. That was 80 more yds than they avg'd against the Big12... a conference not exactly known for great D of late. Ark St had 274 against them the week prior to your game.

PS- this will be your 5th game against the SEC in the past 6 years if I'm not mistaken... want to guess how many you've won? The last two were played against top tier SEC teams... and they weren't competitive games. If VT was in the SEC... they'd be a mid-pack team.
 
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IV_Hokie12 said:
The only guy said the Nebraska doesn't help out SOS because we lost. Well there are two things wrong with that statement. One we beat Nebraska. Two if you use that logic that Tennessee really hasn't played anyone.
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We'll do our talking on the field. I'm glad your so confident but the team that executes and makes plays wins. Your stats and predictions mean nothing. Go vols!
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Somebody wanted their thread clicked on.... Good Title... lol.

This is going to be a hard game. To watch and play. Vtech is gonna have some break away plays, it's their offense. However, I think Berry, McCoy and company have a lot to prove before a lot of them move on. I'm really excited about this game.

I'm callin

TN 28
VT 17
 
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hmanvolfan said:
It was the same thing with Miami at the '85 Sugar Bowl. Except nobody, anywhere gave the Vols a snowballs chance in hell.
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I Was There
The Canes Thought They Had Won The National Championship Before The Game Had Started!

What A Special Night That Was!
We Calmed The Hurricane That Night For Sure :rock:
 
#94
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It will be who comes out and executes their game plan best. Normally is with the bowl game.
 
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ericberry4heisman said:
in the eyes of everyone other than us it seems, if you go to espn.com and look at the simulation that predicted us to win everyone is laughing at it saying they will do this and that if tennessee wins and talking about how we will get "dominated" i (manning4mvp16) posted a reply to them saying why we have a shot, all of my friends also seem to think we are going to lose, the espn predictons have said we will lose

so my first question is, what makes them think that?

and my second one is, do you think it will help motivate us with nobody giving us a chance?
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everybody in ohio seems to think we will get dialed by 28 as well. buckeye fans suck the worst.
 
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IV_Hokie12 said:
VT was #1 in the country for 2 consecutive years and top 5 for 4 consecutive years. This would have been year #6 in the top 10, but we are 11 or 12. Also we would have top 10 defenses almost every year prior to 2003. 2003 was really our only bad defense for the past 15 years. Almost all the other have been in the top 20. That kind of consistency is outstanding coaching. There is a reason that SS wanted him at Florida and USC. Mark wanted him at UGA. He has interviewed for several HC jobs including Clemson. Bud Foster is the best defensive coach in college football and that is including MK, and I certainly don't want to take anything away from Kiffin.

Edit: btw there are 1760 yards in a mile. Since Billy Hite has been the RB coach VT has rushed for 42 and a half miles.
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This is the most ignorant statement of the day....Bud Foster would be the 3rd or 4th best DC in the SEC....I will take Monte, Johnson, Smart, Strong (Lou.), Chavis over Bud Foster and his porno Mustache....Next thing is when you play weak schedules every year (This year was an exception) You will have good D numbers..Where are all the 1st round picks from these dominating D's, (D-Hall 1st round) Macho 5th round haha....UT's Recruiting coordinator makes a lot more then Bud Foster...Face it chokie fans your program is not all that....B-burg is a joke with not much to offer except the smell of cow crap (Never in the top 15 in recruiting)..
 
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Bud foster---overrated, coaching in a weak conference. UT will put up big points against the Va Tech D.
 
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ericberry4heisman said:
in the eyes of everyone other than us it seems, if you go to espn.com and look at the simulation that predicted us to win everyone is laughing at it saying they will do this and that if tennessee wins and talking about how we will get "dominated" i (manning4mvp16) posted a reply to them saying why we have a shot, all of my friends also seem to think we are going to lose, the espn predictons have said we will lose

so my first question is, what makes them think that?

and my second one is, do you think it will help motivate us with nobody giving us a chance?
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I think this team and staff likes everyone thinking that we have no chance.....They use it as motivation
 
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... angry statement about how my team and confrence are WAY better than yours followed by a statistical refrence that shows my depth of knowledge. Followed by some sort of emoticon showing my that my intelectual supreiority has prevailed once again. :peace2: Rabble!
 
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Maynard76 said:
... angry statement about how my team and confrence are WAY better than yours followed by a statistical refrence that shows my depth of knowledge. Followed by some sort of emoticon showing my that my intelectual supreiority has prevailed once again. :peace2: Rabble!
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dam straight! :rock:
 
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