We can run the table !

#26
#26
Tennessee certainly COULD run the table, but this weekend will be a huge indicator. After a few games, our games in terms of toughness rank like this:

1. Florida
2. LSU
3. @ Georgia
4. @ Arkansas
5. @ South Carolina

Games 4 and 5, to me, won't be in question. Arkansas hasn't looked good, and S. Carolina has looked awful. UGA might NOT have their QB situation fixed by our game. Stafford looks new, and not ready. Tereshinski stunk and is hurt.

If we beat Florida, the season becomes incredibly promising. As always, THIS WEEKEND IS THE GAME!
 
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#27
jakez4ut said:
huh? :crazy: i think our history at QB speaks for itself...it's not like we had chopped liver....Peyton Manning, Heath Shuler, Andy Kelly, Tee Martin....i think Fulmer has done fine in regards to qb's...
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No disagreement there... but none of those guys has taken a snap at UT in about 7 years.

It took them two Clausens to figure that one out.

Ainge looks pretty good though.

My point was that Spurrier seems to find guys that are underrated. Smelley was rated well above average but not up there with Stafford.
 
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allvol said:
First the team should be focused on beating Florida, then every other opponent one game at a time. The goal is to win the SEC-East, then win the SEC Championship Game and see where that leads.

But to think the anybody ought to be worried about not making a bowl this season... pleeeeasee!! give me a break :BANGHEAD2: your posts are usually more well thought out than that?
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I recall people talking about a national championship last year pre season. We didn't play in a bowl last year that I recall. Further, with addition of bowl games this year - everyone who goes 6-6 plays in a bowl, at least thats what I heard.

As far as losing more games... Until a W is placed in the win coloum I I don't count on anything anymore. Every W is a gift that I will take, whether its over UK or Vandy I don't care.

Despite the orange blood running through my veins I suppose I'm a realist and don't see the world through an Orange tint.
 
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sjt18 said:
No disagreement there... but none of those guys has taken a snap at UT in about 7 years.

It took them two Clausens to figure that one out.

Ainge looks pretty good though.

My point was that Spurrier seems to find guys that are underrated. Smelley was rated well above average but not up there with Stafford.
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which tells me that he looks for guys that fit his system, and it is dependent upon having excellen skill position players on the outside, which he always had at Florida....he has one at SC...i don't think his qb's have been that great, and by that i mean, just super talented...they ran the system and put the ball in the hands of hte people that had the talent. He doesn't have that yet at SC...

and as for the mention of those other qb's, you made it sound like we were getting scraps all these years by insinuating that we should just follow Spurrier's lead when recruiting qb's....it didn't make any sense to me...hence the response....:thumbsup:
 
#30
#30
Orange tint or no, any realist can see the Vols are playing much better than last season. They'll be in a bowl no doubt.

After Cal's massacre of Minnesota, the Vols win over Cal even becomes more impressive to me.

And those that didn't witness the Air Force game have a hard time comprehending the final score. The Vols won't face an option team again this season. And everything had to work to perfection for Air Force in the final 6 minutes of the game just to give them their opportunity. And not putting them away (while leading 31-17) will be a valuable lesson learned for these young players in upcoming games.

Last season's Vols would be 0-2 at this point.
 
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#31
Not to mention... As much as most people don't like the guy, Casey Clausen was a very capable QB.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Tennessee certainly COULD run the table, but this weekend will be a huge indicator. After a few games, our games in terms of toughness rank like this:

1. Florida
2. LSU
3. @ Georgia
4. @ Arkansas
5. @ South Carolina

Games 4 and 5, to me, won't be in question. Arkansas hasn't looked good, and S. Carolina has looked awful. UGA might NOT have their QB situation fixed by our game. Stafford looks new, and not ready. Tereshinski stunk and is hurt.

If we beat Florida, the season becomes incredibly promising. As always, THIS WEEKEND IS THE GAME!
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I agree with the teams but not the rankings.

UF is definitely dangerous but I think LSU is the best team in the SEC this year. While the schedule is against them, they could still pull it off.

Right now, I'd have to move UF above UGA in performance but the Vols play at Sanford. For that reason, I think the UF game is more winnable than the UGA game.

OTOH, UT seems to do better at UGA than against them at home.

BTW, has anyone else noticed the 08 schedule?

It begins with: NCSU (H), UCLA(A), UF(H), Aub(A), San Jose St (H), UGA (A).

Whoever is doing OOC scheduling for the Vols is a UF/Bama plant and needs to be fired.
 
#35
#35
i don't think LG thinks Florida is going to run the table and go undefeated...and i don't think any team in the SEC will either.
 
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rwemyss said:
Not to mention... As much as most people don't like the guy, Casey Clausen was a very capable QB.
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I actually like the guy, respect the guy, appreciate what he did within his capability, while still realizing that he never had physical skills that scared opposing DC's or could raise the team to the next level.

The other guys mentioned did. Ainge does... his head was the question. Crompton appears to have the physical tools.

My knock against Clausen was never personal or disrespectful in any way. He just didn't have "difference making" physical skills.

I don't think he ever caused them to lose a game they should have won... nor did he ever cause them to win a game they should have lost.
 
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sjt18 said:
I actually like the guy, respect the guy, appreciate what he did within his capability, while still realizing that he never had physical skills that scared opposing DC's or could raise the team to the next level.

The other guys mentioned did. Ainge does... his head was the question. Crompton appears to have the physical tools.

My knock against Clausen was never personal or disrespectful in any way. He just didn't have "difference making" physical skills.

I don't think he ever caused them to lose a game they should have won... nor did he ever cause them to win a game they should have lost.
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i don't have any problems with your post...i think it's pretty fair...

but the 02 florida game was awful...all the fumbled snaps etc...Casey didn't have a great day that day...and same goes for the 02 bama game...i think he willed that team to victory...same in the OT Ark game...
 
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#41
I think everyone in the SEC who is currently undefeated has a chance.

Right now, I would give UT a better chance than anyone in the east due to the schedule. A win at UT would swing that back in favor of UF whose next road test would come against Auburn. FSU doesn't look like a problem this year.

If Auburn loses against LSU as I expect then I think UF's chances of getting a win there will improve.

UGA's biggest problem is that they'll probably lose games before they figure out the QB position.
 
#43
#43
sjt18 said:
I think everyone in the SEC who is currently undefeated has a chance.

Right now, I would give UT a better chance than anyone in the east due to the schedule. A win at UT would swing that back in favor of UF whose next road test would come against Auburn. FSU doesn't look like a problem this year.

If Auburn loses against LSU as I expect then I think UF's chances of getting a win there will improve.

UGA's biggest problem is that they'll probably lose games before they figure out the QB position.
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If UGA loses to Col, Ole Miss (who looked absoultely terrible against Mizzou) or UAB...then i will officially say TN will beat UGA. until then, i just don't think underestimating UGA is wise.
 
#44
#44
BTW, when the SEC first rolled the divisional system out, people were saying then that no team would ever go undefeated again... and Bama did that year. UT has since as has Auburn.

It isn't as easy as going undefeated in the BE, Pac10, or maybe even the Big10... but it isn't impossible and there are 5 teams this year with enough talent to do it if things fall their way.
 
#45
#45
Not underestimating UGA at all. They just have trouble at the QB position and haven't looked nearly as dominating in the run game as most predicted.

They're still very talented and a definite threat.
 
#46
#46
Vol Mania 21 said:
I will say this, I think that if all 3 coaches (fulmer, chavis, cut) will stay together for a while we could b on the edge of another NC and that would give us 7, I just want to catch up to Bama in that. Does ne one know who has the second most NC's? and where UT ranks on that list?
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I don't think you can count most of those National Championships. The number I can currently state that Tennessee has won without starting to giggle currently stands at 2.


Mr. Rockytop said:
It is possible that we can run the table on our schedule. I think only Georgia and LSU pose a threat of stopping that, however Georgia has lost their starting QB, so it is not far fetched ! Go Vols !
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I will consider such possibilities if, on the Sunday after our trip to Georgia, they are still worth considering.
 
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#47
cotton said:
I don't think you can count most of those National Championships. The number I can currently state that Tennessee has won without starting to giggle currently stands at 2.
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The 6 seasons were 1938, 1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, and 1998.

I would not giggle so much over the 3 seasons from 1938-1940. Oddly enough, only 2 of those seasons were the Vols selected by NCAA recognized polls as being national champions. The 1939 team that did not give up a single point during the season was passed over by all polls. The Vols finished all 3 seasons with perfect 10-0 records and imho can claim championships as well as any other undefeated team. It should also be noted that bowl games were "non-games" and did not factor into National Championships until the mid-1960s. (1965 and 1968-current) The Vols final AP (pre-bowl) rank in each of those seasons was 2nd, 2nd, and 4th. However, the NCAA recognizes more than just the AP. For the 1938 season, the Vols are national champions in no less than 7 officially recognized rankings. For the 1940 season, the Vols are national champions in no less than 4 officially recognized rankings.

The 1956 team also finished the regular season with a perfect 10-0 record. They also finished 2nd in the AP (pre-bowl).

In 1967, Tennessee (9-1) finished the regular season at #2 behind Southern Cal (9-1). That was the last season when the National Championship was selected prior to the Bowl Games.

If the argument regarding bowls is made, the Vols would not have won the National Championship in 1951... BUT they WOULD have won in 1950 after defeating Texas in the Cotton Bowl. They would have also won in 1938 after defeating Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl. And lastly, you would have to go back in a time machine and tell the coaches and players that the game actually mattered and was not just an excuse to take a trip.

However, to sum up, according to the website, College Football Data Warehouse, the most acceptable selectors throughout history are the National Championship Foundation, Helms Athletic Foundation, and the College Football Researchers Association. The Vols are noted for 4 National Championships amongst these few rankings. They were for the following seasons: 1938, 1950, 1951, and 1998.
 
#48
#48
I don't see us finishing unbeaten. I hate to say it but I see us slipping up at least 2 times. 3 is definately possible, but hopefully no more.
 
#49
#49
College football warehouse says what they want. They give Notre Dame more titles than they TAKE credit for. I don't have a perfect way to count national titles, but I think your best bet is the school official athletic site.
 
#50
#50
My count for Tennessee is 6. Others may disagree.

What I believe, is Bama with their 12.
USC, Notre Dame, and Michigan have 11. That is what their websites say, and that is what I have seen watching their games when it has been bought up.
 
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