We are probably offering 480K - 895K for DC

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With the bump to CDD salary beyond that of CLK we probably have about 400k less to offer than we did to Monte at 1.2MILL

So, coaches like Muschamp and Maybe Smart though I doubt he makes more than 425k right now would be the only ones we shouldn't be able to get, if you break it down to raw numbers.

We could easily have offered STEELE 625k though a crazy number since only Muschamp makes more it wouldn't have been outlandish since Monte made 1.2. I am pretty sure we didn't offer that since no way nohow could Clemson match that, IMPOSSIBLE!!! I see Clemson maybe going up to 550 + incentives such as a 6 pack of Crystals.

It really doesn't matter what I'm saying, what am i getting to...like others have said who ever is negotiating with these coaches needs to be fired!!! I god hope it isn't Jimmy Sexton Mother or something. This guy/gal is a complete idiot when it comes to negotiations and has botched or leaked so many that it's getting to the point of absurdity.

So, the 3 coaches that we go after and we pay them 525K-850k and not a PENNY less are SMART(give him and out clause if RICHT decides to go only, with 3 years minimum here) NIX(no out clause since we'll pay him a bit more)
WEATHERLY(he gets paid the least, but more than NC could counter offer)
 
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So Clemson is going to make Steele a coach in waiting? They are going to give that to a guy older than their current HC?

This thread is mind-bottling.
 
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I know all the coaching salaries, except at private colleges, it all public knowledge. Get a grip if you don't understand.
 
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:no: we know where the wealth is and it is not in your pockets. Its in big government. 2 mil here 1.2 mil there lets give this guy 875k because their couldn't possibly be a X NFL vol player who could possibly do the job. No, they never learned anything at UT or the NFL. college is big money:crazy:
 
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Georgia paid the cowboys d-line coach $750,000!!!! (he was making only $250K with the cowboys). How he's worth that kind of bling is a good question.
 
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VolsRule said:
Georgia paid the cowboys d-line coach $750,000!!!! (he was making only $250K with the cowboys). How he's worth that kind of bling is a good question.
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How much more "bling" does Georgia get if it makes a BCS bowl next season, as opposed to playing in Shreveport? Even if they only upgrade to the Outback or CFA bowl, the coach pays for himself and then some.

For that matter, we all know Richt is a good coach, but if UGA has a disappointing season, the rabid element in their boosters might cause him to lose his job. How much would the buyout set them back? Several million, and the next guy likely won't be any better.

But this guy might make their DL a little better and help UGA win an extra game or two.

You pay the guy what he wants. He's likely worth it.
 
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Look it's really simple CDD is young so, no matter who we hire as DC unless he is planning on retiring in the fairly near future is going to be picked up when a top ranked HC opens up. This is why Texas was correct in what they did with Muschamp. Texas is getting stronger every year and easier to recruit to since it coaching staff is very stable.

Smart and Nix are going to be HC in 3-5 years at top level schools or 1-2 in low teir like LA Tech where they couldn't even match our DC salaries so they would be willing to stick around a few years longer.

Weatherly we could probably keep for 4-6 years, but his defenses are going to be top 5 next year. The point is give these 3 guys the stars and let them go if that's what they want. The DC is IMPORTANT as hell but the school doesn't get the bad blow that losing an HC does. Our DC needs to be one of the best when he walks through that door.

I would rather hire someone I can barely afford knowing he he'll make me money from day one and leave to go to another company in 3 years and then hire someone to replace him just as qualified with a high salary than a so so who could make my company better in 4 years and then leave after 7. I just lost 4 years and accomplished nothing.
 
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jsc1973 said:
You clearly know very little about IPTAY.

Clemson can pay whatever Clemson wants, or needs, to pay.
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No they can't... They paid Steele 375,000 last year and he is their highest paid assistant. Swinney, their head coach, made a base salary of 800,000 I believe (but that does not count incentives or endorsements so I'm not sure about his total draw)... But no, Clemson can definitely NOT pay enough to match us. They don't have the budget. Their athletic budget is actually much smaller than South Carolina's if you look at the statistics.

Another thing of interest, is our athletic revenue last year was actually smaller than USCjr's. They were 8th in the nation and we were 13th. (if I remember correctly) Clemson wasn't in the top 25.
 
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We get approximately 15 million a year from the CBS/ESPN SEC deal. We can pay more than any other conference at this point. I say pay what it takes to get who we need/want and get it over with. Do not skimp right now.
 
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and we paid Monte 1.3 total (counting his now-totally-embarrassing "longevity" bonus of 300,000 on December 31st)... so 375,000 is a little bit more than 1/4 of that salary.
 
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I didn't know Sloth from Goonies was a UT fan?!?!?
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If we were going to pay a DC that much, Steele would be at UT right now. Also, if we have to pay that much for a DC, then Chaney is about to get a big raise.
 
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What does the lack of new rumors of DC mean today? Have we run through all we had on our list and now reassesing? Hope this does not lead to any desperate measures.
 
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and all of this talk of salary leads me to believe that we tried to get Steele on the cheap and he turned us down because of that... and that hamilton has realized the error of his ways with the exorbitant amount of money we spent last year on guys who left us out in the cold.

the first thing? not so good because it makes us look bad again

the second one? great because hopefully we won't get screwed again
 
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jsc1973 said:
You clearly know very little about IPTAY.

Clemson can pay whatever Clemson wants, or needs, to pay.
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I know about IPTAY since I was a grad student at Clemson and that means very little. IPTAY is nothing more than a lame moniker (I Pay Ten dollars A Year) for their donation/support association i.e. VASF at UT. Clemson can not match what we pay and that is a well known fact around the Upstate, and often times a complaint. I was there when Bowden was let go and my buddies knew deep down they would end up with Dabo b/c they couldn't afford to get a homerun hire in there. Their fan base is passionate but no where near ours and that takes a toll on their revenue stream.
 
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Doolittle 1720 said:
What does the lack of new rumors of DC mean today? Have we run through all we had on our list and now reassesing? Hope this does not lead to any desperate measures.
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According to wes rucker it means they are being tighter in the leaks.
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:D throwing money at a coach does not guarantee a win. IMO Al Wilson could be as good a LB coach as anyone. What is he doing now? These coaches started from somewhere. UT paid PF a butt load for what & 6,000,000 to leave. thats BS. People on this blog could fine and put together a staff that could compete and would be thrilled to coach for lots less.
 
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