Watching the tape in slow-mo...

[Dougie_D]

1. Will Grier should definitely be a Heisman candidate - some of his throws were PERFECT.
2. Majority of the time we called a corner blitz, we got burned. (2/3 of their TD's)
3. Do really have mediocre CB's? I kept seeing Abernathy and Flowers as CB's.
4. Our SAM LB seem to be on the line too much than I could handle.. it really bothered me for some reason.
5. I honestly couldn't see if Kongbo had many reps cause of the camera angle (maybe he wasn't a factor based on WV offense?)
6. When WV had 3 bunch WR set and we had our MLB alone they 90% called a run play (2 were draws)
7. I honestly can't tell if our defensive scheme just doesn't do well with offense that run 3-4 WR's, or it's our play calling.
8. I felt like we should've Blitzed more.
9. The play where it looked like we had a SPY was where their RB took a wheel route wide open for a TD.
10. Grier seem to know which WR to pass to in every situation. I don't know if we disguised our defense enough.
11. On the offensive side, our TE's need MAJOR work on their blocking. Wolf is better inside, but out in space it's cringe worthy.
12. Why did our OC not call any TE specific plays if our blocking isn't great?
13. At least to me, it felt like we called a lot of the same formation as if we were setting up for the BIG PLAY.
14. Everytime we used some sort of motion we gained yards.
15. This isn't a knock on Tim Jordan, but majority of his big runs were in a specific set where he had a blocker. ISO???
16. I don't think we called a single draw.
17. Helton seems to take awhile to figure out what works best, but somehow goes away from it.
18. Not sure why we didn't have JG roll out more? Or call specific run plays for him.
19. With our current WR roster, I feel like we should have more 3-4 WR sets
20. People complain about our O-line, but I think it's our TE's that are messing it up for us. We need to utilize them as receivers instead.

 

[Coug]

It's the first game of the season with a new coaching staff, an all new play book, essentially a new team. It's going to be a process and we're going to have to let it play out.

That being said, if we have trouble with ETSU this coming weekend THEN we should all really start worrying.

 

[B-17 Pilot]

1. Will Grier should definitely be a Heisman candidate - some of his throws were PERFECT.
2. Majority of the time we called a corner blitz, we got burned. (2/3 of their TD's)
3. Do really have mediocre CB's? I kept seeing Abernathy and Flowers as CB's.
4. Our SAM LB seem to be on the line too much than I could handle.. it really bothered me for some reason.
5. I honestly couldn't see if Kongbo had many reps cause of the camera angle (maybe he wasn't a factor based on WV offense?)
6. When WV had 3 bunch WR set and we had our MLB alone they 90% called a run play (2 were draws)
7. I honestly can't tell if our defensive scheme just doesn't do well with offense that run 3-4 WR's, or it's our play calling.
8. I felt like we should've Blitzed more.
9. The play where it looked like we had a SPY was where their RB took a wheel route wide open for a TD.
10. Grier seem to know which WR to pass to in every situation. I don't know if we disguised our defense enough.
11. On the offensive side, our TE's need MAJOR work on their blocking. Wolf is better inside, but out in space it's cringe worthy.
12. Why did our OC not call any TE specific plays if our blocking isn't great?
13. At least to me, it felt like we called a lot of the same formation as if we were setting up for the BIG PLAY.
14. Everytime we used some sort of motion we gained yards.
15. This isn't a knock on Tim Jordan, but majority of his big runs were in a specific set where he had a blocker. ISO???
16. I don't think we called a single draw.
17. Helton seems to take awhile to figure out what works best, but somehow goes away from it.
18. Not sure why we didn't have JG roll out more? Or call specific run plays for him.
19. With our current WR roster, I feel like we should have more 3-4 WR sets
20. People complain about our O-line, but I think it's our TE's that are messing it up for us. We need to utilize them as receivers instead.

This is the kind of post we need on here rather than those that just rant and complain. . .after ONE game against a very high caliber opponent!

 

[OneVolNation]

This is the kind of post we need on here rather than those that just rant and complain. . .after ONE game against a very high caliber opponent!

I agree. I'm always of the mindset of Don't burn a bridge without offering a detour. In other words, don't just criticize something without first affirming the good and then offering proposed solutions/suggestions for anything that appeared to be a problem. This post seemed to do that for the most part. Almost every issue we had looked fixable so there is a lot to like and be hopeful about going forward, imo.

 

[GetEmVols]

Don't look too much into it. We just didn't want to show our hand to Florida. This was a very vanilla playbook by design.

 

[walkenvol]

From my observation the center appeared to be a bigger blocking problem than TE. Even when the NT wasn't running free it seemed like he was getting penetration which disrupted a lot of what we were trying to do and ultimately resulted in Helton changing the play calling in an attempt to work around it.

 

[westennvol]

I watched in slow mo also, always some of it. What stuck out to me was the holding that was not being called.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I thought I was watching in slo mo as well but actually our corners are just that slow..

 

[Chilmonty]

Pretty difficult to take a 4-8 team and turn them into an 8-4 team in what....4 mths of actual practice?!?

This won't happen in One game or One Season for that matter! Patience is difficult but necessary for now!

JMO, Don't Taze me Bro!!

 

[HalfullVol]

Don't look too much into it. We just didn't want to show our hand to Florida. This was a very vanilla playbook by design.

I agree

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I watched in slow mo also, always some of it. What stuck out to me was the holding that was not being called.

Bingo. I gave PAVol crap for saying it was happening. After really paying attention, WV was holding A LOT.

 

[Remy]

1. Will Grier should definitely be a Heisman candidate - some of his throws were PERFECT.
2. Majority of the time we called a corner blitz, we got burned. (2/3 of their TD's)
3. Do really have mediocre CB's? I kept seeing Abernathy and Flowers as CB's.
4. Our SAM LB seem to be on the line too much than I could handle.. it really bothered me for some reason.
5. I honestly couldn't see if Kongbo had many reps cause of the camera angle (maybe he wasn't a factor based on WV offense?)
6. When WV had 3 bunch WR set and we had our MLB alone they 90% called a run play (2 were draws)
7. I honestly can't tell if our defensive scheme just doesn't do well with offense that run 3-4 WR's, or it's our play calling.
8. I felt like we should've Blitzed more.
9. The play where it looked like we had a SPY was where their RB took a wheel route wide open for a TD.
10. Grier seem to know which WR to pass to in every situation. I don't know if we disguised our defense enough.
11. On the offensive side, our TE's need MAJOR work on their blocking. Wolf is better inside, but out in space it's cringe worthy.
12. Why did our OC not call any TE specific plays if our blocking isn't great?
13. At least to me, it felt like we called a lot of the same formation as if we were setting up for the BIG PLAY.
14. Everytime we used some sort of motion we gained yards.
15. This isn't a knock on Tim Jordan, but majority of his big runs were in a specific set where he had a blocker. ISO???
16. I don't think we called a single draw.
17. Helton seems to take awhile to figure out what works best, but somehow goes away from it.
18. Not sure why we didn't have JG roll out more? Or call specific run plays for him.
19. With our current WR roster, I feel like we should have more 3-4 WR sets
20. People complain about our O-line, but I think it's our TE's that are messing it up for us. We need to utilize them as receivers instead.

I totally agree concerning our TEs blocking. I've seen more aggression from 2nd grade girls wearing dresses on playgrounds. Wolf was zero percent better than anyone we had out there. May as well stick another OL out there and be done with it. Push the dweeb TEs out there for passing plays only.l

 

[beachmaster]

Some of it, very obvious.

 

[OnlyGodForgives]

Watch it in 2X slo-mo while listening to Dark Side of the Moon. It syncs up perfectly!!

 

[JohnD13]

I watched in slow mo also, always some of it. What stuck out to me was the holding that was not being called.

LET IT GO...

 

[JohnD13]

1. Will Grier should definitely be a Heisman candidate - some of his throws were PERFECT.
2. Majority of the time we called a corner blitz, we got burned. (2/3 of their TD's)
3. Do really have mediocre CB's? I kept seeing Abernathy and Flowers as CB's.
4. Our SAM LB seem to be on the line too much than I could handle.. it really bothered me for some reason.
5. I honestly couldn't see if Kongbo had many reps cause of the camera angle (maybe he wasn't a factor based on WV offense?)
6. When WV had 3 bunch WR set and we had our MLB alone they 90% called a run play (2 were draws)
7. I honestly can't tell if our defensive scheme just doesn't do well with offense that run 3-4 WR's, or it's our play calling.
8. I felt like we should've Blitzed more.
9. The play where it looked like we had a SPY was where their RB took a wheel route wide open for a TD.
10. Grier seem to know which WR to pass to in every situation. I don't know if we disguised our defense enough.
11. On the offensive side, our TE's need MAJOR work on their blocking. Wolf is better inside, but out in space it's cringe worthy.
12. Why did our OC not call any TE specific plays if our blocking isn't great?
13. At least to me, it felt like we called a lot of the same formation as if we were setting up for the BIG PLAY.
14. Everytime we used some sort of motion we gained yards.
15. This isn't a knock on Tim Jordan, but majority of his big runs were in a specific set where he had a blocker. ISO???
16. I don't think we called a single draw.
17. Helton seems to take awhile to figure out what works best, but somehow goes away from it.
18. Not sure why we didn't have JG roll out more? Or call specific run plays for him.
19. With our current WR roster, I feel like we should have more 3-4 WR sets
20. People complain about our O-line, but I think it's our TE's that are messing it up for us. We need to utilize them as receivers instead.

Thanks coach

 

[ATLVols]

JG played really well from the pocket...very accurate overall. He missed a couple throws rolling out, so probably why we didn’t do it more.

I wanted us to use the TE more in passing game, but sounds like we couldn’t block without max protection.

 

[basspond]

Go back and slo-mo focus on Brandon Kennedy (55) starting with the first play. He got beat so bad the first few series it almost looked like he meant to miss the DT. I didn't slo-mo the second half so, I don't know if he figured anything out.

 

[FBtime]

Go back and slo-mo focus on Brandon Kennedy (55) starting with the first play. He got beat so bad the first few series it almost looked like he meant to miss the DT. I didn't slo-mo the second half so, I don't know if he figured anything out.

Spoiler alert...he did!

 

[tlester3672]

As I watched the game, while I was not happy with the scoreboard, I did see some positives. At least I thought so, until I watched every other team in the SEC and realized that we look outclassed in basically every facet of the game. We might have out punted some other teams, but our sample size was much larger than theirs. I honestly hope that WVU is just really good at making us look that bad.

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

Grier picked us apart like my dear old departed daddy would pick apart a fried up bluegill.

Dad 1926-1974

 

[VFL-82-JP]

16. I don't think we called a single draw.

Good analysis, Dougie, thanks for it. Not sure I agree with all of your final 5 or so points, but everything you said early on made a lot of sense.

One correction: Your #16 -- look again at the third offensive play of the game. That was a draw. It was just one that got badly blown up by WVU bringing 7 bodies. We were 3rd and 20, so might have anticipated they'd bring the house--more a bad play call than anything else. But it was a designed draw.

 

[Boca Vol]

If you watch it backwards you get some really weird audio & video....at least that's what they told me in Sunday school.

 

[savannahfan]

1. Will Grier should definitely be a Heisman candidate - some of his throws were PERFECT.
2. Majority of the time we called a corner blitz, we got burned. (2/3 of their TD's)
3. Do really have mediocre CB's? I kept seeing Abernathy and Flowers as CB's.
4. Our SAM LB seem to be on the line too much than I could handle.. it really bothered me for some reason.
5. I honestly couldn't see if Kongbo had many reps cause of the camera angle (maybe he wasn't a factor based on WV offense?)
6. When WV had 3 bunch WR set and we had our MLB alone they 90% called a run play (2 were draws)
7. I honestly can't tell if our defensive scheme just doesn't do well with offense that run 3-4 WR's, or it's our play calling.
8. I felt like we should've Blitzed more.
9. The play where it looked like we had a SPY was where their RB took a wheel route wide open for a TD.
10. Grier seem to know which WR to pass to in every situation. I don't know if we disguised our defense enough.
11. On the offensive side, our TE's need MAJOR work on their blocking. Wolf is better inside, but out in space it's cringe worthy.
12. Why did our OC not call any TE specific plays if our blocking isn't great?
13. At least to me, it felt like we called a lot of the same formation as if we were setting up for the BIG PLAY.
14. Everytime we used some sort of motion we gained yards.
15. This isn't a knock on Tim Jordan, but majority of his big runs were in a specific set where he had a blocker. ISO???
16. I don't think we called a single draw.
17. Helton seems to take awhile to figure out what works best, but somehow goes away from it.
18. Not sure why we didn't have JG roll out more? Or call specific run plays for him.
19. With our current WR roster, I feel like we should have more 3-4 WR sets
20. People complain about our O-line, but I think it's our TE's that are messing it up for us. We need to utilize them as receivers instead.

Responding to
5. Kongbo, sorry, just don't see him doing anymore or maybe not as much as he has done in the past.
10. We disguised them enough to confuse us!
11. Yea, their nose tackle was really beating our t-ends.
17. I think he trying to figure out what we can do period, then if will be best against a defense he sees.

 

[savannahfan]

I agree. I'm always of the mindset of Don't burn a bridge without offering a detour. In other words, don't just criticize something without first affirming the good and then offering proposed solutions/suggestions for anything that appeared to be a problem. This post seemed to do that for the most part. Almost every issue we had looked fixable so there is a lot to like and be hopeful about going forward, imo.

In most vocations when you have a problem of the magnitude we face, you usually call in an expert. Who are ours and where have they been. Maybe this staff given time will find these experts. For now they just have to keep working with what they've got.