Watching TCU....

#76
#76
6-1 start to the season is pretty good. They had Stanford on the ropes last year so it will be interesting to see how the rematch goes. I haven't seen them play enough to really grade them though.
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The Trojans were probably just really angry about losing at home a week earlier to a Washington team that went 7-6.

Of course that doesn't explain how they got blown out by 5-7 Oregon State later on. Or how they wet the bed against a crappy Notre Dame team either.

Kiffin probably just didn't have the horses to beat those teams though. Just like he'll be overmatched talent-wise against Stanford tomorrow. Too bad.
 
#77
#77
Coach Wilcox was the best rising DC in the business at the time but is having an adventure patching things up with what he got.

Coach Patterson would have the same issues given what he would've inherited.

we're good.. thanks.
 
#78
#78
Obviously Nick Saban sucks for losing to UAB in his first season at LSU and losing to Louisiana-Monroe in his first season at Alabama.
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#79
#79
Saban had one headscratcher of a loss in each of his first seasons at LSU and Alabama. Kiffin had three last year -- games which he lost, two of them at home, despite having an overwhelming talent superiority. How can you draw a line in the sand and say that tomorrow night is a game that Dooley absolutely should win, but then you're going to shrug your shoulders and excuse Kiffin's awful losses last year?
 
#80
#80
I can't help you if you're dumb enough to think South Carolina is among the 15 best teams in the country sans Lattimore.
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I can't help it if your to stupid to read the polls. Polls published after the Lattimore injury. Try again failure.
 
#81
#81
Derek Dooley has been a head coach for four and a half years. Total number of games he has lost as a favorite: zero.

Lane Kiffin has been a head coach for two and a half years. Number of games he has lost as a favorite: five.

EDIT: I forgot to include Kiffin's 20-game career in the NFL. He lost three more games as a favorite there too.
 
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#82
#82
Derek Dooley has been a head coach for four and a half years. Total number of games he has lost as a favorite: zero.

Lane Kiffin has been a head coach for two and a half years. Number of games he has lost as a favorite: five.

Oh oh. Too much truth in your post. Ya might want to back it down a bit for the kiffie lovers. Hate to see them get upset over simple things like facts.:good!:
 
#84
#84
I can't help you if you're dumb enough to think South Carolina is among the 15 best teams in the country sans Lattimore.
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I for one understand what your saying SGM, your point of veiw has been made..the only problem is, is that it's made over and over again.YES i am fed up and tired of seeing my team lose..but what are we going to do beside just talk about what we think should have been done? Just support the program we have right here and right now because as bad as it may be, it is what it is..there is a time and place for those issues to be brought up and during the middle of a tough season a fan should just root hard and support this team..i'm not in favor of many things going on in this program right now, but the people we have on the feild and side lines are what we have RIGHT NOW and andyou and i know it aint changing (if it does) until this season is over, so why bother? just support our Vols and wait until the off season when the things you want changed usually happen..time and place my friend, time and place
GO VOLS
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#85
#85
SGM=Layla. Even though Layla thinks Lane is a tool. I could be wrong. She likes my butter, that much I do know.
 
#88
#88
If you want me to stop "berating" Dooley, then maybe he should beat someone worth a damn for once.

Hint: tonight may be a chance to finally do that. On the other hand, if he loses to a South Carolina team at home that is down to their waterboys at RB, the criticism will only intensify, and not just from me.
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So.....should we win tonight, DD beats someone "worth a damn" but should we lose, we do so to a crappy team with "water boys at RB." Yeah that makes a ton of sense! Good thing we have our all-sec QB starting this game! Wait what our preseason water boy is starting at QB?
 
#89
#89
If you want me to stop "berating" Dooley, then maybe he should beat someone worth a damn for once.

Hint: tonight may be a chance to finally do that. On the other hand, if he loses to a South Carolina team at home that is down to their waterboys at RB, the criticism will only intensify, and not just from me.
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And who exactly has kiffin beat? A team with joe Cox as their starting qb and an average south Carolina team? He did it with two first round picks on defense, an NFL RB, an NFL te, an NFL wr, and a team that had experience. Who has kiffin lost to? Bad losses at home to UCLA and auburn. Raped on the road vs. a reeling Ole miss team. Then look at last year where he lost to Oregon St., Notre dame, and Washington. So he has had one decent win vs. Uga and then 6 bad losses, 7 counting a raping by VA tech where he had a month to prepare.
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#90
#90
Obviously Nick Saban sucks for losing to UAB in his first season at LSU and losing to Louisiana-Monroe in his first season at Alabama.
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Wait you laugh when that is used to defend Dooley but use it to defend kiffin. So you can't prove where he has anything that impressive on his resume but give him the benefit of the doubt for everything. You think he's cute just admit it.
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#91
#91
What point does SGM make? That kiffin isn't crap without his daddy? That's basically what you are saying. SGM's only point is to degrade our coach. Dissenting opinions are welcome but one must be able to substantiate. SGM does nothing but berate our coach and our team. He's nothing but a dull tool.

His original point in this thread was that Fulmer wouldn't have been fired to be replaced by Dooley. He is absolutely correct in that, IMO. I firmly believe it was Fulmer's time to go, but if you honestly believe the Vol fanbase wouldn't have lost their minds seeing a legendary coach replaced by LA Tech's coach, then you are crazy. Also, Kiffin's resume was greater than Dooley's. That is a fact. As I said, I despise Kiffin, to add to that, I like CDD, but I'm not going to close my eyes to the truth. Being coach of the Raiders> than being the coach of LA Tech. Being OC at USC when they were competing for NCs > than being Saban's TE coach. I'm not saying Kiffin is a better coach, but he DID have a greater resume. That is a fact.

SGM does like to bash Dooley and it does get old, but it doesn't change that he is occasionally right. In this case, he was. As for Lane being nothing without Monte, that is a point I was making. There were questions about Lane. Hammy tried to hedge his bets by getting Monte to come with Lane. I do not recall any Vol fans being upset at Monte Kiffin coming to be our DC. At the time, he was thought of as the best DC in the NFL.
 

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