Watch out for Natan Peterman in coming years

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volmandu said:
Amid all this loosing and negativity is lost what we have in our hands for future. Bray is good, Worley is efficient but from what I hear Peterman is supposed to be the next level QB. Most my friends in Florida are mad that schools in Florida let him go and didn't pursue him harder. I have seen his videos and he looks like a great QB in making. He still have some developing to do but I really hope he becomes what he is capable of. Next year it will be interesting to see Worley and Peterman fight it out if Bray goes pro !!


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I agree 100%. Peterman will be better than Bray. Atleast from a leadership and not embarrassing himself or the university standpoint. Just from everything that has been said about the kid he will be a great player, leader and ambassador for UT. He is supposed to be very intelligent and teachable and he obviously has talent. Not saying he is better than Bray or anything like that because he has never played a down, but nothing but good things have been said about his character and ability. Will be the perfect QB for Gruden's offense. That and D. Green pounding the rock and Croom, Harris, North, Blanc and whatever other top flight WR's we land.
 
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So say that we dont get a new coach next year....does dooley have to make a change at qb1 finally, i know bray gets the stats but so does romo and we know that romo aint taking the cowboys anywhere...
 
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memphisorange12 said:
So say that we dont get a new coach next year....does dooley have to make a change at qb1 finally, i know bray gets the stats but so does romo and we know that romo aint taking the cowboys anywhere...
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Bray has done enough to win this year if our defense was worth a flip. He better be figuring out something on the defensive side of the ball. Not sure if the problem is Sal or the scheme, but he needs to fix it or next year will be the same old crap.
 
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first of all, great tennis picture for profile.

next do you believe bray and dooley have a good relationship, i mean look at successful programs and the starter and coach usually are on same page to some extent, dooley has the title of being a gunslinger and what not, but that just means he doesnt think during plays, i rather have a signal caller who can read offenses and is smart(er).
 
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after watching the senior year highlights a lot to like good footwork and movement seems like he has a decent feel of the pocket...I saw on a few throws he went for the home run ball when he had checkdown options that were wide open they worked out but sec defenses are a whole new breed from high school so i'd like to see how he would handle that
 
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Wilhelm16 said:
Worley's performance the few times he's been on the field at UT, and comparing the high school film of them. Peterman created alot with his feet, and made some really good throws. Worley threw alot of short passes with broken tackles and tons of YAC yardage by Cordarrelle Patterson and Co. I'm not saying the kid hasn't earned a scholarship, but I don't see him beating out Peterman. Nothing wrong with having an experienced #2.
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I would always prefer a mobile qb, but I think it is way too early to judge either Worley or Peterman. The highlight reel only shows the good plays. I could make a highlight reel of my golf shots over the years, and you would think I should be on tour, instead of shooting 75's at a local golf course.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Not all of those points you listed were against SEC defenses. He also has had 4 drives that could have tied or taken the lead in the fourth quarter of games...he has 4 turnovers on those four drives. He will never be associated with being clutch.
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Tell me sir, would you have done better?
 
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My opinion, and not breaking down film or stats. A lot of our offence is with big plays so you get big numbers . I do think the defense has some real problems, but i have seen several games when the defense has stopped our opponent and have to return to the field in 4 plays. And never would I use the word Bray and clutch together. I don't think Bray is even in the top 15 qb's that have wore the orange.
 
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DL916 said:
I can't say the guy isn't clutch he has performed well against some big time teams. But you are right he has turned it over a lot too.

But get this stat prior to this year when scoring 30points or more UT was 103-4 this year they are 3-3. You can't except your offense to have to score 40+ to win a game and play a perfect game every week.

The defense is the problem.
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Yes, you can say Bray is not clutch. It's quite simple actually, just rewatch the fourth quarter of any game he has played against any decent opponent (top-25 or SEC) and you'll watch us lose every game. Lots of three-and-outs in fourth quarters and several picks on final drives.

"Clutch" is certainly one word you cannot associate with Tyler Bray.
 
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volmaniac18 said:
Yes, you can say Bray is not clutch. It's quite simple actually, just rewatch the fourth quarter of any game he has played against any decent opponent (top-25 or SEC) and you'll watch us lose every game. Lots of three-and-outs in fourth quarters and several picks on final drives.

"Clutch" is certainly one word you cannot associate with Tyler Bray.
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Well, in our last game against South Carolina, Tennessee had two fourth quarter drives for TDs. These were overshadowed of course because out defense can't stop anybody. When your defense in our five defeats are averaging giving up over 42 points per game, you don't win many games. You can put any QB you want to on the field and they won't succeed.
 
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He looks like a Jay Cutler type. He handles the ball just like Jay. We shall see if he is tough enough .
 
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sonofUT62 said:
I'm not including the Hail Mary's against UGA and USC. Two of the turnovers were fumbles. Look it up if you don't believe me. There is a substantial difference in his QB rating in the 4th vs the first three quarters.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. slow down spanky. No one in their right mind can blame the fumble in the SC game on Bray. That was an outstanding defensive play by Clowney. It is not like he had receivers running wide open all over the field. He was in the middle of throwing the ball and Clowney hit his arm. That is a team fumble. I don't even really get mad at the Oline that much about it because it was freaking Clowney and they pretty much shut him down except for 2 plays.

I honestly believe if we had last years defensive scheme we are at worst a 2 loss team heading to the SECCG and a BCS bowl. That being said I think the D will be massively improved next year once guys know the scheme. Our D is not bad because of scheme or playcalling it is bad because of player execution because they players are lost as heck. They won't be lost next season but we have to win out because this team needs the extra bowl practice.
 
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If Peterman is supposed to be the next level QB it will come after playing many games. As suspect as Bray is, Dooley would be starting him if he was the easy pick for the future. Peterman might be solid his senior year but he's not any better than Bray overall. Just like all the Bama fans with Richardson. "He's better than Ingram anyway so we didn't lose anything (when Ingram left)". Then why didn't he start?
 
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I think one point is being overlooked. Yes the defense hasn't been good most of the time and no one can dispute that. But let's also consider the following:

1. Our Offense has failed to make plays in the first half of most games except against UF and UGA.

2. Our QB has failed to make the big play when receivers were open( Bama, UGA, SC, etc)

3. Our defense has given the offense a chance in the second half of most games (UGA, SCAR, Miss ST)

4. Our QB when in the moments that matter the most does not make the big play.

5. Our QB makes our offensive coordinator makes our OC look bad a lot of times because he refuses to check down.

I can blame our loses on bad play by both sides of the ball, but you can't put it all on the defense. Just my opinion.
 
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pimo1 said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. slow down spanky. No one in their right mind can blame the fumble in the SC game on Bray. That was an outstanding defensive play by Clowney. It is not like he had receivers running wide open all over the field. He was in the middle of throwing the ball and Clowney hit his arm. That is a team fumble. I don't even really get mad at the Oline that much about it because it was freaking Clowney and they pretty much shut him down except for 2 plays.

I honestly believe if we had last years defensive scheme we are at worst a 2 loss team heading to the SECCG and a BCS bowl. That being said I think the D will be massively improved next year once guys know the scheme. Our D is not bad because of scheme or playcalling it is bad because of player execution because they players are lost as heck. They won't be lost next season but we have to win out because this team needs the extra bowl practice.
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So for the most part I agree with your post. But I disagree with the fumble not being Tyler Brays fault. He absolutely held the ball for too long in my opinion. Great QB's feel that pressure and also have great instinct and an internal clock. Gotta get the rock out of his hands and into the hands of the play makers quicker.
 
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Bray has been very good at putting up points when we're behind and no pressure. When it's late in the fourth and we NEED a score, when it's crunch time, what has he done? Zilch--nothing! Fumbled and thrown Ints. That was the case late against georgia, miss. state and south carolina--and he was bad all game long against bama. A lot of QBs put up numbers when the other team is comfortably ahead. He hasn't shown me anything in the clutch.
 
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hillsborovol said:
Well, in our last game against South Carolina, Tennessee had two fourth quarter drives for TDs. These were overshadowed of course because out defense can't stop anybody. When your defense in our five defeats are averaging giving up over 42 points per game, you don't win many games. You can put any QB you want to on the field and they won't succeed.
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Okay, it looks like I am going to have to drop a little Merriam-Webster knowledge...

"Clutch"


1: made or done in a crucial situation <a clutch hit>

2: successful in a crucial situation <a clutch pitcher>

I guess I was wrong. You can call Bray "clutch" all you want, it is just a matter of how long you would like to continue being wrong.
 
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As long as our savior "Peterman" sits back and pays attention to what's happening now, he can grow into a leader and UT QB!
GBO VFL!!
 
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Agreed. Gruden will groom him well.

volmandu said:
Amid all this loosing and negativity is lost what we have in our hands for future. Bray is good, Worley is efficient but from what I hear Peterman is supposed to be the next level QB. Most my friends in Florida are mad that schools in Florida let him go and didn't pursue him harder. I have seen his videos and he looks like a great QB in making. He still have some developing to do but I really hope he becomes what he is capable of. Next year it will be interesting to see Worley and Peterman fight it out if Bray goes pro !!
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