Washington Redskins name change thread

#83
#83
zjcvols said:
Great article. Thanks for posting Noch.
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:hi:

I thought it was a better perspective than anything I'd read on the topic. Point of view of an actual Native American who even acknowledges that it isn't a cut and dry issue, and that some even take pride in the name/image. Ultimately though he's right, fans of the team (of which I am one) of all races have decided that it's okay and not offensive so Native Americans should be fine with it. Why is that not their decision?
 
#84
#84
NochNoch said:
:hi:

I thought it was a better perspective than anything I'd read on the topic. Point of view of an actual Native American who even acknowledges that it isn't a cut and dry issue, and that some even take pride in the name/image. Ultimately though he's right, fans of the team (of which I am one) of all races have decided that it's okay and not offensive so Native Americans should be fine with it. Why is that not their decision?
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Is it that some Native Americans are fine with what some other Native Americans find offensive against Native Americans that puts your worries to rest?
 
#86
#86
/debate

Had no ideat about the Tottenham Spurs.

...neither Spurs fans in Britain nor Redskins fans in the U.S., uses these terms abusively. There’s absolutely no offensive intent. Indeed, these once-shocking words are denuded of their wickedness, emptied of their historic horribleness...

The desire to never feel offence is just sensitivity disguised as a right, emotional weakness dolled up as a “freedom from offence,” and it is used as a battering ram against real liberties that actually matter—particularly the liberties of speech and association.

The simple fact is this—neither the name of the Redskins nor the tag Yid Army has any racial intent. On the contrary, when fans holler “Come on you Redskins!” or “We are the Yids!,” they are making completely harmless, even positive statements, about themselves and the team they support. But that doesn’t matter to the PC brigade, which is now so cut adrift from the real world inhabited by the rest of us that it cares not one jot for the context in which words are spoken.
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Is "Redskins" Really an Offensive Name for a Football Team? - Reason.com
 
#87
#87
therealUT said:
Is it that some Native Americans are fine with what some other Native Americans find offensive against Native Americans that puts your worries to rest?
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I'm not sure where I expressed any worries with that statement, was just saying that I enjoyed the perspective and some of the points listed in the article.
 
#89
#89
NochNoch said:
I'm not sure where I expressed any worries with that statement, was just saying that I enjoyed the perspective and some of the points listed in the article.
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Should I restate the question? Or, do you understand what I was asking but refuse to answer?
 
#91
#91
therealUT said:
Should I restate the question? Or, do you understand what I was asking but refuse to answer?
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If you'd like to restate the question that doesn't include anything about "putting my worries to rest", sure, go ahead. With that phrase you incorrectly assumed I had any worries in the first place.
 
#96
#96
The Washington Braves would be an acceptable change. Of which by the way, was the original name.
 
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