Was Jackson's hit clean?

Did Janzen Jackson show all out effort to help win or did he make a "thuggish" play?

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#303
#303
I feel Jackson hit him with his shoulder but the real question for me is this: did the NC receiver come down in bounds? I haven't read where anyone questioned this. If it was his foot on the line, he would have been out of bounds, so what about his back when he contacted the ground?
 
#304
#304
If it had been a UNC player putting a hit like that on Moore or Jones everybody would be crying for the personal foul.

I'm fine with the hit but JJ has to know that if he launches himself like that he's probably gonna be flagged.
 
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#305
tnvl1 said:
I feel Jackson hit him with his shoulder but the real question for me is this: did the NC receiver come down in bounds? I haven't read where anyone questioned this. If it was his foot on the line, he would have been out of bounds, so what about his back when he contacted the ground?
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I wondered the same.
 
#307
#307
tnvl1 said:
I feel Jackson hit him with his shoulder but the real question for me is this: did the NC receiver come down in bounds? I haven't read where anyone questioned this. If it was his foot on the line, he would have been out of bounds, so what about his back when he contacted the ground?
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Pause the youtube video at 3:57. In the words of John Ward In-COM-PLETE!
 
#308
#308
turn3 said:
If it had been a UNC player putting a hit like that on Moore or Jones everybody would be crying for the personal foul.

I'm fine with the hit but JJ has to know that if he launches himself like that he's probably gonna be flagged.
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I doubt it, that was a clean hard hit, and I would say damn glad it wasn't me that took it.
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#312
#312
i thought in football you were suppose to hit people hard? Isn't that what you are taught when you first start playing? JJ hit the guy hard in the BACK...thats not dirty. I believe its called making a play????

Lets just get the football conferences together and decide that we are now going to two hand touch...
 
#314
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turn3 said:
If it had been a UNC player putting a hit like that on Moore or Jones everybody would be crying for the personal foul.

I'm fine with the hit but JJ has to know that if he launches himself like that he's probably gonna be flagged.
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Very well put! No matter what the game, if UNC had the missed PAT, the personal foul hit, the spike, etc.

Imagine if the scenario was flipped and a UNC guy laid that same hit and no foul was called, this board would be even more up in arms.
 
#315
#315
Jackson made a stupid play. He got beat on the route and tried to make up for it by killing the guy. It should have been a penalty. From everything I saw the pass was incomplete. The guy did not have control of the ball and several parts of his body were obviously out of bounds.
 
#316
#316
ddean1357 said:
Jackson made a stupid play. He got beat on the route and tried to make up for it by killing the guy. It should have been a penalty. From everything I saw the pass was incomplete. The guy did not have control of the ball and several parts of his body were obviously out of bounds.
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Looked to me like a well-timed hit with a lot of power behind it. It appears Ant Anderson was the one who got beat. And there is no rule about how hard one can hit.
 
#317
#317
kptvol said:
Looked to me like a well-timed hit with a lot of power behind it. It appears Ant Anderson was the one who got beat. And there is no rule about how hard one can hit.
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It's not how hard you hit, it's the fact that he launched himself. He planted both feet and flew at the guy with his arms by his side. It was a dumb play.
 
#318
#318
So it's either "amazing" or "thuggish?" Riiiight...

No, it wasn't clean. You're not allowed to leave the ground and launch your body into a receiver like that. Had Jackson stayed on the ground and just ran through the WR, then it would have been clean.

Thuggish though? No, he just made a mistake due to the speed of the game. I just wish Jackson would wrap up instead of thinking he's Ronnie Lott or Atwater.
 
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#319
#319
TitanHope said:
So it's either "amazing" or "thuggish?" Riiiight...

No, it wasn't clean. You're not allowed to leave the ground and launch your body into a receiver like that. Had Jackson stayed on the ground and just ran through the WR, then it would have been clean.

Thuggish though? No, he just made a mistake due to the speed of the game. I just wish Jackson would wrap up instead of thinking he's Ronnie Lott or Atwater.
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I've been saying that all year long.
 
#320
#320
Wrapping up doesn't knock the ball out in that situation. That was the right play to make, hit the guy hard in the square of the back and make him drop the ball. Thats what he did, and the refs called a foul and gave the receiver the catch anyway. Easily two blown calls.
 
#321
#321
OMG....What is so hard to explain???..He DID NOT make helmet-to-helmet contact...There is NO RULE about "launching" in the NCAA...The receiver was NOT DEFENSELESS...IT WAS A CLEAN HIT....PERIOD..Stop trying to make it anything other than a TERRIBLE CALL by the officials...PERIOD....It's football and you are supposed to hit players when they have the ball...Simple as that...
 
#322
#322
TnScooby said:
OMG....What is so hard to explain???..He DID NOT make helmet-to-helmet contact...There is NO RULE about "launching" in the NCAA...The receiver was NOT DEFENSELESS...IT WAS A CLEAN HIT....PERIOD..Stop trying to make it anything other than a TERRIBLE CALL by the officials...PERIOD....It's football and you are supposed to hit players when they have the ball...Simple as that...
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+1000

Finally somebody that's 1. Not a troll and 2. Has some sense. Thanks, glad I'm not the only one left
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#324
kptvol said:
Looked to me like a well-timed hit with a lot of power behind it. It appears Ant Anderson was the one who got beat. And there is no rule about how hard one can hit.
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Just wait...I think such a rule is coming.

Not soon, but eventually.
 
#325
#325
UTvol2011 said:
+1000

Finally somebody that's 1. Not a troll and 2. Has some sense. Thanks, glad I'm not the only one left
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I have cited it before but here it is. Look at the part about concentrating on the ball. The receiver was obviously concentrating on the ball. This is probably my least favorite rule ever, but none the less it is a rule.

PROTECTION OF DEFENSELESS PLAYERS—In 2008, the committee introduced a separate rule prohibiting initiating contact with and targeting a defenseless opponent (Rule 9-1-3).
The following are situations in which defenseless players are susceptible to serious injury:
• The quarterback moving down the line of scrimmage who has handed or pitched the ball to a teammate, and then makes no attempt to participate further in the play;
• The kicker who is in the act of kicking the ball, or who has not had a reasonable length of time to regain his balance after the kick;
• The passer who is in the act of throwing the ball, or who has not had a reasonable length of time to participate in the play again after releasing the ball;
• The pass receiver whose concentration is on the ball;
• The pass receiver who has clearly relaxed when the pass is no longer catchable;
• The kick receiver whose attention is on the downward flight of the ball; • The kick receiver who has just touched the ball; • The player who has relaxed once the ball has become dead; and • The player who is obviously out of the play.
 
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