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I originally was going to post this as reply in the Joker thread but thought it strayed to for off topic and I didn't want to clutter up that thread with posts not about it. Sorry this will be long.
Warner Bros. really has no idea what they want. They are so hung up on not looking like they are copying Disney that it hinders their whole film side of DC Comics.
It's amazing how different WB/DC is when it comes to animated films & TV shows to Disney/Marvel and the opposite.
Look at WB/DC animated films they are for the most part outstanding with some flaws and they are now doing them in PG-13 and even a few Rated R and the while they have some problems the CW/DC TV shows have been more entertaining than the Marvel TV shows like Agents of SHIELD, Inhumans, Agent Carter etc.. (not counting their streaming shows as they aren't technically TV shows) while on the other hand Disney/Marvel animated TV cartoons are geared more for kids and what few animated films they have released are just okay.
Yet Disney/Marvel has destroyed DC on the silver screen by sticking with known workings of their characters. On the other hand WB/DC has hired a rotating door of directors and writers and even actors and instead of them forcing them to stick with the source material they have allowed them to go here & there and put their own spin or take on the characters instead of sticking to the known source material.
Take for instance the as mentioned Jared Leto's Joker, the complete throw away of Jimmy Olson as a character in BvS, the look of Doomsday in BvS or the weird metal suit on the Flash in JL. Just look at them talking about Michael B. Jordan being in serious consideration to be the next Superman.
They took one of the greatest villains & (especially) story-lines Superman has ever had and shoe horned The Death of Superman story into BvS and that should have been saved for a couple of years down the road. Doomsday shouldn't have shown up until the 2nd or 3rd JL film and done it right leading to Superman films where you could have the Funeral for a Friend scenes with heroes at his funeral followed by the Reign of the Supermen with Steel, Superboy etc...
I really love the Marvel films, I do (although I haven't seen BP, Dr. Strg or A-M&theWSP) but at heart I have always been a DC guy they have IMO the greatest heroes and villains library in all of comics. They should be able to put out 8 to 10 films just focusing on Batman and his supporting characters (Nightwing, Robin(s), Batgirl(s), Batwoman, Birds of Prey w. Black Canary & Huntress, Jim Gordon & rogues gallery same with Superman and that's before you throw in WW, Flash(es), GL(s), AQM, JSA, TT, YS there is no reason Warner Bros. should have such hard time figuring out how to use their vast library of characters.
Currently they limit what characters they can and can't use on the CW/DC series because they don't think fans can differentiate actors/actresses playing the same characters. How they allowed Superman (and now Lois Lane) to be used on there I din't know.
Now that it looks like Marvel is coming to a close after (Avengers 4) with actors like RD Jr., Chris Evans & Chris Hemsworth those characters. Hopefully Warner Bros. can pull their head out of you know where and put one or two people in charge that knows these characters and cares about them and knows how they should be portrayed the way Disney did with Marvel and let them run DC Comics Film division.
On a side note since they have put Superman on hold for a while on the big screen (it seems) I'd love to see them do a CW Superman TV show on the CW with Tyler Hoechlin as Superman (I've loved his take on Clark) especially now that they have cast Bitsie Tulloch (Grimm) as Lois Lane for the CW Crossover.
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Warner Bros. really has no idea what they want. They are so hung up on not looking like they are copying Disney that it hinders their whole film side of DC Comics.
It's amazing how different WB/DC is when it comes to animated films & TV shows to Disney/Marvel and the opposite.
Look at WB/DC animated films they are for the most part outstanding with some flaws and they are now doing them in PG-13 and even a few Rated R and the while they have some problems the CW/DC TV shows have been more entertaining than the Marvel TV shows like Agents of SHIELD, Inhumans, Agent Carter etc.. (not counting their streaming shows as they aren't technically TV shows) while on the other hand Disney/Marvel animated TV cartoons are geared more for kids and what few animated films they have released are just okay.
Yet Disney/Marvel has destroyed DC on the silver screen by sticking with known workings of their characters. On the other hand WB/DC has hired a rotating door of directors and writers and even actors and instead of them forcing them to stick with the source material they have allowed them to go here & there and put their own spin or take on the characters instead of sticking to the known source material.
Take for instance the as mentioned Jared Leto's Joker, the complete throw away of Jimmy Olson as a character in BvS, the look of Doomsday in BvS or the weird metal suit on the Flash in JL. Just look at them talking about Michael B. Jordan being in serious consideration to be the next Superman.
They took one of the greatest villains & (especially) story-lines Superman has ever had and shoe horned The Death of Superman story into BvS and that should have been saved for a couple of years down the road. Doomsday shouldn't have shown up until the 2nd or 3rd JL film and done it right leading to Superman films where you could have the Funeral for a Friend scenes with heroes at his funeral followed by the Reign of the Supermen with Steel, Superboy etc...
I really love the Marvel films, I do (although I haven't seen BP, Dr. Strg or A-M&theWSP) but at heart I have always been a DC guy they have IMO the greatest heroes and villains library in all of comics. They should be able to put out 8 to 10 films just focusing on Batman and his supporting characters (Nightwing, Robin(s), Batgirl(s), Batwoman, Birds of Prey w. Black Canary & Huntress, Jim Gordon & rogues gallery same with Superman and that's before you throw in WW, Flash(es), GL(s), AQM, JSA, TT, YS there is no reason Warner Bros. should have such hard time figuring out how to use their vast library of characters.
Currently they limit what characters they can and can't use on the CW/DC series because they don't think fans can differentiate actors/actresses playing the same characters. How they allowed Superman (and now Lois Lane) to be used on there I din't know.
Now that it looks like Marvel is coming to a close after (Avengers 4) with actors like RD Jr., Chris Evans & Chris Hemsworth those characters. Hopefully Warner Bros. can pull their head out of you know where and put one or two people in charge that knows these characters and cares about them and knows how they should be portrayed the way Disney did with Marvel and let them run DC Comics Film division.
On a side note since they have put Superman on hold for a while on the big screen (it seems) I'd love to see them do a CW Superman TV show on the CW with Tyler Hoechlin as Superman (I've loved his take on Clark) especially now that they have cast Bitsie Tulloch (Grimm) as Lois Lane for the CW Crossover.
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