Warlick for fresh ideas in new coach.

[T-TownVol]

Yawn.....

 

[TNnative]

Elzy went from being promoted a year ago to getting sacked. There were clearly issues between the two woman--no doubt over recruiting, and probably over other things, and on top of it Elzy apparently was seeking other jobs, which surely annoyed/angered Warlick. If Elzy was not happy, that would explain our poor recruiting year, which in turn would explain why Warlick let her go. I would like to hear what Elzy has to say about the situation--THAT would make for good reading.

Let's say your daughter is a play-making HS phenom. And you as her daddy are helping her make a decision between offers from different schools.

Are you making judgments on who these programs recruiting coordinator are? Or are you more focused on the head coaches?

If it were my little girl? I know who I would focus on.

So, associating recruiting problems with Kyra? I see you throwing the bait, but this fish ain't biting.

 

[volbeast33]

Let's say your daughter is a play-making HS phenom. And you as her daddy are helping her make a decision between offers from different schools.

Are you making judgments on who these programs recruiting coordinator are? Or are you more focused on the head coaches?

If it were my little girl? I know who I would focus on.

So, associating recruiting problems with Kyra? I see you throwing the bait, but this fish ain't biting.

I don't think parents of stud ballplayers are as emotionally tied to Tennessee as we are. Holly definitely has room for improvement but to most that don't follow us on a daily basis.....they see a coach that has won 76% of her games and made 3 elite eights and one sweet sixteen. I have no idea how she is in front of a recruit and if she is failing there then will need to be replaced. I do know that if their was turmoil going on within the program then that can lead recruits in another direction. Holly is trying to make the changes she feels is necessary. If it doesn't work then we will be looking for a new coach. I am cheering that she grows and fixes our issues.

 

[Coach Jumper]

I don't think parents of stud ballplayers are as emotionally tied to Tennessee as we are. Holly definitely has room for improvement but to most that don't follow us on a daily basis.....they see a coach that has won 76% of her games and made 3 elite eights and one sweet sixteen. I have no idea how she is in front of a recruit and if she is failing there then will need to be replaced. I do know that if their was turmoil going on within the program then that can lead recruits in another direction. Holly is trying to make the changes she feels is necessary. If it doesn't work then we will be looking for a new coach. I am cheering that she grows and fixes our issues.

Well said VB... Some people are questioning some coaching aspects here, but no one is questioning the talent. . . Case in point, Basha. Even with her inconsistent performances, she is still playing pro ball. This tells me that talent scouts still know where talent is. Coaching notwithstanding.

 

[MDVolFan14]

Well said VB... Some people are questioning some coaching aspects here, but no one is questioning the talent. . . Case in point, Basha. Even with her inconsistent performances, she is still playing pro ball. This tells me that talent scouts still know where talent is. Coaching notwithstanding.

Coach J, yes they see talent but remember that the next level after College is normally based on potential. For Basha, even though she has been poorly coached here, she will get better through the maturation process, and she will have a little more freedom than with CHW and she will be forced to get better because the competition at that level is so much better. If not, it's Europe or a job.

But the problem here is beyond the recruiting IMHO. You still have to coach. Talent without coaching works in the rec and Church leagues but not in D-1 or Pro Ball.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Coach J, yes they see talent but remember that the next level after College is normally based on potential. For Basha, even though she has been poorly coached here, she will get better through the maturation process, and she will have a little more freedom than with CHW and she will be forced to get better because the competition at that level is so much better. If not, it's Europe or a job.

But the problem here is beyond the recruiting IMHO. You still have to coach. Talent without coaching works in the rec and Church leagues but not in D-1 or Pro Ball.

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it doesn't even work with UPWARDS BB!

I believe they have a good staff. What I firmly believe and cannot be diswayed about is that when they lost Pat Summit, they lost a head coach, that part was replaced. But they lost two other aspects that no one on this staff has shown me their capable of:

1) They lost the emotional leader. The Alpha coach. The coach that all of these supremely talented kids, paled in comparison to... When you coach a girl and she feels she is on your level, that is ok for certain types of player-personalities. You can be the "friend coach" and everything's' just marvy... But when it is a female alpha-athlete, they will only respect the desires and leadership of someone they feel is in some way superior to them. Someone who can knock them off their lofty perch, or, that same person can lift them out of the lowest of lows. . . .If you've never coached such an player, this is not something you can understand. Does the Alpha-influence have to lead. Nope. I have been told my entire tenure in coach, "Good leaders make great followers".

These girls come in here thinking they have learned everything the game of basketball can teach them. Heck, I have had middle-schoolers with that same facade.... All I had to do was show them one drill they couldn't immediately master, or had never seen, and I had a student that was immediately submissive. This is what prompted me to create my new methods and drills.

For instance the fast-break drill.

The 16U team I posted was full of dominant players. Only two were girly-girls. The rest were a handful! So I had to establish leadership immediately by showing them I knew more than they did.

-First I timed each girl to find the fastest one on dribble.
-Then I put five girls in the arc and told them to try to beat the dribbler down the court without ever dribbling the ball (They had no chance at this... I let them fail over and over).
-Then I set-up the fast-break and taught the girls how to run it.
-They beat the dribbler nearly every time. (Bad passing decisions factored into the losses)
-with each loss to the dribble I would point out where the loss happened. e.g. ( A player would pivot away from the angle and pass while moving backwards, instead of into the pass).
-With each turn it got better. Once we were proficient with mechanics of the FB, we started trying to beat our times.

I needed this team to follow me. They wouldn't do so, unless I proved worthy. And if that scares you, as a coach, get a new hobby!

2) With Pat they lost the "larger than life" influence. The one no one could stand toe to toe with. I met Pat during the 1996-97 SEC women's tournament in Chattanooga, at UTC (I still have the media guide to this day) . Part of my internship was to work the SEC women's tourney. That was many years ago, but I still remember how in awe I was of her. She was not normal, she was extra-ordinary. Self-assured, dominant and famous. ... AS full of myself as I could ever be, I still knew this I was not on par with this woman. She was larger than life. ... By being so, she took all of the pressure and focus off of her charges. So they were able to simply play the game.
That's what is missing now. A personality so bold, that it takes the focus off of the girls.

 

[56vol]

Coach J I totally agree with your assessment i have never heard it put quite that way. I too was at that SEC Womens tournament at UTC. I took my daughter to see Tennessee and Pat as a reward for Honor Roll. I will never forget when Pat walked into the Arena and I saw her for the first time I got goose bumps and wanted to stand and salute. I admired every time I saw her after that.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Coach J I totally agree with your assessment i have never heard it put quite that way. I too was at that SEC Womens tournament at UTC. I took my daughter to see Tennessee and Pat as a reward for Honor Roll. I will never forget when Pat walked into the Arena and I saw her for the first time I got goose bumps and wanted to stand and salute. I admired every time I saw her after that.

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Sorry I missed this one. I had to play big brother this evening. My sister needed some help.

I bet your child had an equal memory as you did. Events like that in a child's life can set the tone for that child's future...I met Chamique then and Kelly Jollie (Kyra was part of that group too) during a drill instructions/clinic... Years later I Saw Chamique when she was with the Atlanta Dream. I was one of the people who originally backed the WNBA team coming to Atlanta. I took a couple of my players to a gala there. They got to live a dream too... Pics with the original owner Kathy Betty , Chamique and then President Donna Orender.