War in Ukraine

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LouderVol said:
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do you believe this guy? YOU have to right? its a video.

I didn't do a deep dive on how he pronounces thing, so maybe he is a plant.

Me personally I don't believe him, but that's because I am consistent. and generally want proof before I just accept something someone says in a video. but what say you?
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We have to ask North Dallas about his accent. He's the forum's self-annointed expert on Russian language dialects. 😅
 
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LouderVol said:
@SquirrelOrange3

do you believe this guy? YOU have to right? its a video.

I didn't do a deep dive on how he pronounces thing, so maybe he is a plant.

Me personally I don't believe him, but that's because I am consistent. and generally want proof before I just accept something someone says in a video. but what say you?
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A Russian claiming the Russian army itself killed 100,000 Russian soldiers in a battle where the Russians have the Ukrainians surrounded is totally comparable to a Ukrainian soldier talking about men in his platoon getting killed by Russian ordnance in a battle that Ukraine lost after losing tens of thousands of soldiers. 😅

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A Russian claiming the Russian army itself killed 100,000 Russian soldiers in a battle where the Russians have the Ukrainians surrounded is totally comparable to a Ukrainian soldier talking about men in his platoon getting killed by Russian ordnance in a battle that Ukraine lost after losing tens of thousands of soldiers. 😅

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where did I compare it to Ukrainian losses? You are making stuff up to attempt to have an argument.
 
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### Key Quotes from Donald Trump on Ending the Russia-Ukraine War Quickly

Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed during his 2024 presidential campaign and beyond that he could end the Russia-Ukraine war rapidly—often specifying "within 24 hours," "before taking office," or "very quickly"—by leveraging his relationships with Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Below is a selection of direct quotes from speeches, rallies, interviews, and debates, organized chronologically. These are drawn from verified public statements.

- **March 4, 2023** (Speech to CPAC in National Harbor, Maryland): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, I will have the disastrous war between Russia and Ukraine settled. It will be settled quickly. Quickly. I will get the problem solved and I will get it solved in rapid order and it will take me no longer than one day. I know exactly what to say to each of them.”

- **March 25, 2023** (Rally in Waco, Texas): “And before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after I win the presidency, I will have the disastrous war between Russia and Ukraine settled.” And: “So when I say ‘end it,’ I’m going to get a settlement very quickly. And I know both people, and you can get it very, very quickly. You can only do it through the presidency, but you control the money coming in, coming out. You can get that. I will have that settlement done within 24 hours.”

- **May 10, 2023** (CNN town hall in Goffstown, New Hampshire): “If I’m president, I will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours.” And: “First, I’ll meet with Putin, I’ll meet with Zelensky. They both have weaknesses and they both have strengths. And within 24 hours that war will be settled. It will be over. It will be absolutely over.”

- **June 24, 2023** (Speech to Faith and Freedom Coalition in Washington, DC): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine totally settled. I’ll have it done in 24 hours. I say that, and I would do that. That’s easy compared to some of the things – I’d get that done in 24 hours. I know them both. I know them both. As the Bible says, ‘Blessed are the peacemakers.’ See that? And I will be your peacemaker. I was your peacemaker.”

- **July 1, 2023** (Rally in Pickens, South Carolina): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after I win the presidency because of you, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine settled; I’ll get it done in 24 hours. I know them both very well, Zelensky and Putin. I’ll get it solved very, very quickly.”

- **July 15, 2023** (Speech to Turning Point event in West Palm Beach, Florida): “Shortly after we win the presidency, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine totally settled. We’ll get that settled very quickly.” And: “But this conflict has to end. And when I’m president, it will be done very quickly, I believe in 24 hours.”

- **January 17, 2024** (Rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire): “Upon taking office, I will also restore peace through strength. I will get that war in Ukraine settled so fast.” And: “I will get that straightened out very fast, very early. I think – I think I’ll get that finished when I’m president-elect. I think I’ll get it long, long before, long before I take the office.”

- **June 27, 2024** (Presidential debate against Joe Biden): “I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky as president-elect before I take office on January 20. I’ll have that war settled. People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly. And I will get it settled, and I’ll get it settled fast before I take office.”

These quotes highlight a consistent theme in Trump's rhetoric, emphasizing speed and ease due to personal diplomacy. For a full compilation of over 50 instances, refer to the CNN fact-check analysis.

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Lest we ever forget...

### Key Quotes from Donald Trump on Ending the Russia-Ukraine War Quickly

Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed during his 2024 presidential campaign and beyond that he could end the Russia-Ukraine war rapidly—often specifying "within 24 hours," "before taking office," or "very quickly"—by leveraging his relationships with Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Below is a selection of direct quotes from speeches, rallies, interviews, and debates, organized chronologically. These are drawn from verified public statements.

- **March 4, 2023** (Speech to CPAC in National Harbor, Maryland): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, I will have the disastrous war between Russia and Ukraine settled. It will be settled quickly. Quickly. I will get the problem solved and I will get it solved in rapid order and it will take me no longer than one day. I know exactly what to say to each of them.”

- **March 25, 2023** (Rally in Waco, Texas): “And before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after I win the presidency, I will have the disastrous war between Russia and Ukraine settled.” And: “So when I say ‘end it,’ I’m going to get a settlement very quickly. And I know both people, and you can get it very, very quickly. You can only do it through the presidency, but you control the money coming in, coming out. You can get that. I will have that settlement done within 24 hours.”

- **May 10, 2023** (CNN town hall in Goffstown, New Hampshire): “If I’m president, I will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours.” And: “First, I’ll meet with Putin, I’ll meet with Zelensky. They both have weaknesses and they both have strengths. And within 24 hours that war will be settled. It will be over. It will be absolutely over.”

- **June 24, 2023** (Speech to Faith and Freedom Coalition in Washington, DC): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine totally settled. I’ll have it done in 24 hours. I say that, and I would do that. That’s easy compared to some of the things – I’d get that done in 24 hours. I know them both. I know them both. As the Bible says, ‘Blessed are the peacemakers.’ See that? And I will be your peacemaker. I was your peacemaker.”

- **July 1, 2023** (Rally in Pickens, South Carolina): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after I win the presidency because of you, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine settled; I’ll get it done in 24 hours. I know them both very well, Zelensky and Putin. I’ll get it solved very, very quickly.”

- **July 15, 2023** (Speech to Turning Point event in West Palm Beach, Florida): “Shortly after we win the presidency, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine totally settled. We’ll get that settled very quickly.” And: “But this conflict has to end. And when I’m president, it will be done very quickly, I believe in 24 hours.”

- **January 17, 2024** (Rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire): “Upon taking office, I will also restore peace through strength. I will get that war in Ukraine settled so fast.” And: “I will get that straightened out very fast, very early. I think – I think I’ll get that finished when I’m president-elect. I think I’ll get it long, long before, long before I take the office.”

- **June 27, 2024** (Presidential debate against Joe Biden): “I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky as president-elect before I take office on January 20. I’ll have that war settled. People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly. And I will get it settled, and I’ll get it settled fast before I take office.”

These quotes highlight a consistent theme in Trump's rhetoric, emphasizing speed and ease due to personal diplomacy. For a full compilation of over 50 instances, refer to the CNN fact-check analysis.

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He could more or less end it in one day, but you would be crying about that as well.

But continue to post because its still entertaining to watch.
 
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MontyPython said:
Lest we ever forget...

### Key Quotes from Donald Trump on Ending the Russia-Ukraine War Quickly

Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed during his 2024 presidential campaign and beyond that he could end the Russia-Ukraine war rapidly—often specifying "within 24 hours," "before taking office," or "very quickly"—by leveraging his relationships with Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Below is a selection of direct quotes from speeches, rallies, interviews, and debates, organized chronologically. These are drawn from verified public statements.

- **March 4, 2023** (Speech to CPAC in National Harbor, Maryland): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, I will have the disastrous war between Russia and Ukraine settled. It will be settled quickly. Quickly. I will get the problem solved and I will get it solved in rapid order and it will take me no longer than one day. I know exactly what to say to each of them.”

- **March 25, 2023** (Rally in Waco, Texas): “And before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after I win the presidency, I will have the disastrous war between Russia and Ukraine settled.” And: “So when I say ‘end it,’ I’m going to get a settlement very quickly. And I know both people, and you can get it very, very quickly. You can only do it through the presidency, but you control the money coming in, coming out. You can get that. I will have that settlement done within 24 hours.”

- **May 10, 2023** (CNN town hall in Goffstown, New Hampshire): “If I’m president, I will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours.” And: “First, I’ll meet with Putin, I’ll meet with Zelensky. They both have weaknesses and they both have strengths. And within 24 hours that war will be settled. It will be over. It will be absolutely over.”

- **June 24, 2023** (Speech to Faith and Freedom Coalition in Washington, DC): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine totally settled. I’ll have it done in 24 hours. I say that, and I would do that. That’s easy compared to some of the things – I’d get that done in 24 hours. I know them both. I know them both. As the Bible says, ‘Blessed are the peacemakers.’ See that? And I will be your peacemaker. I was your peacemaker.”

- **July 1, 2023** (Rally in Pickens, South Carolina): “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after I win the presidency because of you, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine settled; I’ll get it done in 24 hours. I know them both very well, Zelensky and Putin. I’ll get it solved very, very quickly.”

- **July 15, 2023** (Speech to Turning Point event in West Palm Beach, Florida): “Shortly after we win the presidency, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine totally settled. We’ll get that settled very quickly.” And: “But this conflict has to end. And when I’m president, it will be done very quickly, I believe in 24 hours.”

- **January 17, 2024** (Rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire): “Upon taking office, I will also restore peace through strength. I will get that war in Ukraine settled so fast.” And: “I will get that straightened out very fast, very early. I think – I think I’ll get that finished when I’m president-elect. I think I’ll get it long, long before, long before I take the office.”

- **June 27, 2024** (Presidential debate against Joe Biden): “I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky as president-elect before I take office on January 20. I’ll have that war settled. People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly. And I will get it settled, and I’ll get it settled fast before I take office.”

These quotes highlight a consistent theme in Trump's rhetoric, emphasizing speed and ease due to personal diplomacy. For a full compilation of over 50 instances, refer to the CNN fact-check analysis.

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Obama said that he would close Gitmo within minutes of being sworn in but here we are 17 years later.

Believing campaign rhetoric is a “you” problem, not the other way around.
 
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Obama said that he would close Gitmo within minutes of being sworn in but here we are 17 years later.

Believing campaign rhetoric is a “you” problem, not the other way around.
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I believe NOTHING that the Orange Menace says.

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Yet the moron MAGA chumps do apparently.
 
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LouderVol said:
where did I compare it to Ukrainian losses? You are making stuff up to attempt to have an argument.
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A Ukrainian soldier saying he saw men of his platoon die in the battle of Bakhmut: very plausible as it was a very common experience. Men in both armies saw men in their units die horrible deaths. No one can say that didn't happen. Well, let me correct myself: no one in the world aside from you and North Dallas can say it didn't happen. 😅

A Russian saying he saw 100,000 men of the Russian forces killed by Russian forces: laughable. No soldier in either army saw 100,000 men of their own army killed by their own army.
 
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This war has seemingly fallen off the table in the media compared to the past. Is it because the money laundering effort has dried up? This may be a great example of the power of the narrative, and if so, we can expect it to reappear when politically appropriate.
 
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Bags of cash and a gold toilet: the corruption crisis engulfing Zelenskyy’s government

Senior Ukrainians are accused of taking kickbacks from projects to defend energy plants in wartime, prompting a wave of public anger
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Billion dollars on the table ...

"I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. He got fired."
 
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Billion dollars on the table ...

"I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. He got fired."
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This schiit had been going on in that God forsaken place for over a decade, while the war mongers empowered by the idiots with Ukraine flag emojis pretend that big bad Russia wants to conquer the world. Enough already.
 
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This schiit had been going on in that God forsaken place for over a decade, while the war mongers empowered by the idiots with Ukraine flag emojis pretend that big bad Russia wants to conquer the world. Enough already.
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Yep, the Ukrainians learned from the very best on how to be corrupt the Russians. The two most corrupt countries on earth, and that's saying something when you take corruption into account in our own country.
 
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Yep, the Ukrainians learned from the very best on how to be corrupt the Russians. The two most corrupt countries on earth, and that's saying something when you take corruption into account in our own country.
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The Russians can't hold a candle to the corruption in this country. We wrote the damn book. How do you think the entire Ukraine mess was started?
 
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