War in Ukraine

[tvolsfan]

"This would have never happened under Trump!" -- Typical VN .

I’m sure this latest two week threat will be the real one.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[BeardedVol]

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It's truly hard to fathom a person who has the entire United States' intelligence apparatus at their fingertips, still being this much of a complete and total moron on a subject like this.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[KB5252]

They can take it up with their leader when he joins them in hell. They weren't conscripted. They signed a contract with mother Russia.

This is where you are wrong. It's a corrupt country and the poor are conscripted while the wealthy avoid service.

 

[BeardedVol]

This is where you are wrong. It's a corrupt country and the poor are conscripted while the wealthy avoid service.

It's not 'conscripts' that are signing up to die in Ukraine for large signing bonuses.

Russia is offering a $22,000 bonus to new military recruits, signaling its desperation to offset losses in Ukraine

Russian authorities are offering lucrative contracts to try and offset the high death and injury rate that troops are suffering in Ukraine.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Russian Kids Learn to Throw Grenades, Carry Rifles in training to be next generation of Putin’s Military​

Baby-faced Russian children as young as 8 have been taught how to throw hand grenades and carry rifles at a bizarre summer camp designed to train up the next generation of Vladimir Putin’s military.

The twisted exercises, supervised by soldiers who have fought in Russia’s war in Ukraine, saw young children given real rifles or convincing replicas at a camp in the Rostov region, close to the Ukrainian border.

“We threw hand grenades and fired dummy shots,” 8-year-old participant Ivan Glushchenko said excitedly, when asked what his favorite part had been during the camp, which is open to both boys and girls.

Russian kids learn to throw grenades, carry rifles in training to be next generation of Putin’s military

The twisted exercises, supervised by soldiers who have fought in Russia’s war in Ukraine, saw kids given real rifles or convincing replicas at a camp near the Ukrainian border.

nypost.com

 

[KB5252]

It's not 'conscripts' that are signing up to die in Ukraine for large signing bonuses.

Russia is offering a $22,000 bonus to new military recruits, signaling its desperation to offset losses in Ukraine

Russian authorities are offering lucrative contracts to try and offset the high death and injury rate that troops are suffering in Ukraine.

www.businessinsider.com

Two things can be true at the same time.

It's been noted, not even an isolated incident, of forced conscription and many being tricked or forced into Ukraine to fight and die.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Russia trying to Recruit ‘last chance’ Soldiers With HIV and STDs with Promises of Free Healthcare If they Fight Against Ukraine​

Russian President Vladimir Putin is actively recruiting Ukrainian civilians infected with HIV, hepatitis, syphilis and other diseases from occupied regions in a desperate attempt to feed his war machine — with sick recruitment ads promising life-saving healthcare to the sick as their “last chance.”

Reports of HIV infections in the Russian military have skyrocketed since it invaded Ukraine in 2022, with cases increasing by 13 times within the first year of the war and then 20 times by the end of 2023, a recent report from Carnegie Politika found.

And while many of those are coming from the Russian home front — where the floundering military has been dredging for bodies to throw into the meatgrinder — Putin appears to also be withholding healthcare access in occupied Ukrainian territories to pressure desperately sick civilians into turning-coat and joining his army, according to reports.


Ukraine’s war-torn Donetsk and Luhansk regions have been suffering a health crisis since Russia took over.

“This is your last chance,” read signs at Russian military recruitment centers in occupied Ukraine — signs which are actively targeting HIV patients, the Kyiv Independent reported.

HIV and hepatitis have neared epidemic levels in Ukraine’s war-torn Donetsk and Luhansk regions, but the Russian occupiers have restricted healthcare access to Russian passport holders only — and appear to be leveraging that to force Ukrainian civilians into submitting to Russian rule.

But Putin apparently has no plans to make good on the promise of treatment — once Ukrainians sign up they receive little healthcare, and are quickly sent to the front line assault units where they face a high chance of being killed.


Ukrainian soldiers in Kyiv. Some Ukrainians in Russian-occupied territories have been compelled to join the enemy.

And Yastrebova thinks it’s all a part of the wider tactic to deal with disease in occupied Ukraine by simply tossing the infected into the line of fire.


A captured Russian soldier with wrist bands denoting HIV and hepatitis infections. Such finds are on the rise.

Russia trying to recruit ‘last chance’ soldiers with HIV and STDs with promises of free healthcare if they fight against Ukraine

Reports of HIV infections in the Russian military have skyrocketed since it invaded Ukraine in 2022, with cases increasing by 13 times within the first year of the war and then 20 times by the end …

nypost.com

 

[BeardedVol]

I wonder how many weeks Trump will give Putin this time...

 

[hog88]

I wonder how many weeks Trump will give Putin this time...

You've still not answered the question. What do you want Trump to do?

 

[BeardedVol]

You've still not answered the question. What do you want Trump to do?

I've stated numerous times in this thread, numerous times, the sanctions that I believe need to be leveled against Russia, and the level of aid that I would provide Ukraine.

Search function is your friend.

 

[hog88]

I've stated numerous times in this thread, numerous times, the sanctions that I believe need to be leveled against Russia, and the level of aid that I would provide Ukraine.

Search function is your friend.

What sanctions? Sanction who, what? Be specific please.
What level of aid would you have him provide Ukraine?

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Peradox1K]

Do you post this everyday?

 

[BeardedVol]

Staggering incompetence.

 

[hog88]

Staggering incompetence.

What sanctions? Sanction who, what? Be specific please.
What level of aid would you have him provide Ukraine?

You must have missed this.

 

[BeardedVol]

You must have missed this.

You're still struggling with the search feature?

 

[BeardedVol]

 

[Septic]

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Does this clown think Ukraine started it?

I know it sounds like a silly question but every time he opens his mouth he sounds like he is being briefed on the chain of events that got us here by the Kremlin.

He can't really be this misinformed as the POTUS, can he?

 

[volbound1700]

Publicly, White House is really defending Putin at an embarrassing level but privately, Ukraine is striking deeper into Russia at its infrastructure than ever before and is getting more support.

Not a big Trump fan but I will state that one thing that I learned about him (notably in the Kamala election recently) is to not underestimate him and he often puts on a show in public but has ulterior motives.

 

[Septic]

You've still not answered the question. What do you want Trump to do?

I think it'd be helpful if he stopped dick teasing aid and support. Being vague about supporting Ukraine emboldens Putin.

Why should Putin consider stopping his attacks if Trump keeps giving off vibes that he's going to shut down support for Ukraine every other day.

Art of the deal, my ass.

 

[n_huffhines]

Does this clown think Ukraine started it?

I know it sounds like a silly question but every time he opens his mouth he sounds like he is being briefed on the chain of events that got us here by the Kremlin.

He can't really be this misinformed as the POTUS, can he?

He has said something like this a few times where it appears he doesn't know this started with an invasion.

 

[volbound1700]

Does this clown think Ukraine started it?

I know it sounds like a silly question but every time he opens his mouth he sounds like he is being briefed on the chain of events that got us here by the Kremlin.

He can't really be this misinformed as the POTUS, can he?

He has always been this way. My hope is that he is only doing this in public to try to help with the negotiation but is really helping Zelensky in private.

I had more patience with this 3-4 months ago but I think it is a waste of time now, Putin doesn't want peace. It is only a matter of time before Ukraine will fall.