War in Ukraine

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Orange. said:
What? The entire war is run out of the U.S. and NATO.
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the 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back. the cold war is over dude, move on. wasn't that your whole point? funny how one sided, Russian, you are being yet again.

there is a big difference between causation and correlation here. US/NATO IS involved weapons and intel. the US/NATO was never a threat to the USSR Russia. Russia chose war here, not the west, and not Ukraine.

Putin is running at LEAST as much bs as any western media is. its all a cover to make him look like not look like a complete failure. Its a lot easier to explain to the rest of the bully's why the pip-squeak next door hasn't thrown in the towel when you explain to everyone that the black belt across town has trained him and taking some swings for him. doesn't make any of it true.
 
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President Donald Trump made big news Monday, shortening his 50-day deadline for Russia to get serious about peace in Ukraine to “about 10 to 12 days from now.”

“There’s no reason in waiting,” Trump said. “I want to be generous, but we just don’t see any progress being made.”

Gotta love hard deadlines like "10 or 12 days" from now... and maybe he'll impose secondary sanctions... or maybe he won't. Maybe Donnie will do anything if it gets everyone to stop talking about his former best buddy Jeffery Epstein.
 
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MontyPython said:
President Donald Trump made big news Monday, shortening his 50-day deadline for Russia to get serious about peace in Ukraine to “about 10 to 12 days from now.”

“There’s no reason in waiting,” Trump said. “I want to be generous, but we just don’t see any progress being made.”

Gotta love hard deadlines like "10 or 12 days" from now... and maybe he'll impose secondary sanctions... or maybe he won't. Maybe Donnie will do anything if it gets everyone to stop talking about his former best buddy Jeffery Epstein.
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LouderVol said:
the 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back. the cold war is over dude, move on. wasn't that your whole point? funny how one sided, Russian, you are being yet again.

there is a big difference between causation and correlation here. US/NATO IS involved weapons and intel. the US/NATO was never a threat to the USSR Russia. Russia chose war here, not the west, and not Ukraine.

Putin is running at LEAST as much bs as any western media is. its all a cover to make him look like not look like a complete failure. Its a lot easier to explain to the rest of the bully's why the pip-squeak next door hasn't thrown in the towel when you explain to everyone that the black belt across town has trained him and taking some swings for him. doesn't make any of it true.
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Well, then, discontinue our intel for a couple of months and see how Ukraine does. We could just pack up and go home.

I’m just telling the simple truth. Nothing “Russia Russia Russia” about it.

That you think NATO is not involved is bizarre.
 
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LouderVol said:
the 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back. the cold war is over dude, move on. wasn't that your whole point? funny how one sided, Russian, you are being yet again.

there is a big difference between causation and correlation here. US/NATO IS involved weapons and intel. the US/NATO was never a threat to the USSR Russia. Russia chose war here, not the west, and not Ukraine.

Putin is running at LEAST as much bs as any western media is. its all a cover to make him look like not look like a complete failure. Its a lot easier to explain to the rest of the bully's why the pip-squeak next door hasn't thrown in the towel when you explain to everyone that the black belt across town has trained him and taking some swings for him. doesn't make any of it true.
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Orange. said:
Well, then, discontinue our intel for a couple of months and see how Ukraine does. We could just pack up and go home.

I’m just telling the simple truth. Nothing “Russia Russia Russia” about it.

That you think NATO is not involved is bizarre.
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as usual you present a one sided response designed to ignore what I actually said while inserting your own BS.

at this point I don't think our intel is as critical as it once was. Ukraine has shown the ability to launch several large scale attacks without our involvement.
 
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Orange. said:
Well, then, discontinue our intel for a couple of months and see how Ukraine does. We could just pack up and go home.

I’m just telling the simple truth. Nothing “Russia Russia Russia” about it.

That you think NATO is not involved is bizarre.
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The U.S. has been at war with Russia since before WW2 was over. The early 90s stuff was a lie, matter of fact the U.S. military called this out in Congressional testimony in the late 90s and said what the result of U.S.'s behavior would be if continued - see today. The U.S. military predicted in general the result as to the strategy which is why the situation is what it is. Instead of people admitting to it, and moving on - we have a very few nutjobs left that continue to haul large buckets of water to keep their own delusions together. There isn't much you can do for them.

Hiroo Onoda - Wikipedia

At least this guy was willing to put it out there for his delusions, the ones on this board not so much. We have the toughest internet warriors on the planet though.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The U.S. has been at war with Russia since before WW2 was over. The early 90s stuff was a lie, matter of fact the U.S. military called this out in Congressional testimony in the late 90s and said what the result of U.S.'s behavior would be if continued - see today. The U.S. military predicted in general the result as to the strategy which is why the situation is what it is. Instead of people admitting to it, and moving on - we have a very few nutjobs left that continue to haul large buckets of water to keep their own delusions together. There isn't much you can do for them.

Hiroo Onoda - Wikipedia

At least this guy was willing to put it out there for his delusions, the ones on this board not so much. We have the toughest internet warriors on the planet though.
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Russia only currently exists because of the good will of the United States in the 90s. If we had wanted to to break Russia up, we could have just denied them access to IMF funds, and not sent them aid directly, which we did to the tune of billions.

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Russia and the International Financial Institutions

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BeardedVol said:
Russia only currently exists because of the good will of the United States in the 90s. If we had wanted to to break Russia up, we could have just denied them access to IMF funds, and not sent them aid directly, which we did to the tune of billions.

www.everycrsreport.com

U.S. Assistance to the Former Soviet Union 1991-2001: A History of Administration and Congressional Action

The future of the 12 successor states of the former Soviet Union is a major concern of U.S. foreign policy and congressional attention,...
www.everycrsreport.com www.everycrsreport.com

Russia and the International Financial Institutions

The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace generates strategic ideas and independent analysis, supports diplomacy, and trains the next generation of scholar-practitioners to help countries and institutions take on the most difficult global problems and advance peace.
carnegieendowment.org carnegieendowment.org
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Well, if that was the case North Korea shouldn't exist either. Yes, the United States has been spreading bunches of good will around the world for last 30 years.

You're insane, nothing I can do about it.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Well, if that was the case North Korea shouldn't exist either. Yes, the United States has been spreading bunches of good will around the world for last 30 years.

You're insane, nothing I can do about it.
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It's very telling that you're response to being confronted with US/IMF aid to Russian in the 90s is to throw out a non sequitur statement about 'North Korea' and an ad hominem attack, rather than acknowledge historical reality.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's very telling that you're response to being confronted with US/IMF aid to Russian in the 90s is to throw out a non sequitur statement about 'North Korea' and an ad hominem attack, rather than acknowledge historical reality.
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You saying something that didn't happen which you are speculating could have happen is not reality. Just like most of what you write on this forum - complete nonsense. Next up, the U.S. could have won the Afghanistan war, if only we had wanted to. You are doing nothing but rewriting history. The U.S. never stopped its war with Russia, this is documented in the U.S. Congressional record - that's the reality.

The reality is you are insane, and the reality is - I can't help you.

Now go sign up internet tough guy, join the brave. https://www.ildu.com.ua/
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You saying something that didn't happen which you are speculating could have happen is not reality. Just like most of what you write on this forum - complete nonsense. Next up, the U.S. could have won the Afghanistan war, if only we had wanted to. You are doing nothing but rewriting history. The U.S. never stopped its war with Russia, this is documented in the U.S. Congressional record - that's the reality.

The reality is you are insane, and the reality is - I can't help you.

Now go sign up internet tough guy, join the brave. https://www.ildu.com.ua/
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Trying to exist in a made up reality must be very challenging.
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BeardedVol said:
Trying to exist in a made up reality must be very challenging.
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So? See Congressional Record, they were doing one thing in public and other things in private. Really what they wanted to do to Russia was what they did to the Ukraine soft coup. Either way, your reality is purely in your head. The real reality is taking place and you are hiding behind a keyboard. Pure mental disease.

My take is the good guys always win - give it some more time and you will see who the good guys are.
 
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