War in Ukraine

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LouderVol said:
A few weeks ago you were saying Ukraine was weeks away from total collapse. Yet here we all are.
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Yet....here we all are, watching them collapse. You realize the loss of territory in Donbas is accelerating with 4 major cities about to fall?
 
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MontyPython said:
  • ā€œThere could be regime change in Russia. The intense pressure that western sanctions are beginning to put on the Russian economy combined with battlefield setbacks could cause ... popular unrest, elite infighting,ā€ he added.
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You dont actually believe that do you? You may WANT to believe it, but you know that is BS...right?
 
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volgr said:
Yet....here we all are, watching them collapse. You realize the loss of territory in Donbas is accelerating with 4 major cities about to fall?
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The same four you were calling out weeks ago, that was going to cut off thousands? Did I miss the big encirclement yet? Or is that on the same pending schedule as the rest?

I keep saying it and you dont want to hear it. Things arent going as well as Ukraine says, nor as bad as Russia says (for Ukraine). You just keep revising and qualifying your stances after even russia has to admit to small truths.

Ukraine will lose those towns and cities. They may lose the whole east. But they arent going to break and collapse. The war will just get uglier and uglier.
 
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volgr said:
I said a couple of weeks ago Ukraine was close to collapse in the Donbass (and possibly overall)....well....you are starting to see it. Russia used the same strategy in Syria.

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Arestovich is saying this? It must be bad if the Baghdad Bob of Kyiv is coming out like this.
 
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MontyPython said:
Oops. So much for another one of your crackpot TASS theories, comrade.
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You do realize the ridiculously high energy prices the West is currently paying is causing far more political and economic pressure to the West compared to what Russia is experiencing do to the discounted oil price (and they will still take in much more profit this year vs last year).

You guys really do live in a fantasy world.
 
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LouderVol said:
Ukraine will lose those towns and cities. They may lose the whole east. But they arent going to break and collapse. The war will just get uglier and uglier.
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They already are collapsing, dum dum. Listen to some of the units who are not following orders. Come back to reality. Dont be like the other lemmings living in fantasy land. What the hell is wrong with most of you?
 
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volgr said:
You dont actually believe that do you? You may WANT to believe it, but you know that is BS...right?
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There is NO way this continues past the summer without a significant event happening. Half of russia wants to replace him, including the FSB, and members of the kremlin. They either arrest him, and throw him in a swanky russian prison situation (like a bunker for him and his fam), or he dissapears in some other fashion, but it is likely he disappears in one way or another in the coming months. He is going to have to lock himself in a secure location surrounded by his private army.

The problem is he has a tyrant replacement he is trying to install to replace him. I think the guy is Chechen or something. If this guy installs a non Russian leader after telling everyone of you he is trying to "save russia", would russians be upset?
 
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MontyPython said:
"In general, the battle in the Donbas is more politically significant for Russia than it is for Ukraine. Ukraine can afford to trade territory for attrition, and hope to retake it afterward. This has been the basis of Ukraineā€™s strategy since the start of the war. The Russian military has a structural problem with force availability, and is not designed to sustain war of this scale at ā€˜peace timeā€™ strength. Stopgap solutions can extend Russiaā€™s staying power in this war, but not resolve those fundamental challenges. Hence, even though the local military balance in the Donbas appears favorable to Russia, the overall trends in the military balance still favor Ukraine. That is a conditional assessment, based on the current situation, and the assumption that Ukraine receives sustained military support, along with other forms of battlefield relevant assistance from the West."


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Iā€™m curious whoā€™s assessment is this?
 
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At current standards at the end of the summer, russia will have lost a minimum of 50 thousand russians. They will have to devote another 30 thousand to trying to hold it as Ukrainians come flooding back in. It will be a third world country financially. And, it will be in a state of internal civil war. They also will have run out of steel and parts by then. That is not sustainable.
 
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Economic war seems to be going about as well as the actual war, for the Western Death Cultists.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
There is NO way this continues past the summer without a significant event happening. Half of russia wants to replace him, including the FSB, and members of the kremlin. They either arrest him, and throw him in a swanky russian prison situation (like a bunker for him and his fam), or he dissapears in some other fashion, but it is likely he disappears in one way or another in the coming months. He is going to have to lock himself in a secure location surrounded by his private army.

The problem is he has a tyrant replacement he is trying to install to replace him. I think the guy is Chechen or something. If this guy installs a non Russian leader after telling everyone of you he is trying to "save russia", would russians be upset?
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Good Lord is that ignorant. Who do you imagine will replace him? My 13 year old has a tighter grasp on current Russian politics than you. If they oust Putin (and that is HIGHLY unlikely) it will be because he has been TOO MODERATE not the opposite. Good grief.
 
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