War in Ukraine

[tvolsfan]

We've been is Germany and Japan for decades with no end in sight

With their consent. Panama wanted their land back.

 

[tvolsfan]

We didn't occupy Panama, we just controlled the canal zone and we should have never given that up.

It doesn't stop being a occupation just because you give the occupied territory a name.

 

[hog88]

It doesn't stop being a occupation just because you give the occupied territory a name.

It wasn't occupation since we did not take the canal zone by force, we signed a treaty.

 

[BeardedVol]

It wasn't occupation since we did not take the canal zone by force, we signed a treaty.

We supported Panama's succession from Columbia, in exchange for allowing the US to build the Panama Canal.

 

[Orangeburst]

nm..i dont really care

 

[hog88]

We supported Panama's succession from Columbia, in exchange for allowing the US to build the Panama Canal.

Yes and?

 

[BeardedVol]

Yes and?

We signed a treaty, with a country that only exists, because the country that owned the land where we wanted to build the Canal, wouldn't sign the treaty under the terms we offered.

Hay–Herrán Treaty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[hog88]

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We signed a treaty, with a country that only exists, because the country that owned the land where we wanted to build the Canal, wouldn't sign the treaty under the terms we offered.

Hay–Herrán Treaty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You’re talking in circles. Are you suggesting that our treaty with Panama wasn’t valid?

 

[Velo Vol]

I didn't say that there weren't problems but there was still no reason we should have given up control of the canal zone.

Could we have maintained control? Yes.

But really, how long do you want to have troops stationed in a place where the locals don't want you there, even if it's not at the boiling point? Indefinitely?

 

[hog88]

Could we have maintained control? Yes.

But really, how long do you want to have troops stationed in a place where the locals don't want you there, even if it's not at the boiling point? Indefinitely?

Yes. I spent a lot of time in Panama, none of the locals I met acted like they had a problem with us.

 

[volbound1700]

I feel like the Panama Canal stuff belongs in its own thread and not on here.

However, I don't see how people can't realize that the Canal is vital for US defense. How do you think WW2 would have gone if the USA could not use the Canal and had to send all their newly built warships around Argentina to get to the Pacific to fight Japan?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I feel like the Panama Canal stuff belongs in its own thread and not on here.

However, I don't see how people can't realize that the Canal is vital for US defense. How do you think WW2 would have gone if the USA could not use the Canal and had to send all their newly built warships around Argentina to get to the Pacific to fight Japan?

Russians and Ukrainians have passed through that canal which should make it admissible in the court of this thread.

 

[Velo Vol]

Yes. I spent a lot of time in Panama, none of the locals I met acted like they had a problem with us.

Now, after the 1977 treaty.

 

[MontyPython]

Yes. I spent a lot of time in Panama, none of the locals I met acted like they had a problem with us.

You might wanna stay away from Canada, Hoggy.

And Mexico.

And Europe.

Honestly, you should just travel to Pigeon Forge. More your speed anyway.

 

[hog88]

Now, after the 1977 treaty.

Yes of course my time there was after the 1977 treaty. But that doesn't matter.

The fact remains, one of Carter's worst decisions was to give Panama control of the canal.

 

[hog88]

You might wanna stay away from Canada, Hoggy.

And Mexico.

And Europe.

Honestly, you should just travel to Pigeon Forge. More your speed anyway.

I think we all understand why YOU have problems in all of those places.

 

[MontyPython]

Rehearsal of the Russian Black Sea fleet for Upcoming Parade in Sevastopol​

ALSO: Hogg's yacht.

 

[MontyPython]

I think we all understand why YOU have problems in all of those places.

 

[dalton_vol]

I feel like the Panama Canal stuff belongs in its own thread and not on here.

However, I don't see how people can't realize that the Canal is vital for US defense. How do you think WW2 would have gone if the USA could not use the Canal and had to send all their newly built warships around Argentina to get to the Pacific to fight Japan?

The problem is the countries like China will pay any money to gain control of something as important as that, which that's what they're trying to do or wanting to do now. I don't think Panama would have any issues taking hundreds of billions of dollars from a communist country. That's why we need to keep control of the canal

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Volsdeep4]

Chechen leader asks for Putin's approval to resign

www.pravda.com.ua

Kadyrov asks to step down. This his health issue that was talked about a year ago

 

[LouderVol]

Chechen leader asks for Putin's approval to resign

www.pravda.com.ua

Kadyrov asks to step down. This his health issue that was talked about a year ago

those microdoses of polonium catch up to you eventually.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Vol8188]

Trump is in a tough spot.
This is why he wanted to stay out of jail, was so he can be in power.

The more he complains about people dying every week, the more it comes off as -not having the stomach for war.

Putin HAD, reason to be upset with NATO expansion, but the invasion,,,then the ongoing shooting and killing during proposed peace times have shifted that completely.

For him to install a 3 day ceasefire all for the sake of Russian celebration is ballzy. He's testing Trump.

- Russia doesn't want peace
- Iran WILL have nuclear weapons when they get a real chance
- China will lie and bully until they are fully ready to invade Taiwan.

And All Countries want America destroyed.

Which is why we should strike Iran now, back the Ukraine to continue weakening Russia, and have been a heck of a lot slower in our tariff policy policy towards China while we build up our forces and our supply lines

 

[Volsdeep4]

Which is why we should strike Iran now, back the Ukraine to continue weakening Russia, and have been a heck of a lot slower in our tariff policy policy towards China while we build up our forces and our supply lines

Oh it’s coming. They have just started press releasing “nuclear plants we didn’t know about”. So in about a month when we start bombing the piss out of them the public won’t be bent out of shape about it.