hog88
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Congratulations on The Dumbest, Navel-Gazing Take of the Week! award.Curious. Wherever you live... if your neighbor invaded your property, killed your wife, raped your daughter... you'd be like, oh this is all good.
Darth is a hot-take genius.
Europe, Neos, and Dems solution has been we will proxy fight to the last Ukrainian.
No it doesn't have to include Europe, it doesn't even have to include the Ukraine.
You're about to be abandoned.
No one is talking about being handed over to Russia or even a surrender, but unless Europe and Zelensky want to go it alone, they're about out of options.I can't imagine why Ukrainians don't want to surrender to Putin.
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War crimes in the Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present) - Wikipedia
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I'm sure you'd be one of the first to do so should the US ever find itself invaded by a foreign power.
No one is talking about being handed over to Russia or even a surrender, but unless Europe and Zelensky want to go it alone, they're about out of options.
Well aware of it; you don't pay attention to terms; negotiated settlement vs. being handed over to Russia.You don't seem to be paying much attention.
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Ukraine 'may be Russian someday,' Trump warns
Donald Trump has spoken of doing a deal with Ukraine to obtain rare earth minerals in exchange for U.S. aid ahead of JD Vance's meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky.www.newsweek.com
Good thing that isn't happening, then. What they may be excluded from is continuing U.S. support.It's hard to fathom a more pointless exercise than peace negotiations excluding Ukraine in its own war, yet here we are. At least Zelensky will get some free toilet paper out of the deal.
You're certainly quite manly.Heh. "NCFisher". I fish circles around you juicebox.
But, yeah, it's tough to stick to the Kremlin line. We'll done!
Your premise is wrong much like your logic.You're certainly quite manly.
Reading comprehension, not so much.
Tell me, why do you want the war to continue when a majority of Ukrainians want a settled end to it?
Maybe they don't know tough guys like you and Beard are behind them 100%, and you just need to square them up..
Russia invaded Ukraine. Unprovoked. - at least you have firm grasp of the obvious.Your premise is wrong much like your logic.
Russia invaded Ukraine. Unprovoked. Now excluding Ukraine in peace talks? Oh sure... that makes sense.
Of course I want the war to end. It should have never happened.
Trump said he'd have this fixed *before* he even entered office. Just another lie. Slurp it up buttercup.
Curious way to admit defeat, but thank you.Russia invaded Ukraine. Unprovoked. - at least you have firm grasp of the obvious.
Well, maybe not:
MUNICH — Senior Trump administration officials are heading to Saudi Arabia to start peace talks with Russian and Ukrainian negotiators, according to a Republican lawmaker and two U.S. officials familiar with the plan.
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Trump team to start Russia-Ukraine peace talks in Saudi Arabia
A Ukrainian official said Kyiv wasn’t informed and doesn’t plan to attend.www.politico.eu
You and Beard need to tell those Ukrainian jukeboxes not to cede an inch, and that you want Crimea, too.
I don't care whether he helps end it day one or six months from now. I'll just applaud your having to find something else to shriek about. What will you do with that all that manliness, then?
Wolverines would just steal their signals.I can't imagine why Ukrainians don't want to surrender to Putin.
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War crimes in the Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present) - Wikipedia
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I'm sure you'd be one of the first to do so should the US ever find itself invaded by a foreign power.

So long as Ukraine gets to choose for themselves, I'm all for supporting them as the aggrieved party. Sounds like half of Ukrainians want the war to end (but on what exact terms?), which is totally understandable since war is hell. The war won't end until Russia has lost the thirst for conquest though because any settlement will require they stop invading. Ukraine isn't going to surrender absent Russia f%@%ing off, so the war will continue.Good thing that isn't happening, then. What they may be excluded from is continuing U.S. support.
52% of Ukrainians want a settled end to the war, against 38% continuing.
I question why so many outside the country need the war to continue.
Russia is seeking a solution, absent a solution...they will have to push them all into Poland.So long as Ukraine gets to choose for themselves, I'm all for supporting them as the aggrieved party. Sounds like half of Ukrainians want the war to end (but on what exact terms?), which is totally understandable since war is hell. The war won't end until Russia has lost the thirst for conquest though because any settlement will require they stop invading. Ukraine isn't going to surrender absent Russia f%@%ing off, so the war will continue.
Lol is this a best of Rasputinvol's nonsense post?Because that was a farce, as everyone with sense knew. And I noticed you that you ran ASAP to be outraged at DOGE. You’re panicked at the idea of audits. Daylight.
Because what if — in addition to infinite grift — your US coup in ‘14 (when you were so proud of your operates declaring “F Europe!” is brought to light? What if your Nord Stream Pipeline sabotage aimed in part at one of your “dear” European allies exposed.
