Voting 3rd Party

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bamawriter said:
But not voting for the nominee will get Hillary elected. So what's more important: beating Hillary, or voting for your preferred candidate?
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I made this point earlier bw. If you clearly see zero difference between Hillary and Donald, then it certainly seems reasonable to vote 3rd party or don't even vote. However, if one of those two candidates will do a better job as POTUS (and ftr... "better" does not mean good, but in fact could actually mean "do less long term damage than the other") then why not vote for that person? Again, my perspective is that a person's vote should be cast based on what will be the best option for the country... not who do I like the most or who is less evil.

I am not a big fan of Trump, but I do believe that he is far less politically corrupt than Hillary. Trump "may" do some damage... Hillary "has more than proven capable" of making decisions that will absolutely harm this country.
 
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ReaderVol said:
You're adding an entire new paradigm by "taking" the voters choice away. Not remotely the same thing.
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They're not taking anything away. The RNC is a private entity and can operate however it wants. If Trump doesn't get half of the delegates, he didn't achieve the requisite support needed across the party to get the nomination. At that point, he can either make a deal to secure the delegates, go home, or run third party.

For the record, I won't judge y'all if he runs third party. It's your right to vote for whoever you want. President Clinton would kinda suck, though. :)
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, I'm not. Just admit the whole concept of a Trump third party candidacy blows the entire premise of this thread out of the water and exposes those who just want to gripe about "insignificant" votes.

It's not that perplexing a concept.
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It's not a hard concept at all. And yes you're absolutely adding an entirely different question than which I've responded. If Trump loses then that's one thing. If it's TAKEN from him then that's totally different. I'd feel the same way for Cruz.
 
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UTCVol said:
They're not taking anything away. The RNC is a private entity and can operate however it wants. If Trump doesn't get half of the delegates, he didn't achieve the requisite support needed across the party to get the nomination. At that point, he can either make a deal to secure the delegates, go home, or run third party.

For the record, I won't judge y'all if he runs third party. It's your right to vote for whoever you want. President Clinton would kinda suck, though. :)
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You know better than what you just stated.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Thread title should be changed to "thinly veiled attempt to shame people into voting for trump and demonize anyone who doesn't" imo.
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Well then your opinion is incorrect...... Trump had absolutely nothing to do with my question. There were plenty of Gary Johnson supporters here in '12 and this issue was discussed some then as well.

I didn't vote in the primary here in TN because I had yet to decide who I wanted to vote for and knew Trump was going to blow the doors off of everyone.

I'll admit I've enjoyed watch Trump scare the living hell out of everyone.... the libs... The mesicans....the Muslims....BLM....and the GOP establishment. They're all crapping their pants......
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I made this point earlier bw. If you clearly see zero difference between Hillary and Donald, then it certainly seems reasonable to vote 3rd party or don't even vote. However, if one of those two candidates will do a better job as POTUS (and ftr... "better" does not mean good, but in fact could actually mean "do less long term damage than the other") then why not vote for that person? Again, my perspective is that a person's vote should be cast based on what will be the best option for the country... not who do I like the most or who is less evil.

I am not a big fan of Trump, but I do believe that he is far less politically corrupt than Hillary. Trump "may" do some damage... Hillary "has more than proven capable" of making decisions that will absolutely harm this country.
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Very well put.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If all polls show Hillary will win, will you still vote? If so, why?
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Polls have a margin of error much less than 100%...... Third party presidential candidates that 95% of the public have never heard of have zero chance of being elected..... See the difference?

I'm not knocking third party voters..... I'm just asking for their opinions and what motivates them to vote that way knowing their candidate isn't viable.
 
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If some of us wanna keep beating around the bush, I'd vote HTC over Trump if I was forced to choose. If you can tell me why that's the wrong choice, I'd welcome it.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Yes I did... because in your original post you did not define or allow for any certainty or uncertainty. You simply claimed that you don't consider "viability" when voting, so I used an extreme to point out that viability should be a consideration. And my further question to you, which you did not answer, is at what point iyo should viability become a consideration?
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I didn't say it was contingent upon that either. I was merely stating that the two situations are different via possibilities vs outcome.

I'm not sure viability ever matters in elections. You came up with a self-described extreme example and I don't think it matters.
 
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MG1968 said:
Ds and Rs both want to grow the government. Even if TN were a swing state, I would still vote for Gary Johnson.

It's not arrogance. I guess you could call me selfish in that I prefer to keep as much of my income as possible. If that means one less school lunch or one less aircraft carrier, then so be it.
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Hate to break it to you but Gary Johnson will never do either of those for you.
 
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Heaven forbid one entertain the thought of voting for the candidate, who of all the presented options is closest to your individual principles, regardless of party.

Then you're simply a self centered millennial who wasn't raised correctly and doesn't understand the true intentions of the elctorial process for President.
 
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Gramps said:
I knew behind all that tough talk about how conservativw you are, you had some common sense.
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1st - I have no love for the Trumpster.
2nd - Hillary would be an absolute disaster as POTUS.

We should sticky this thread and should Hillary win because votes are siphoned off the R candidate by a 3rd party see who admits to casting that independent vote.
 
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