Vote for peyton!!!

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I voted for Tom Brady cause I think he's the better NFL QB..college their is obviously no contest, but Brady is a top 3 QB all time in NFL..I'd have Peyton around that 8-10 range, maybe a little higher.

I'd love to have either, though.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
I voted for Tom Brady cause I think he's the better NFL QB..college their is obviously no contest, but Brady is a top 3 QB all time in NFL..I'd have Peyton around that 8-10 range, maybe a little higher.

I'd love to have either, though.
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blasphemy..
 
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All bias aside, Peyton is the better QB. The rings argument people try to make is stupid because what your saying is that Brady won them by himself and that's BS. Peyton should win this.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
I voted for Tom Brady cause I think he's the better NFL QB..college their is obviously no contest, but Brady is a top 3 QB all time in NFL..I'd have Peyton around that 8-10 range, maybe a little higher.

I'd love to have either, though.
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This is a load of crap.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
All bias aside, Peyton is the better QB. The rings argument people try to make is stupid because what your saying is that Brady won them by himself and that's BS. Peyton should win this.
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i agree.. the Colts wouldnt be a playoff team imo without Manning.. the Pats won 11 games when Matt Cassel was starting for Brady, he has a great team around him
 
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AstonRoyal said:
Peyton Manning bests Tom Brady in ESPN.com's quarterback voting - ESPN

They're trying to compare Brady to Peyton, but in my opinion there's no comparison. Peyton's better and wins with less talent. VOTE PEYTON :)
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What are the names of the wide receivers Brady had when he won his Super Bowl rings? Seriously, I don't know.

Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Dallas Clark.

Manning may or may not be better, but saying he won more with less is ludicrous.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
This is a load of crap.
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That's a solid debate.

TSwafford said:
i agree.. the Colts wouldnt be a playoff team imo without Manning.. the Pats won 11 games when Matt Cassel was starting for Brady, he has a great team around him
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Matt Cassel had Wes Welker and Randy Moss.

Brady won 3 superbowl rings with receivers that I doubt you even know. His best receivers were Deion Branch and Troy Brown.

I love Peyton, but what Tom did with his supporting cast is nothing short of spectacular. 6 game winning drives in the playoffs. Tied most for all time with John Elway. Manning has 1.

So that goes to show Brady didn't just ride his defense for those superbowls.
 
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UNAVol89 said:
What are the names of the wide receivers Brady had when he won his Super Bowl rings? Seriously, I don't know.

Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Dallas Clark.

Manning may or may not be better, but saying he won more with less is ludicrous.
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lol just because you never heard of them doesnt mean they are ****
 
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Titans4Vols said:
I voted for Tom Brady cause I think he's the better NFL QB..college their is obviously no contest, but Brady is a top 3 QB all time in NFL..I'd have Peyton around that 8-10 range, maybe a little higher.

I'd love to have either, though.
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You don't like Peyton because he kicks the tar out of your beloved Titans.
 
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Peyton Manning has made his receivers great. It doesn't matter who steps in, he places the ball perfectly. Look how much Brady is struggling without Moss. It doesn't matter who gets injured for the Colts, Peyton always makes them look great. He also is a better on the field coach. Brady is a top 10 QB, but Peyton is way better imo.
 
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Spygate

Plus Brady was fortunate to have Bledsoe backing him up in that first super bowl. I don't think Curtis Painter could beat the Steelers in an AFC championship game.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
You don't like Peyton because he kicks the tar out of your beloved Titans.
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No, that has nothing to do with my decision. Tom Brady has beaten the Titans numerous times too. 59-0 ring a bell?

Peyton Manning has made his receivers great. It doesn't matter who steps in, he places the ball perfectly. Look how much Brady is struggling without Moss. It doesn't matter who gets injured for the Colts, Peyton always makes them look great. He also is a better on the field coach. Brady is a top 10 QB, but Peyton is way better imo.
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Peyton Manning can make his receivers great, yes. However, Marvin Harrison is a HOF talent, and Reggie Wayne was a first rounder for a reason. That being said, Peyton has made a star out of a lot of nobodies. It's just that he doesn't have that same "clutch" factor in the playoffs.

If I'm down by 3 or 7 in the playoffs/superbowl/whichever, I want Tom Brady. He's proven it on more occasions than Peyton(note 6 game winning drives in the playoffs compared to 1 for Peyton).

Spygate

Plus Brady was fortunate to have Bledsoe backing him up in that first super bowl. I don't think Curtis Painter could beat the Steelers in an AFC championship game.
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Lmfao. Wow.

Can't think of anything else so you resort to that? Despite the fact that most NFL analysts(who were former GMs, players, etc) said it goes on everywhere.

Way to go.

And who gives a **** that he had Bledsoe as his backup?
 
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Manning develops his wr thats why you here about them, anothony gonzalez wasnt anything special at ohio st, and who is austin collie, and peirre garcon.
 
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almirUT said:
Manning develops his wr thats why you here about them, anothony gonzalez wasnt anything special at ohio st, and who is austin collie, and peirre garcon.
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Gonzalez was a first round draft pick. Yeah, sure, no one had EVER heard of him.

He's really developed Collie and Garcon, although, Collie was a very good receiver at BYU. He owns a lot of records.

I dunno much about Garcon's college background, though.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
I voted for Tom Brady cause I think he's the better NFL QB..college their is obviously no contest, but Brady is a top 3 QB all time in NFL..I'd have Peyton around that 8-10 range, maybe a little higher.

I'd love to have either, though.
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I can appreciate your unbiased analysis, but that statement is ludacris.
 
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PapaBurgundy said:
I can appreciate your unbiased analysis, but that statement is ludacris.
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Having guys like Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Steve Young, Bart Starr and Roger Staubach above him is a stretch?

It comes down to opinion, really.

I value playoff performances above anything else. Not wins like so many seem to (wrongly, in my opinion) do. What really helps is being clutch in the playoffs, like Brady, with 6 game winning drives.

If you're clutch in the playoffs, you're good enough to be my QB. Look at Ben Roethlisberger. Not the flashiest stats in the regular season, but there aren't many QBs in history that I would take over him in the playoffs because of how clutch he is.

You may value regular season much more than I do, and that's fine, but with the way I rank QBs, Peyton isn't in my top 5 like he is for many others.

Like I said, I love Peyton, and his intelligence and accuracy is as good as it gets..but others have proven more in the playoffs, and that, for me, puts them above Peyton.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
Having guys like Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Steve Young, Bart Starr and Roger Staubach above him is a stretch?

No, not at all. However, that puts him at 6th not 8th-10th.

It comes down to opinion, really.

Very true.

Seems to me your looking more at best winners all time than best qb's. Peyton has a top 5 career passer rating in history, had the #1 passer rating for a season, has completed the 3rd most passes in a career, has the 3rd highest completion % in a career, 3rd for most season with 3,000+ yards, tied for 2nd with most 400+ yard games in a career, 3rd for most td passes in a career. OK, I'm tired of listing stats.

I guess basically it comes down to the whole Dan Marino thing, if you think of a QB's greatness in reference to superbowls - which you do - Brady is better. If not I think it's clear that Peyton is. I personally, have never understood that methodology because it is only relevant to qb's. No one cares how many rings the best rb's or wr's have. That being said, neither is wrong.

Like you said it's all opinion.
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UNAVol89 said:
What are the names of the wide receivers Brady had when he won his Super Bowl rings? Seriously, I don't know.

Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Dallas Clark.
Thats because Peyton made them who they are! Hello
Manning may or may not be better, but saying he won more with less is ludicrous.
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PapaBurgundy said:
Titans4Vols said:
Having guys like Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Steve Young, Bart Starr and Roger Staubach above him is a stretch?

No, not at all. However, that puts him at 6th not 8th-10th.

It comes down to opinion, really.

Very true.

Seems to me your looking more at best winners all time than best qb's. Peyton has a top 5 career passer rating in history, had the #1 passer rating for a season, has completed the 3rd most passes in a career, has the 3rd highest completion % in a career, 3rd for most season with 3,000+ yards, tied for 2nd with most 400+ yard games in a career, 3rd for most td passes in a career. OK, I'm tired of listing stats.

I guess basically it comes down to the whole Dan Marino thing, if you think of a QB's greatness in reference to superbowls - which you do - Brady is better. If not I think it's clear that Peyton is. I personally, have never understood that methodology because it is only relevant to qb's. No one cares how many rings the best rb's or wr's have. That being said, neither is wrong.

Like you said it's all opinion.
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I was only naming a few I'd have above him.

It's not superbowls. It's playoff performances. Brady has 6 game winning playoff drives..no one has surpassed that, and the only one who has the same is Elway. Playoff performances are the most important to me, and playoff game winning drives ties in to that. Brady has drove his team down to win a superbowl twice, and would be a 3rd time if Asante Samuel didn't drop a pick and their defense was able to sack Eli Manning.

Peyton just hasn't transitioned his regular season greatness(and I don't think there has ever been a better regular season QB than him) to playoff greatness. I know all of his regular season records, and that's why he's in the top 10 QBs of all time. People act like it's some kind of insult if the guy isn't in the top 5 or 3 or some ****(not saying you, but a majority).

I just personally find it very hard to look over the greatness that Tom Brady has achieved in the playoffs. He and Joe Montana are as clutch as it gets in the playoffs.
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Titans4Vols said:
That's a solid debate.



Matt Cassel had Wes Welker and Randy Moss.

Brady won 3 superbowl rings with receivers that I doubt you even know. His best receivers were Deion Branch and Troy Brown.

I love Peyton, but what Tom did with his supporting cast is nothing short of spectacular. 6 game winning drives in the playoffs. Tied most for all time with John Elway. Manning has 1.

So that goes to show Brady didn't just ride his defense for those superbowls.
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If he had played with the Colts defense, they would not have even made the playoffs the years they won the superbowl.
 
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ddean1357 said:
If he had played with the Colts defense, they would not have even made the playoffs the years they won the superbowl.
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And the one superbowl Peyton has he rode his defense to.

What's your point? He's the reason they won quite a few of those playoff games, and the reason they won 2 of the superbowls.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
And the one superbowl Peyton has he rode his defense to.

What's your point? He's the reason they won quite a few of those playoff games, and the reason they won 2 of the superbowls.
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THe defense played good in the playoffs, but they sucked during the regular season. Brady is a good quarterback, but in my opinion he is not great.
 
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