Von Pearson WILL NOT be charged

#51
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jakez4ut said:
yeah,i don't think we should get too excited here. glad for him this is working out for him, but there still has to be a decision made by the university as to whether or not they want to deal with the fall out from reinstating, and allowing to play, a player involved in this type of incident.

"found insufficient evidence" can mean a lot of things.

i don't know that it means there wasn't at least a reason to have the investigation to begin with....."something" happened, and it apparently warranted an investigation to find out if anything COULD BE CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED. they didn't say "innocent of all accusations". they just don't have proof of anything to pursue a prosecution.

good for him, but let's put the halo's way....
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Have you ever heard a DA say "innocent of all accusations"?
 
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#52
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jakez4ut said:
yeah,i don't think we should get too excited here. glad for him this is working out for him, but there still has to be a decision made by the university as to whether or not they want to deal with the fall out from reinstating, and allowing to play, a player involved in this type of incident.

"found insufficient evidence" can mean a lot of things.

i don't know that it means there wasn't at least a reason to have the investigation to begin with....."something" happened, and it apparently warranted an investigation to find out if anything COULD BE CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED. they didn't say "innocent of all accusations". they just don't have proof of anything to pursue a prosecution.

good for him, but let's put the halo's way....
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This is probably being extreme, but I really feel like ANY other university, including this big-hitters (OSU, FSU, Bama) would have announced this as "Pearson cleared by DA, reinstated to team."
 
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utbffan said:
It is sad that this young man life has been put on hold. We are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. He was treated the opposite. I don't care about the face of the university. His rights were violated. Period.
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Specifically which rights were violated? He was accused of some pretty serious stuff and all parties involved deserved a thorough investigation
 
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utbffan said:
It is sad that this young man life has been put on hold. We are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. He was treated the opposite. I don't care about the face of the university. His rights were violated. Period.
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I agree with this. I hope that this event will not reoccur, but if it does I hope it's handled differently.

Now we wait and see what UT does.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i seriously don't get why everyone is so excited. "insufficient evidence" just means they couldn't find enough proof to prosecute. it doesn't mean that nothing happened, and he's completely innocent of all accusations.

there's a bigger picture folks.
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I understand, but who knows if this girl was stretching the truth. If she did, then she should be charged.
 
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utbffan said:
It is sad that this young man life has been put on hold. We are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. He was treated the opposite. I don't care about the face of the university. His rights were violated. Period.
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While I agree that it's BS if he's innocent of everything, but exactly what rights of his were violated?
 
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butchna said:
The ONE time you didn't go on there to complain about there being no update? :)
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jakez4ut said:
i seriously don't get why everyone is so excited. "insufficient evidence" just means they couldn't find enough proof to prosecute. it doesn't mean that nothing happened, and he's completely innocent of all accusations.

there's a bigger picture folks.
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I understand your point, but the key fact is that there is no physical evidence that any assault/molestation happened. That being the case, it is likely that it was just "indecent exposure", correct? (based on initial reports back when it was first reported)...

Indecent exposure isn't a good thing, but surely wouldn't be grounds for dismissal or lengthy suspension.. Maybe I'm wrong on that...?
 
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jakez4ut said:
i seriously don't get why everyone is so excited. "insufficient evidence" just means they couldn't find enough proof to prosecute. it doesn't mean that nothing happened, and he's completely innocent of all accusations.

there's a bigger picture folks.
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Put it out there. Otherwise, he is innocent until proven guilty and there would be no reason for UT not to enroll him and let him at.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yes, i do.
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Accused of rape. Rape kit was negative.

Now maybe he did something terrible and got away with it but everything is pointing to him being innocent. I maybe totally off base but I've heard the standard of evidence necessary for charging and indicting someone is very low and Von was never charged.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i seriously don't get why everyone is so excited. "insufficient evidence" just means they couldn't find enough proof to prosecute. it doesn't mean that nothing happened, and he's completely innocent of all accusations.

there's a bigger picture folks.
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The bigger picture is the problem. If the school continues to punish him when a court of law can't, what's to stop anyone from claiming anything against anybody just to ruin their education? It's one thing to be arrested and tried and found not guilty because you had a good lawyer or the case was thin. It's another to not have enough evidence to even charge a guy. That means they've got nothing other than one persons word against another. If you allow that to be the reason for school suspension, then you open Pandora's box.
 
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Carlitovol said:
I understand your point, but the key fact is that there is no physical evidence that any assault/molestation happened. That being the case, it is likely that it was just "indecent exposure", correct? (based on initial reports back when it was first reported)...

Indecent exposure isn't a good thing, but surely wouldn't be grounds for dismissal or lengthy suspension.. Maybe I'm wrong on that...?
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I know it's something that can cause you to be banned from Ihop
 
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jakez4ut said:
i seriously don't get why everyone is so excited. "insufficient evidence" just means they couldn't find enough proof to prosecute. it doesn't mean that nothing happened, and he's completely innocent of all accusations.

there's a bigger picture folks.
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The law doesn't prove innocence-- innocence is presumed unless the state can prove guilt. Only Von and his accuser will ever know the real truth in this case-- which is precisely the outcome in most sexual assault allegations.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i seriously don't get why everyone is so excited. "insufficient evidence" just means they couldn't find enough proof to prosecute. it doesn't mean that nothing happened, and he's completely innocent of all accusations.

there's a bigger picture folks.
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In the eyes of the law, no there's not, otherwise one could be prsecuted willy nilly with no evidence needed for accusation and prosecution. If the girl said she was raped, but there are no witnesses to corroborate her accusations and no physical evidence to prove her accusation then why exactly should anyone believe that "something happened"? Certainly not what she claimed happened anyway. If you wanna believe he raped her just because she said so go ahead....me, I'm gonna believe the evidence or, in this case, the lack thereof.
 
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Step 1. Get cleared by the Knoxville DA. CHECK!
Step 2. Get cleared by the UT PD.
Step 3. Get cleared by the UT admins.
Step 4. Get cleared by the UT student affairs council.
Step 5. Get cleared by Dave Hart.
Step 6. Get cleared by Butch Jones.
Step 7. Get cleared by Zach Azzanni.
Step 8. Get cleared by teammates.
Step 9. Get cleared by equipment managers.
Step 10. Get cleared by grounds crew.
Step 11. Get cleared by roundtable of SEC coaches.
Step 12. Get cleared by Johnny Majors after 10 whiskey sours.
Step 13. Get cleared by UN Panel on Climate Change.
Step 14. Get cleared by 9/11 Commission.
Step 15. Resume practice with team.

Almost there, fellas.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i seriously don't get why everyone is so excited. "insufficient evidence" just means they couldn't find enough proof to prosecute. it doesn't mean that nothing happened, and he's completely innocent of all accusations.

there's a bigger picture folks.
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So I'm assuming you didn't go to law school, but in the United States we have a "presumption of innocence" which basically means that a person is innocent until proven guilty. So yes, the fact that there was literally no evidence to establish probable cause to charge does mean (in the United States of America) that he is innocent of the accusations. Frankly probable cause to charge isn't even that high a burden really so that they couldn't find that is pretty indicative that there literally was no evidence whatsoever to support her claim. The bigger picture is that our system of justice works, an innocent person won't stand trial for a crime he did not commit, and the world will keep spinning.
 
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I hope this is the proper ending of a false claim. If it's the opposite, then it's too bad. Based on the stuff I've posted before, though, I'm guessing that it was a false claim.
 
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