Volscars-Bruce Pearl's Rap (merged)

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kidbourbon said:
If UT isn't a basketball school, then why are we top 3 in attendance? Are the 20k+ people showing up for games getting tricked? Do they think they are going to a football game?
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Do you seriously want to argue this point?

Football always has been, and always will be (IMO), the most popular sport at UT.

For the other side of the coin look at Duke, UNC, KY etc.

Attendance is first a matter of having the capacity in the arena. UT has the room that many others don't. To compare 20,000 (Hoops)to 100,000 (football) is just ignorant. I highly doubt UT could pack 100,000 in weekly to watch hoops even with the facilities.
 
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Anyone that thinks this is an embarrassment just because ESPN will eat it up are just pathetic. Do you really care what someone else or the media thinks?
 
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volmanbill said:
Do you seriously want to argue this point?

Football always has been, and always will be (IMO), the most popular sport at UT.

For the other side of the coin look at Duke, UNC, KY etc.

Attendance is first a matter of having the capacity in the arena. UT has the room that many others don't. To compare 20,000 (Hoops)to 100,000 (football) is just ignorant. I highly doubt UT could pack 100,000 in weekly to watch hoops even with the facilities.
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Some would disagree with that. Ask Florida. They only seat about 12000, and they never sell out, so the capacity isn't the only decider. Tennessee certainly has a better following in basketball than most schools. Football is still king, but Tennessee has a better following than many schools in basketball as well.
 
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volmanbill said:
Do you seriously want to argue this point?

Football always has been, and always will be (IMO), the most popular sport at UT.

For the other side of the coin look at Duke, UNC, KY etc.

Attendance is first a matter of having the capacity in the arena. UT has the room that many others don't. To compare 20,000 (Hoops)to 100,000 (football) is just ignorant. I highly doubt UT could pack 100,000 in weekly to watch hoops even with the facilities.
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So the only criteria for being a "basketball school" is that basketball is the most popular sport on campus?

I won't argue the point if that is your definition. I just think your definition is stupid. It precludes programs like Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Michigan, etc. from being considered "basketball schools" regardless of the amount of success those programs have on the hardwood. Why lump a school into one category or the other? This isn't a zero sum game. Success in one sport doesn't come at the expense of the other -- a school can kick ass at both sports. Similarly, fan support isn't a zero sum game. Does the fact that football is more popular prevent students from filling in TBA and going nuts? Of course it doesn't.

My point is that a school can be both a "basketball school" and a "football school" all at once. And I would certainly hope that is our goal.
 
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kidbourbon said:
So the only criteria for being a "basketball school" is that basketball is the most popular sport on campus?

I won't argue the point if that is your definition. I just think your definition is stupid. It precludes programs like Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Michigan, etc. from being considered "basketball schools" regardless of the amount of success those programs have on the hardwood. Why lump a school into one category or the other? This isn't a zero sum game. Success in one sport doesn't come at the expense of the other -- a school can kick ass at both sports. Similarly, fan support isn't a zero sum game. Does the fact that football is more popular prevent students from filling in TBA and going nuts? Of course it doesn't.

My point is that a school can be both a "basketball school" and a "football school" all at once. And I would certainly hope that is our goal.
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Maybe you should go back and read my original post on the subject. I wasn't hating on the hoops team. I simply stated a fact. It would be great if UT had monumental success on the hard wood. Look at the numbers here on VN when it comes to game threads. Which has more interest? Feel free to start a poll here and ask the question about what category UT falls in.

What schools would (in your mind) fit into the category of both a FB and BB school? I'm curious.
 
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kidbourbon said:
So the only criteria for being a "basketball school" is that basketball is the most popular sport on campus?

I won't argue the point if that is your definition. I just think your definition is stupid. It precludes programs like Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Michigan, etc. from being considered "basketball schools" regardless of the amount of success those programs have on the hardwood. Why lump a school into one category or the other? This isn't a zero sum game. Success in one sport doesn't come at the expense of the other -- a school can kick ass at both sports. Similarly, fan support isn't a zero sum game. Does the fact that football is more popular prevent students from filling in TBA and going nuts? Of course it doesn't.

My point is that a school can be both a "basketball school" and a "football school" all at once. And I would certainly hope that is our goal.
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you should just keep it to this. this is the only thing you 've stated that makes any sense when discussing the status of mens basketball's place on the totum pole. which, btw, is right below football.:thumbsup:
 
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The guys on PTI just answered a call-in question about whether this video would help or hurt recruiting. Neither could say enough good things about the video and used words like "brilliant" to describe what he's done.

And when you think about it....that's really impressive since ESPN hates the Vols.
 
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I really don't give a rat's ass about the whole rapping thing but I do have a question. Who thinks Coach K, Roy Williams, Bobby Knight, John Wooden, Bill Self, Jay Wright, Jim Calhoun, Mike Anderson, Jim Boeheim or any other coach at a high level program would get on a stage with his players and act like a clown for all the world to see?
 
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hmanvolfan said:
I really don't give a rat's ass about the whole rapping thing but I do have a question. Who thinks Coach K, Roy Williams, Bobby Knight, John Wooden, Bill Self, Jay Wright, Jim Calhoun, Mike Anderson, Jim Boeheim or any other coach at a high level program would get on a stage with his players and act like a clown for all the world to see?
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I bet at some point in their careers they all did. The difference is there wasn't a video of every sneeze on the internet.

And again, UT is not yet a "big-time" hoops program when compared to those you mention.
 
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volmanbill said:
I bet at some point in their careers they all did. The difference is there wasn't a video of every sneeze on the internet.

And again, UT is not yet a "big-time" hoops program when compared to those you mention.
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Actually, it seems Pearl's biggest mistake in this situation was doing it immediately after a season in which he and the team underachieved. I know there were some people who have criticized the other stunts over the past few years, but none got as much of a negative reaction as this one.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
I really don't give a rat's ass about the whole rapping thing but I do have a question. Who thinks Coach K, Roy Williams, Bobby Knight, John Wooden, Bill Self, Jay Wright, Jim Calhoun, Mike Anderson, Jim Boeheim or any other coach at a high level program would get on a stage with his players and act like a clown for all the world to see?
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Make a point.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
I really don't give a rat's ass about the whole rapping thing but I do have a question. Who thinks Coach K, Roy Williams, Bobby Knight, John Wooden, Bill Self, Jay Wright, Jim Calhoun, Mike Anderson, Jim Boeheim or any other coach at a high level program would get on a stage with his players and act like a clown for all the world to see?
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There is a previous post about guitar hero...go read it.
 
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jakez4ut said:
you should just keep it to this. this is the only thing you 've stated that makes any sense when discussing the status of mens basketball's place on the totum pole. which, btw, is right below football.:thumbsup:
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To the extent that you have understood any of my posts as implying that UT BB is above UT FB on the totem pole, then my writing skills are in need of a touch-up.

I acknowledge that FB > BB and I think it will probably always be that way. But as BB gets more and more respectable, I just think it disparages the improvements and accomplishments of BB to say that UT is a "FB school."

In sum, I believe the statements (1) "UT is a football school," and (2) "UT is a basketball school" can happily co-exist.
 
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volmanbill said:
Maybe you should go back and read my original post on the subject. I wasn't hating on the hoops team. I simply stated a fact. It would be great if UT had monumental success on the hard wood. Look at the numbers here on VN when it comes to game threads. Which has more interest? Feel free to start a poll here and ask the question about what category UT falls in.

What schools would (in your mind) fit into the category of both a FB and BB school? I'm curious.
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I'm going out on a limb here (some of these fit more clearly than others) so please be kind while ripping me to shreds. This is not intended to be a definitive or exhaustive list...just some that come to mind:
-Georgia Tech
-West Virginia
-Florida
-Michigan
-LSU
-Pitt
-Texas
-Oklahoma State
-Virginia (both because neither)
-Tennessee (more and more)
-Illinois
-Ohio State
 
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Just saw the Bruce Pearl Rap on the local news in Phoenix, AZ. i have to admit it was very sad, but the exposure is FREAKIN" awesome. I LOVE IT! GO VOLS!
 
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The clip coming on after a commercial break here on the Memphis local news. The talking heads had a little giggle going to commercial. Maybe I should head down to the station and go all indignant on them. :shades:
 
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So, last year was highly successful? Did the Vols get to the Final Four or something like that I missed?
 
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