Vols Unranked in AP Top 25 Preseason Poll

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#102
Guys.

We could be preseason ranked 130.
We play a schedule to where it doesn't matter, and that IF WE WON all our games we'd be #1 heading into SEC Championship.

Why give a crap if we're ranked or not preseason?
What does it matter if we're not winning?
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Can someone please explain the Ole Miss love to me? I don’t get it. Also, do people really think Arkansas is that much better than us? They play in a tougher division and also have a very difficult OOC schedule. What about them is so great? I’m starting to think that voters really like Sam Pittman as a person and that influences their votes.
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Did you miss Kentucky? They probably play the weakest schedule in the East and the out of conference schedule includes nobody's plus Louisville who can generally be a nobody. They are the one team we consistently beat.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
I think they get the benefit of the doubt because they're Notre Dame, but I wouldn't exactly call them irrelevant.

In the last 10 years

2012: started unranked, finished in the national title game
2013: started 14, finished 20
2014: started 17, finished unranked
2015: started 11, finished 11
2016: started 10, finished unranked
2017: started unranked, finished 11
2018: started 12, finished 5
2019: started 9, finished 12
2020: started 10, finished in the playoff
2021: started 9, finished 8

I would offer Texas or USC as better examples of programs that always get a Top 25 nod and fall into "irrelevance." Even Michigan as an example of a program that starts 6-0 or highly ranked and falls off.
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Reported for bringing facts into this discussion.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
So the answer about Ole Miss is that it’s all speculation. They lost almost all of their big names, including Corrall.
Arkansas beat Texas (5-7) Penn State (7-6) and what should have been a (7-5) aTm team. Impressive in name only. I’m not complaining about not being in the top 25, I was just wondering why people have a high opinion of Ole Miss in particular, and why people think Arkansas is that much further ahead of us, especially given their schedule.
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They got some good pieces in the portal. Zach Evans especially…but it could a rough year. I think Lane is crafty enough to get at least 7 wins which will not have any Ole Miss fans calling for his exit.
 
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Vol865 said:
USC 2021 record: 4-8
Preseason ranking: 14

Miami 2021 record: 7-5
Preseason ranking: 16

All I need to see. Flat out joke.
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USC added Lincoln Riley, Caleb Williams, Jordan Addison and about 15 other transfer portal players. That’s why the ranking.
 
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jeff1vol said:
NEWS FLASH!!! We don't deserve to be ranked! We were not very good last year and had bad losses to UF, Pitt, Ole Miss and Purdue in the bowl game. UT should've beaten all of those teams if they were a Top 25 level team. UT will simply have to PROVE they belong. Which is 100% alright with me
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None of those were bad losses. All were potentially winnable but none were bad.
 
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TC 83 said:
They got some good pieces in the portal. Zach Evans especially…but it could a rough year. I think Lane is crafty enough to get at least 7 wins which will not have any Ole Miss fans calling for his exit.
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The Portal King is definitely Lane’s moniker now. He’s added some good pieces, but it has to be tough to get all those guys in there and on the same page learning new schemes, especially w/ a new OC. You’re right, he’ll be crafty enough to get them to 7 or 8.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Did you miss Kentucky? They probably play the weakest schedule in the East and the out of conference schedule includes nobody's plus Louisville who can generally be a nobody. They are the one team we consistently beat.
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I agree that they play a weak schedule, but that’s how I figure they get to 9-10 wins. Trust me, i didn’t forget about them. They’ve been my #1 target all off-season.
 
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Head scratcher, Kentucky ranked ahead of us at #20, and we beat them last year.
 
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Remy said:
Head scratcher, Kentucky ranked ahead of us at #20, and we beat them last year.
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You can't just look at it like that but I do think they are overrated. They seem to get favor scheduling. Look at their bowl game. They played a team that struggled to score most of the year.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
None of those were bad losses. All were potentially winnable but none were bad.
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"Bad" wasnt a good use by me. IOW... We would have plenty of ranking love IF we won those games. They were very winnable, but we just werent quite good enough. Thats why we arent ranked preseason, IMO. Gotta EARN it and we just didnt do enough.
 
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TrumpedUpVol said:
Vols are #26.

With respect to Wake Forest, anyone ranking them in the Top 25 now that their quarterback is out of commission does not deserve a vote going forward.

Vols will probably jump to #24 after week one, setting up a ranked matchup with Pitt provided they don't lose the Backyard Brawl. Win in Pittsburgh and the Vols should be Top 15 heading into the Florida game.
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WF will not win 6 games now!
 
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BigSteve09 said:
I think they get the benefit of the doubt because they're Notre Dame, but I wouldn't exactly call them irrelevant.

In the last 10 years

2012: started unranked, finished in the national title game
2013: started 14, finished 20
2014: started 17, finished unranked
2015: started 11, finished 11
2016: started 10, finished unranked
2017: started unranked, finished 11
2018: started 12, finished 5
2019: started 9, finished 12
2020: started 10, finished in the playoff
2021: started 9, finished 8

I would offer Texas or USC as better examples of programs that always get a Top 25 nod and fall into "irrelevance." Even Michigan as an example of a program that starts 6-0 or highly ranked and falls off.
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USC was #1 on the list of under achiever’s last 15 yrs. There was actually a pole. Texas was 3rd.
 
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peaygolf said:
2021 #5
2020 #4
2019 #15
2018 #3
2017 #14

I ain’t no ND fan, but I’m not sure these final rankings indicate irrelevance…….
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I probably should have clarified "irrelevance".

I've never been scared or nervous of Notre Dame. Every year they seem all hat no cattle. Gunslinger reputation without the quick trigger finger. They never seem to hold a candle to the top SEC teams. If Notre Dame comes to mind, it's followed by "meh".

Even more, when ND comes to mind I don't think of a dominant football team. I think of the movie Rudy and Manti Teo getting Catfished
 
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rdk4121 said:
We're still 26th, which means we're most likely going to be ranked come week 2, just given some of those teams most likely face one another and will drop. I think we're better than several teams ahead of us, but it's up to us to prove it on the field.
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