Vols Practice Thread Tuesday

[peerless98]

You do realize just because someone isn’t a coach doesn’t mean they can’t analyze what they see and pick out the defects?

I might not be a coach but I can watch JG play and see the kid has some issues with his foot work and his ability of not being able to read a defense.

It doesn’t take a great coach to see there is a problem at QB and it appears Pruitt is either to stubborn to see it or has no idea what he’s looking at.

You do realize that all the coaches see what we see and more, right? Just because there is a problem doesn't mean there is an easy fix. He has never stated that there isn't a problem at QB. The bolded part of your post implies that you either know more than he does, or you believe you could at least do a better job than Pruitt. Have you thrown your name in the hat for any openings around the country lately? Is your agent aware of your abilities? Maybe you are just happier doing whatever it is that you do, or you are satisfied with slinging mud from a distance.

 

[Pride85]

As opposed to a QB who holds onto the ball for too long and then fumbles the ball when he gets hit on his blindside cause he didn’t see the CB blitz coming........again.

Again, a turn over for whatever reason is just as bad. Too eager or too brain dead has the same result.

 

[UTwick]

If a freshman rolls out there and throws a couple picks we basically have JG all over again. He’s ruined mentally before he gets his feet underneath him. I’m not saying that’s every case but there’s a good chance it happens.

I don’t necessarily think that a backup QB throwing a couple of picks would/should ruin him. If that’s the case, then that QB doesn’t have the mental toughness to lead our team.

 

[zydane47]

Again, a turn over for whatever reason is just as bad. Too eager or too brain dead has the same result.

Eh At least with an INT it could be almost like a punt, while yeah it sucks but not a short field.

I’d rather see the QB take a risk instead of holding back and failing because he’s scared.

 

[UTwick]

It’s obvious at this point JG helped Pruitt hide a body.

He could hide a couple more under that stupid smock.

 

[zydane47]

You do realize that all the coaches see what we see and more, right? Just because there is a problem doesn't mean there is an easy fix. He has never stated that there isn't a problem at QB. The bolded part of your post implies that you either know more than he does, or you believe you could at least do a better job than Pruitt. Have you thrown your name in the hat for any openings around the country lately? Is your agent aware of your abilities? Maybe you are just happier doing whatever it is that you do, or you are satisfied with slinging mud from a distance.

“Well, I think you guys probably give yourselves more credit than you deserve. The rest of us, we’re not really worried about what you say when it comes to our quarterback and all of that.”

That was Pruitt’s response when he was asked if JG handled the week leading up to UTC was different and the plan to get other QBs in the game.

That response tells me that Pruitt feels he’s above criticism, and I hate to break it to you and him but he’s not. That’s a stubborn or tone deaf attitude and it will cost him his job.

So If you want to make snide comments that’s fine, but at the end of the day we, the fans, and people all over the country and media have seen piss poor coaching happening here. Which doesn’t appear to change any time soon unfortunately.

 

[peerless98]

“Well, I think you guys probably give yourselves more credit than you deserve. The rest of us, we’re not really worried about what you say when it comes to our quarterback and all of that.”

That was Pruitt’s response when he was asked if JG handled the week leading up to UTC was different and the plan to get other QBs in the game.

That response tells me that Pruitt feels he’s above criticism, and I hate to break it to you and him but he’s not. That’s a stubborn or tone deaf attitude and it will cost him his job.

So If you want to make snide comments that’s fine, but at the end of the day we, the fans, and people all over the country and media have seen piss poor coaching happening here. Which doesn’t appear to change any time soon unfortunately.

Do you think the local media is a credible source of football knowledge? Seriously? That is to whom he was responding by the way. If you were the head football coach, would you want them spewing that garbage for your team and future players to read? Most of them do not know the difference between their ass and a hole in the ground. Has it ever occurred to you that a lot, if not most, of the content in local pieces is "stolen" straight from Volnation? I wonder why that is.

 

[awaitingawin]

Or knows the options are not any better with the others available. Maurer does make much quicker decisions, but an interception because the QB make a quick but bad decision is just as bad as an interception because the QB was late on the decision and throw.

I don't care if the kid throws 5 interceptions against GA..... Try giving them as long as JG and then vote who is better... Time for the youngsters now... To roll out JG again is not good for any one

 

[zydane47]

Do you think the local media is a credible source of football knowledge? Seriously? That is to whom he was responding by the way. If you were the head football coach, would you want them spewing that garbage for your team and future players to read? Most of them do not know the difference between their ass and a hole in the ground. Has it ever occurred to you that a lot, if not most, of the content in local pieces is "stolen" straight from Volnation? I wonder why that is.

Who said the local media there champ?

We’re talking national, ESPN, Fox, SI. People such as Herbstreit, Meyer, Howard, and such are all seeing the same issues. They’re all talking about how JG is having issues that he shouldnt be having as a Junior QB in the SEC.

Hell Ryan Leaf of all people was picking apart JG during the GSU game.

He is a liability and he will not win games for this team, you can stick with the whole “these coaches know more than you” all you want but when everyone else can see the same problem and you can’t then maybe you might want to take a step back and get a better perspective.

 

[peerless98]

Who said the local media there champ?

We’re talking national, ESPN, Fox, SI. People such as Herbstreit, Meyer, Howard, and such are all seeing the same issues. They’re all talking about how JG is having issues that he shouldnt be having as a Junior QB in the SEC.

Hell Ryan Leaf of all people was picking apart JG during the GSU game.

He is a liability and he will not win games for this team, you can stick with the whole “these coaches know more than you” all you want but when everyone else can see the same problem and you can’t then maybe you might want to take a step back and get a better perspective.

He was talking to the local media, genius. Unless you have a better QB in your pocket, you might as well get over it! There is not one on this roster right now. Neither I nor anyone else is claiming JG is without issues. You continue to make that strawman argument. Do you think the coaches have a magic wand?

 

[vols40]

I feel sorry for JG at this point because Pruitt keeps rolling him out there

And more than likely JG keeps getting "rolled out" at least through the bam game.

 

[zydane47]

He was talking to the local media, genius. Unless you have a better QB in your pocket, you might as well get over it! There is not one on this roster right now. Neither I nor anyone else is claiming JG is without issues. You continue to make that strawman argument. Do you think the coaches have a magic wand?

And how long have these coaches been with these players? 8 months? Maybe a little less and it appears they never took the time to get either young guy ready just in case.

Seems like that’s the track record for this coaching staff, never having the players prepared.

They don’t need a magic wand to correct the little things. All of this is not straw man as you put it. You and the coaches can’t seem to explain why our QB has took a massive step backwards.

Your argument is that no one else is better, where as we don’t really know cause we’ve only seen BM play for two real series which in one of them he lead us to points AND produced half the amount of offense that JG produced in one half of play.

You know what the definition of insanity is right? We’re living it right now.

 

[BeardedVol]

Who said the local media there champ?

We’re talking national, ESPN, Fox, SI. People such as Herbstreit, Meyer, Howard, and such are all seeing the same issues. They’re all talking about how JG is having issues that he shouldnt be having as a Junior QB in the SEC.

Hell Ryan Leaf of all people was picking apart JG during the GSU game.

He is a liability and he will not win games for this team, you can stick with the whole “these coaches know more than you” all you want but when everyone else can see the same problem and you can’t then maybe you might want to take a step back and get a better perspective.

You'll never get through to him...he was toting water for Butch until he got fired, he will do the same for Pruitt, regardless of what he sees on the field every Saturday.

He's a coach-worshiper, just can't help himself.

How long do we give a new coach before we start taking shots? Does he get 2 years to win a title? 3 years? After all, he's coming in to a much better situation than Butch did.

If we win by a small margin = he almost blew it; fahr Butch!
If we win by a large margin = players stepped up and overcame poor coaching; fahr Butch!
If we lose by a small margin = he blew it; fahr Butch!
If we lose by a large margin = I told you so; fahr Butch!

My thoughts are not far off, OP. I believe Butch's biggest problem is that he overthinks every thing, and he coaches the kids to do the same. Sometimes emotion and gut feelings have to play a part of the game. I believe that is why we seem to play much better when we are losing late in the game, and pure athleticism takes over.

Some of you are so busy trying to think up childish digs that you fail to realize that unless the wheels come completely off this season, Butch will still be the coach next year whether you like it or not. The wheels are a little wobbly BTW IMO!!

A program is more than wins and losses. You just don't replace a coach that has rebuilt a program because he has lost a few he shouldn't have. What coach worth his salt would want to come here after seeing a coach bring a program from the brink of destruction just to be fired? If the program becomes stagnant or begins to decline, then a move should be made. Like it or not, we are much better off with Butch than we were before he came.

 

[Herman Hickman]

Again, a turn over for whatever reason is just as bad. Too eager or too brain dead has the same result.

If this is about the future, then why are you continuing to start a quarterback with neither potential nor ability to lead the offense consistently?

 

[1vol8]

I’ll say this... I’m not sold that putting him in against Georgia and Alabama is the right move. I think we all, including the coaches, know it’s time to move on but this is probably the worst time to make it official. That being said the public criticism of the backups, the putting in BM and pulling him out after making a mistake, the read option for a spread qb, the pass happy approach vs the #9 team in the country and criticizing a kid after a scoring play due to extra effort has not helped in development. Those things can only hurt the process. It amazes me that BM still has his competitive edge at all after being torn down like that. And that alone tells me he’s unbreakable and will be one of the best QBs in college football in a few years. We can either ride it out until then or we can regret it later. The choice is Pruitts.

 

[awaitingawin]

He was talking to the local media, genius. Unless you have a better QB in your pocket, you might as well get over it! There is not one on this roster right now. Neither I nor anyone else is claiming JG is without issues. You continue to make that strawman argument. Do you think the coaches have a magic wand?

Yet something is bad wrong with Pruitt thinking.... Keep rolling that same type thinking out there with JG starting and things may not have hit their lowest points yet.... When people lose interest you may never win them back....

 

[allvol123]

Yet something is bad wrong with Pruitt thinking.... Keep rolling that same type thinking out there with JG starting and things may not have hit their lowest points yet.... When people lose interest you may never win them back....

Nonsense. Sports history is filled with fan bases coming back in droves once the local team turns things around.

 

[peerless98]

Yet something is bad wrong with Pruitt thinking.... Keep rolling that same type thinking out there with JG starting and things may not have hit their lowest points yet.... When people lose interest you may never win them back....

So he should start another QB to keep the fans happy? Come on!

 

[a vol n tears]

What if one of the other QBs start and make a couple of good passes. Then their confidence is raised. This is also possible. They may still lose but as the game goes on, the game will slow down. You could tell against Fl that BM’s adrenaline was running high. After a few hits that will calm down. With no fear of being pulled, they can go to the sideline and think about the next series and process what they just saw. Everyone talks like they are going to throw an interception on every series. At least with Maurer I saw him move players around pre snap to help with blocking. At least he was analyzing what he thought he was seeing. It didn’t look like he was playing scared, seemed he just thought the game was moving faster than it was.

 

[VolforFootball]

"Freshman walk-on wide receiver Isaiah Montgomery made a highlight-reel one-handed catch on an out route that had quarterbacks and his fellow receivers cooing in appreciation."

This just might be the confidence boost that JG needs to take the "next step".

 

[awaitingawin]

Nonsense. Sports history is filled with fan bases coming back in droves once the local team turns things around.

Check out the soccer stadiums....History is filled with lots of stuff but today is a different day....to say people will do the same thing that did years ago is foolish...people's habits change....lots of things are changing..

 

[awaitingawin]

So he should start another QB to keep the fans happy? Come on!

From all I have heard so far from the fans, ex-players, coaches, ex-coaches, sports writers, I am afraid you are in the very small minority of people who think otherwise..
I guess you like the way we started the season also....that was sweet wasn't it...
So with all the stuff going on and the fans see it...poor poor play...poor poor coaching you trust the coaches and dare not second guess them...
Fans know what they see on the field.....they are smarter than what you are giving them credit for....Why you afraid to give BM and Shrout a chance....are you afraid you might go fishing instead of watching a game ?
Most people appear to be tired of seeing the same old thing week after week and want to see a new QB....are you afraid we might lose against Ga if BM or Shrout starts or might lose the rest of our games.....
So you think JG is magically going to change and get better...
Coaches are wrong all the time....Coaches make poor decisions all the time and every Saturday...Some don't work out and move on.....

 

[TJVol95]

Stopped reading at JG with the first team. That’s sad and pathetic!

 

[TJVol95]

If BM goes in and gets stomped by GA, it could finish any hope he ever had of being a good QB. No way in hell anyone on this site is better than our coaches. If you think you are.........

Dobbs turned out fine after starting against Bama. Lots of freshmen QB’s play against big time teams. He’s not Peterman!

 

[TJVol95]

JG still with the 1s.. Oh well

It’s like Pruitt has given up.