Vols Practice Thread #6

#76
#76
1vol8 said:
Exactly. I see your point with the “standard fronts” but what’s really standard when the LBs play downhill all game long with little to no hesitation? So it may appear standard but be anything but. If you’re a defensive coordinator going into the game vs UT right now whats your game plan knowing UTs tendencies? I’m telling my guys that we’ll single cover outside all game long. I’m dropping a safety or 2 in the box for run and short pass (middle) support. And blitzing everyone else outside of outside LBs which will be in a “read and react” mode. I’m also playing my LBs at (hypothetical) 3 yards off the los vs the standard 4. Safetys at 10 rather than 12.
If we had speed on the outside everything changes. Now I’m holding my safetys back for over the top support. Backing my LBs off a yard to protect the short middle pass and corners all of a sudden can’t afford to be “peeking in the backfield”.
All of what we are right now tells defensive coordinators to defend the next 10 yards. Putting 11 defenders in a 10 yard space vs a run is challenging and can seriously effect the run game and the “stats” show negatively on the o line.
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Basically: The pass can help set up the run.
Which in return helps set up longer pass play potential.
 
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#77
#77
LittleVol said:
Basically: The pass can help set up the run.
Which in return helps set up longer pass play potential.
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Exactly! If JG starts showing the willingness to take advantage of 1on1 coverage deep it’ll open up the run game. But playing the way we do (conservative) poses no real threat to anything beyond 10 yards. The Dallas Cowboys got a crash coarse in what I’m saying just last year by cutting Dez. That’s arguably the best o line in the league and Zeke couldn’t do crap until Amari Cooper showed up. Before hand they were being defended the same way we are now.
 
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#79
#79
butchna said:
Battle of the typewriters!
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Clackety-clackety-clack-clack-clack.
"Bolen!?"
"Sir?"
"What kind of guns are those?"
"I think they're old 18th-century era models."
"Take Frisch with you, flank them and silence them with grenades."
"But sir, they're shooting at each other."
"I don't care, they're annoying the hell out of me."
 
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#80
#80
NEVolFan said:
Eh... I am reaching tonight. I watched him throw a few passed and counted 3 sec without a D coming at him. So... nothing here to see, just messing.
Bottom line... he will be fine as long as the front holds up and performs this year.
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You ever think about if he was doing 3 step drops?
 
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munsterlander said:
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#83
#83
1vol8 said:
Exactly! If JG starts showing the willingness to take advantage of 1on1 coverage deep it’ll open up the run game. But playing the way we do (conservative) poses no real threat to anything beyond 10 yards. The Dallas Cowboys got a crash coarse in what I’m saying just last year by cutting Dez. That’s arguably the best o line in the league and Zeke couldn’t do crap until Amari Cooper showed up. Before hand they were being defended the same way we are now.
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And how often did JG have time back there to throw the ball?
 
#85
#85
KeyVol14 said:
And how often did JG have time back there to throw the ball?
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Actually.... you probably don’t want to hear this and know that I don’t have anything against JG but I went back and looked at the Alabama game and counted the time he had. It was 40+ min into the YouTube replay that I didn’t get to 3 Mississippi for the first time. It happened again shortly thereafter as well. I never did an average but overall it wasn’t as bad as I thought. What I found was the o line struggled more in the run game than they did in the pass game. I know I’m about to get hammered but that’s what I seen.
 
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#86
#86
NEVolFan said:
Well... I have to give it to him.... he was on his backside so many times, he counted 10,889 light bulbs in the stadium and identified 125 burnt out bulbs.

Still need to work on his release... way to slow.
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I know its probably been mentioned before but are the wide receivers helping by getting separation to Catch a pass? From what I recall it looked like our wr Corp wore coats last year while they played.... which in reality was the opposing teams defense
 
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#87
#87
1vol8 said:
Actually.... you probably don’t want to hear this and know that I don’t have anything against JG but I went back and looked at the Alabama game and counted the time he had. It was 40+ min into the YouTube replay that I didn’t get to 3 Mississippi for the first time. It happened again shortly thereafter as well. I never did an average but overall it wasn’t as bad as I thought. What I found was the o line struggled more in the run game than they did in the pass game. I know I’m about to get hammered but that’s what I seen.
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Didn't jg get knocked out if that's game Midway through the 2nd quarter lol
 
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1vol8 said:
Exactly! If JG starts showing the willingness to take advantage of 1on1 coverage deep it’ll open up the run game. But playing the way we do (conservative) poses no real threat to anything beyond 10 yards. The Dallas Cowboys got a crash coarse in what I’m saying just last year by cutting Dez. That’s arguably the best o line in the league and Zeke couldn’t do crap until Amari Cooper showed up. Before hand they were being defended the same way we are now.
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Jim Chaney is going to make a huge difference in the way we play on offense!!!! Tyson helton was way in over his head and by the end-of-the-year Pruitt realized that!!!
 
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#92
KeyVol14 said:
Didn't jg get knocked out if that's game Midway through the 2nd quarter lol
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I only watched JG with the count. I wanted to see who was right or wrong in this whole JG/OL debate going on. I watched KC as well but didn’t do the count. The reason he was able to throw 2 tds was his delivery was decisive and on time. That’s been my point all along. It’s not just one or the other. They both share blame but I think it’s more on the lack of speed at WR. JMO
 
#93
#93
BIGAL27 said:
Jim Chaney is going to make a huge difference in the way we play on offense!!!! Tyson helton was way in over his head and by the end-of-the-year Pruitt realized that!!!
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I agree with the Chaney statement but I also feel Helton was forced to run an offense he didn’t believe in. He’s an Air Raid OC so I think he was more suited for the big 12. Helton is a good guy. I like him a lot and I really do think his hands were tied more than we know.
 
#94
#94
1vol8 said:
I agree with the Chaney statement but I also feel Helton was forced to run an offense he didn’t believe in. He’s an Air Raid OC so I think he was more suited for the big 12. Helton is a good guy. I like him a lot and I really do think his hands were tied more than we know.
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Yep.
And Chaney will not allow his own to be.
He'll make the change early on.
 
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#98
chuckb1448 said:
I know its probably been mentioned before but are the wide receivers helping by getting separation to Catch a pass? From what I recall it looked like our wr Corp wore coats last year while they played.... which in reality was the opposing teams defense
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Agree... they need to run better routes to help JG. Too many 50/50 balls last year.
 
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