Vols picked 3rd in the East

#76
#76
(hatvol96 @ Apr 21 said:
Depends on how competitive you are. If you're 2-9, you simply stink. If you go 11-1, with the loss being the result of a tough break, then it's not your year.
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fair enough....
 
#77
#77
(hatvol96 @ Apr 21 said:
My favorite thing about Ford was his act. He acted like this country rube. In actuality, he was an Academic All American who majored in English. There's also a great story about Ford's daughter and Terry Allen, but it's a little too risque' for this board.
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well, then he could 've won an oscar....
 
#78
#78
(hatvol96 @ Apr 21 said:
Yes, a precipitous one.
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There will be a drop-off. You seem to think it will be off the face of the earth. You obviously have a good rep here, but could you provide some justification? I could probably guess, though:

It will be tough to replace Demeco, no doubt. However, those stepping in/returning on D are more than capable keeping that tough defense going. The offensive will be drastically improved (they were very young)...and Brodie Croyle won't be missed as much as you think. Running game will be stout. All receivers are back.

My (early) pick:

1) LSU
2) Auburn
3) Bama
4) Arkeensaw
5) Ole Miss
6) Miss State
 
#81
#81
(TennTide24 @ Apr 24 said:
There will be a drop-off. You seem to think it will be off the face of the earth. You obviously have a good rep here, but could you provide some justification? I could probably guess, though:

It will be tough to replace Demeco, no doubt. However, those stepping in/returning on D are more than capable keeping that tough defense going. The offensive will be drastically improved (they were very young)...and Brodie Croyle won't be missed as much as you think. Running game will be stout. All receivers are back.

My (early) pick:

1) LSU
2) Auburn
3) Bama
4) Arkeensaw
5) Ole Miss
6) Miss State
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I see Alabama this year in much the same situation UT was in last year. They're coming off a successful season and returning a good number of players. On the other hand, there were a number of games that could have gone the other way last year. Also, being a fan that also follows Oklahoma and Miami, I can tell you that the effects of probation aren't over in Tuscaloosa. Lack of depth, coupled with the inevitable balancing out of breaks in close games will cause the Tide to take a considerable fall.
 
#82
#82
(hatvol96 @ Apr 24 said:
I see Alabama this year in much the same situation UT was in last year. They're coming off a successful season and returning a good number of players. On the other hand, there were a number of games that could have gone the other way last year. Also, being a fan that also follows Oklahoma and Miami, I can tell you that the effects of probation aren't over in Tuscaloosa. Lack of depth, coupled with the inevitable balancing out of breaks in close games will cause the Tide to take a considerable fall.
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Hate I agree. There O was horrible last year and I don't see it gatting any better this year. Their lack of O and some very lucky breaks and a solid D helped them win several games last year. It wont happen again. bammer will finish 4 unless arky just melts.
 
#83
#83
(smokedog#3 @ Apr 20 said:
arkansas second in the west, somebody needs to put down the crack pipe.
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yea with who...???Casey Dick, RObert who?...and i love this us being considered somewhat of an underdog
 
#84
#84
(Maize and Blue Fan @ Apr 24 said:
yea with who...???Casey Dick, RObert who?...and i love this us being considered somewhat of an underdog
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They will have one of the most talented back fields in the nation and a good O line coming back. they have a huge sure handed target in Marcus Monk and Casey Dick is a qb that will do what is needed by a team like this and that is not turn it over. The pigs will be a very solid team and one not to be taken lightly.
 
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#85
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 24 said:
They will have one of the most talented back fields in the nation and a good O line coming back. they have a huge sure handed target in Marcus Monk and Casey Dick is a qb that will do what is needed by a team like this and that is not turn it over. The pigs will be a very solid team and one not to be taken lightly.
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yea they will be very experiemced at wide reciever but they are one or two injuries in the reciveving corps or quarterback from a bottom finish in the sec west
 
#86
#86
(VolunteerHillbilly @ Apr 24 said:
I have not heard that Tyrone Prothro was coming back. Any word?
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It's still up in the air as of right now. I think Shula said that a decision would be made in June or July. I'd like to see them go ahead and put a redshirt on him and save him for '07.

hatvol, I am aware that the effects of probation are not over at "bammer." Last year was supposedly to be the worst as far as the sanctions were concerned. They did ok.

And, if you all think the offense will be as bad as it was last year you're fooling yourselves.

Again, there will be a drop-off, but a UT-esque drop off?! No, sir.

 
#87
#87
(TennTide24 @ Apr 24 said:
It's still up in the air as of right now. I think Shula said that a decision would be made in June or July. I'd like to see them go ahead and put a redshirt on him and save him for '07.

hatvol, I am aware that the effects of probation are not over at "bammer." Last year was supposedly to be the worst as far as the sanctions were concerned. They did ok.

And, if you all think the offense will be as bad as it was last year you're fooling yourselves.

Again, there will be a drop-off, but a UT-esque drop off?! No, sir.
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Record wise, maybe not. Given the disgraceful home schedule you play, 6 wins should be automatic.
 
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#89
Bammer home schedule

9-2-06 HAWAI'I
9-9-06 VANDERBILT
9-16-06 LOUISIANA-MONROE

10-7-06 DUKE
10-14-06 MISSISSIPPI

10-28-06 FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
11-4-06 MISSISSIPPI STATE

11-18-06 AUBURN

Anyone want to disagree with Hat on this one?
 
#90
#90
(volinasheville @ Apr 24 said:
Bammer home schedule

9-2-06 HAWAI'I
9-9-06 VANDERBILT
9-16-06 LOUISIANA-MONROE

10-7-06 DUKE
10-14-06 MISSISSIPPI

10-28-06 FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
11-4-06 MISSISSIPPI STATE

11-18-06 AUBURN

Anyone want to disagree with Hat on this one?
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What if the Auburn game was still played in Birmingham? Can you imagine being a season ticket holder and paying for that slate of games?
 
#91
#91
(hatvol96 @ Apr 24 said:
Record wise, maybe not. Given the disgraceful home schedule you play, 6 wins should be automatic.
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I miscounted. 7 wins should be automatic.
 
#92
#92
(hatvol96 @ Apr 24 said:
I miscounted. 7 wins should be automatic.
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I don't know, that Florida International game is iffy at best. :eek:lol:
 
#93
#93
(Maize and Blue Fan @ Apr 24 said:
yea they will be very experiemced at wide reciever but they are one or two injuries in the reciveving corps or quarterback from a bottom finish in the sec west
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Their strength is in their O line and Back field. They have one of the top young WR coming in with Mustain and are utilizing the TE more in the passing game as well. I'm telling you all, teh pigs will be a lot tougher this year than in years past. Unless they melt down they will finish no lower than 3rd in the west and probably 2nd.
 
#94
#94
(hatvol96 @ Apr 24 said:
I miscounted. 7 wins should be automatic.
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Thank you for proving my point. That is why I say it won't be that bad a drop-off. We'll win 7 automatic and one or two on the road. :p

That's why I quote Dickie V earlier in reference to the home/out of conference schedule as "cupcake city."

Win at home...couple on the road...8-9 wins.

;)
 
#95
#95
(TennTide24 @ Apr 24 said:
Thank you for proving my point. That is why I say it won't be that bad a drop-off. We'll win 7 automatic and one or two on the road. :p

That's why I quote Dickie V earlier in reference to the home/out of conference schedule as "cupcake city."

Win at home...couple on the road...8-9 wins.

;)
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I tell you what bammer, the pigs will be a very tough team this year. They have a back field that is very, very good. The kids have speed, size, quickness and hands. Plus by the end of the year their D was jelling quite nicely. Tough win for anyone.
 
#96
#96
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 24 said:
I tell you what bammer, the pigs will be a very tough team this year. They have a back field that is very, very good. The kids have speed, size, quickness and hands. Plus by the end of the year their D was jelling quite nicely. Tough win for anyone.
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I don't disagree, Beefer. They will be solid, but I don't see the pigs showing the amount of improvement to contend with '06's LSU and/or Auburn.

I am of the opinion that nobody will stop LSU unless Sling Blade Carl (Miles) screws it up.

Plus, Arkansas is learning their new high school offense, remember? :biggrin2:
 
#97
#97
(TennTide24 @ Apr 24 said:
I don't disagree, Beefer. They will be solid, but I don't see the pigs showing the amount of improvement to contend with '06's LSU and/or Auburn.

I am of the opinion that nobody will stop LSU unless Sling Blade Carl (Miles) screws it up.

Plus, Arkansas is learning their new high school offense, remember? :biggrin2:
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I agree with you totally on LSU. They have the talent to win it all and I think the only thing that will get in their way is old "biscuits and mustard, mmhhmm" Miles.
But the barn is still a ? in my mind on the O side of the ball.
 
#98
#98
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 24 said:
I agree with you totally on LSU. They have the talent to win it all and I think the only thing that will get in their way is old "biscuits and mustard, mmhhmm" Miles.
But the barn is still a ? in my mind on the O side of the ball.
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I can understand that about the Barn. I am just basing that off short-round's coaching ability. If Borges can turn Jason Campbell into a great QB then he's just short of turning water into wine. If he can get solid play out of his o-line they will be good. Especially with Irons and Cox in the backfield.

 
#99
#99
(TennTide24 @ Apr 24 said:
I can understand that about the Barn. I am just basing that off short-round's coaching ability. If Borges can turn Jason Campbell into a great QB then he's just short of turning water into wine. If he can get solid play out of his o-line they will be good. Especially with Irons and Cox in the backfield.
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I agree on Campbell. But I still have doubts. Just my opinion but I think either the barn or LSU will drop this year further than most. I think one of them winds up 3rd.

Another question is how good is Ole Miss gonna be with the talent they brought in. They got a qb that we know a little about. The kid can fly and has a good enough arm to not throw too many ints. They maybe a surprise team in the SEC along with the pigs.
 
#100
#100
Getting back to the 3rd in the east thing, let's analyze everyone's schedule in the East next year and think this thing through logically. I'm not going ot pretend to know who will win each and every game but I think we can agree on most of the toss-ups keeping in mind that both the Vols and the Gamecocks go into the season as something of unknown commodities with the potential to make some noise or lay an egg. The first thing that jumps out at me is that UGA has four give-me conference games, SC has three, and UF and UT each have two. Next I strikes me that SC gets four of its five toss ups at home, depending on whether you call the Cocktail party a home game for the Gators UF and UT each get three toss ups at home and three away, the only toss up for UGA at home is UT. I'm still trying to figure out what this data means but my initial impression is that UGA and SC are probably the front runners for the east based on scheduling.

Florida:
at Tennessee TOSS UP
Kentucky WIN
Alabama TOSS UP
Louisiana St. TOSS UP
at Auburn TOSS UP
vs Georgia TOSS UP
at Vanderbilt WIN
South Carolina TOSS UP

Georgia:
at South Carolina TOSS UP
at Mississippi WIN
Tennessee TOSS UP
Vanderbilt WIN
Mississippi State WIN
vs Florida TOSS UP
at Kentucky WIN
at Auburn TOSS UP

Kentucky:
Ole Miss TOSS UP
at Florida LOSS
South Carolina LOSS
at LSU LOSS
at Mississippi State TOSS UP
Georgia LOSS
Vanderbilt TOSS UP
at Tennessee LOSS

South Carolina:
at Mississippi State WIN
Georgia TOSS UP
Auburn TOSS UP
at Kentucky WIN
at Vanderbilt WIN
Tennessee TOSS UP
Arkansas TOSS UP
at Florida TOSS UP

Tennessee:
Florida TOSS UP
at Georgia TOSS UP
Alabama TOSS UP
at South Carolina TOSS UP
LSU TOSS UP
at Arkansas TOSS UP
at Vanderbilt WIN
Kentucky WIN

Vanderbilt:
at Alabama LOSS
Arkansas LOSS
at Ole Miss TOSS UP
at Georgia LOSS
South Carolina LOSS
Florida LOSS
at Kentucky TOSS UP
Tennessee LOSS


 
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