Vols out of Taxslayer Bowl consideration

[nash101]

Then by all means we should be playing NC or TCU.

 

[TrueOrange]

I would be interested in a Music City Bowl against Miami, Air Force, Utah, Pitt, or equal. You could call it the "disappointed fans " bowl.

Music City pretty much has to be a Big 10 team this year.

Also, there's not an SEC vs PAC 12 tie-in bowl.

 

[TrueOrange]

You all keep bringing up the attendance thing but if you are a season ticket holder you got a text after the Missouri game about bowl tickets. If you agreed to buy bowl tickets you are locked because they will automatic charge your card. so UT has already sold X amount of tickets.

The bowl tickets aren't all made up of season ticket owners for each team, though, no?

 

[TrueOrange]

Then no UF in the Citrus if thats the case -- they were blown out last year

The Citrus is the only non-New Year's 6 SEC Bowl that doesn't have input from the SEC front offices.

Simply put, unlike the others, the Citrus gets to pick who the Citrus wants.

(And blowout or not, it was the biggest attendance that game had seen since 2008.)

 

[TrueOrange]

1) I didn't comment at all on the worth of Kentucky presently, just your inconsistencies and revisionism.

2) We can speculate all day, depending on how you frame the decision matrix, the answer could be different. Remember, these selections are arguably business decisions as much as, if not more, than anything else.

Try this one:

Team a and team b are tied for 2nd in the SEC east. Team a has a one game better record, and beat team b in the head to head match-up pretty soundly. Team a continually fills a stadium that is about 1.7x larger than team b. Similarly, team a averaged about 4.7 million viewers per game, had gameday at two of their games (with a high seasonal viewership of 6.6million and a low of 1.52million) compared to team b that averaged 2 million (with a high of 3.2million viewers and low of about 400,000 viewers).

Team a averaged more viewers per game than team b attracted on its best Saturday (given the data I could find through week 12).

So, finally, without relying purely on your unfounded conjecture about who might attend a bowl game, and you are in the seat picking these games (assuming the rules even allow you to consider both of these teams for the same slot), who do you choose?

Pretty simple, right? Especially if you have to rely on data and not emotion to back up a point.

And honestly, the fact that either is "2nd in the SEC East" doesn't really factor into the selection at all either. The bowls look at and decide based upon overall record, not conference record.

If you had (1)an 8-4 team that finished 2nd in its division at 6-2 and (2) a 9-3 team that finished 3rd in its division at 5-3....they're more inclined to take the 9-3 team not the 8-4 one.


(unless there's a fanbase or brand size issue, then that's a different story)

 

[TrueOrange]

Birmingham Bowl - I'll host a tailgate

You'll be the only Vol fan or player there though.

 

[TrueOrange]

It wasn't that bad in 2010, I don't think

He meant 2000.

The 2010 TEN-DAL game was played in October.

 

[TrueOrange]

Music City, Belk, or Outback then

We won't go to the Outback two years in a row in the new system.

It'll be Music City, Belk, Liberty, or very outside chance Citrus (as the Citrus will be able to pick whichever 4-loss team it wants out of UF, LSU, A&M, and UT, presuming UF loses).

 

[IknoxvolsI]

This...as if calling it the Gator Bowl made it more prestigious.

I wish it was still called the Gator bowl. And, the Citrus was the tangerine bowl. And, the Sugar bowl was still USF&G!

 

[508mikey]

I wish it was still called the Gator bowl. And, the Citrus was the tangerine bowl. And, the Sugar bowl was still USF&G!

it is called the gator bowl on the rings

 

[jasonvol18]

From what I heard tonight from a person who is friends with someone on the inside at one of the SEC bowl locations (yes a friend of a friend and no I'm not saying which bowl the friend works for) is Butch refuses to play NC and TCU. He has made this clear to the bowl committees. Thus, this is why UT is out of the running for the Taxslayer Bowl and probably the Liberty Bowl. The way things are looking it's down to the Music City or Belk Bowl.

Just putting it out there. I know this is my first post ever so you can take it with a grain of salt if you wish. Just repeating what I heard. I guess time will tell if the source is reliable.

Well to be honest whether it is true or not Butch doesn't have any authority and right now what he wants or thinks means little to nothing. He needs to focus on and worry about fixing the close to the bottom of the conference coaching staff he currently has. Making coaching hires that will better this team and focusing on the potential dumpsterfire of a recruiting class that we may be headed towards if things don't turn around quickly. Have a strong feeling we haven't come close to seeing the last of the decommitt's in this class which wouldn't be an issue if we were making upgrades on all of them. But so far that hasn't been the case. And DT is the absolute last position we need to lose commitment's at unless like I said they were following those up with commitment's from much more highly rated players. Have a feeling it just keeps getting worse from here. Gotta truly wonder what Butch's motivation is to go out and sell this program to players and their family. One of those situations where if he was pi$$ed off enough he could do some serious damage before this time next year. And he is one of those I wouldn't put past doing that.

 

[VolDaddy61]

Maybe we can get the Famous Idaho Potato bowl. I hear it's nice this time of year.

There's nothing nice about Boise this time of year.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Word down here is that their top choice is unfortunately a Florida vs. Miami match up.

I'm not a fan of that at all. It's going to be bad enough losing 3 straight games to end the season again, but having 2 out of 3 come at the hands of in-state rivals would be even worse. Our recruiting, which already trails both FSU and Miami, will likely take an even bigger hit, and Richt would be licking his chops to send a message on the same field he had so many frustrations against us at UGA. It's not like they even need the extra motivation, though, because Miami already hates us with a passion and feels we try to duck playing them. We're one of two games (FSU being the other) for which their pathetic fan base will actually show up.

It's just a bad set up. I hope the Taxslayer representatives understand that Gator Nation wants no part of this game and won't support it. We already play UGA there, so it's a repeat trip for a lot of us as it is. We have no incentive to go back up there and get abused by the Thug U fans - they treat us like crap and we aren't going to put up with it. So, the committee can answer to all the disappointed Jacksonville hotels, restaurants, etc., if they make us play Miami. We aren't coming.

Let UK, Tennessee, Arkansas, or Auburn deal with The U. We'd much prefer the Outback against a Big Ten team.

Little cheese with that?

 

[82_VOL_83]

If you went to the Christmas game Titans vs. Cowboys way back when, you would never wish for late December football game in Nashville. Unless you have a box.

This X 2. Went to two of those. No mas!!!!