Vols new Offensive game plan

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I haven't read anywhere what type of offense CJP plans on installing. I hope we go back to more of a traditional offense. I've had enough of this gimmicky offense to last a 100 years. I understand if we put some trick plays in. But I'm over the type CBJ had. Also, I was listening to NFL radio and they were talking about how so many NFL linemen now have to relearn the game once they get to the pro's because of how the college game is training them to not be traditional lineman. And that it is also part of the reason for injuries once they get to the bigs.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
Mods please merge if needed.

I haven't read anywhere what type of offense CJP plans on installing. I hope we go back to more of a traditional offense. I've had enough of this gimmicky offense to last a 100 years. I understand if we put some trick plays in. But I'm over the type CBJ had. Also, I was listening to NFL radio and they were talking about how so many NFL linemen now have to relearn the game once they get to the pro's because of how the college game is training them to not be traditional lineman. And that it is also part of the reason for injuries once they get to the bigs.
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Balanced is what he said. Would be nice to see a 50/50 run/pass team.
 
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Obviously you need a balance attack. However a road grader line and a two back set to close out games would be awesome
 
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Step 1: Find offensive linemen. Cupboard is virtually bare next Fall. Huge area of concern.

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Who cares if NFL linemen have to relearn the game? I doubt if successful college offenses will change to suit the NFL.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
Mods please merge if needed.

I haven't read anywhere what type of offense CJP plans on installing. I hope we go back to more of a traditional offense. I've had enough of this gimmicky offense to last a 100 years. I understand if we put some trick plays in. But I'm over the type CBJ had. Also, I was listening to NFL radio and they were talking about how so many NFL linemen now have to relearn the game once they get to the pro's because of how the college game is training them to not be traditional lineman. And that it is also part of the reason for injuries once they get to the bigs.
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Well, there is no way of knowing until they make an official announcement of the staff, and spring practice happens. But I agree with you on training O-Line. But in our case, they didn't wait to get to the league. We seemed to break ours before they could be eligible for the draft.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Step 1: Find offensive linemen. Cupboard is virtually bare next Fall. Huge area of concern.
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Shallow for sure. However, no one can seem to find the actual status of Chance Hall. He would be a difference maker at tackle.

If you had Richmond and Hall at tackle with Smith and Johnson at guard, that's a lot of talent. Definitely got to solve, but Locklear looks like an early candidate.
 
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Mick said:
Balanced is what he said. Would be nice to see a 50/50 run/pass team.
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CBJ was actually a pretty balanced offense. It just wasn't effective at UT without Josh Dobbs.

Leeleesteeth said:
Who cares if NFL linemen have to relearn the game? I doubt if successful college offenses will change to suit the NFL.
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College teams will care and change if it starts affecting recruiting.
 
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Something that I'm going to watch closely is how much of the Brohm/WKU offense (Tyson) Helton mixes into the USC/(Clay) Helton offense. I believe we will still have some spread concepts sprinkled in to take advantage of the recruits we've gotten the last few years.
 
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Zues1 said:
Obviously you need a balance attack. However a road grader line and a two back set to close out games would be awesome
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Well, I prefer a road grader line that averages no more than 3 sacks per game in pass protection. It seemed our line, which stayed injured could hardly run block or pass block. That is why our attack looked like a retreat all season long.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
CBJ was actually a pretty balanced offense. It just wasn't effective at UT without Josh Dobbs.
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Then his offense sucked. If you can't adapt your offense to fit the players you have and try to shoehorn players in that don't fit, you need to start over.

Let's face it, Dobbs could make practically any offense look good. His natural instincts for finding and exploiting paths to gain yardage will likely never be challenged at UT.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Then his offense sucked. If you can't adapt your offense to fit the players you have and try to shoehorn players in that don't fit, you need to start over.

Let's face it, Dobbs could make practically any offense look good. His natural instincts for finding and exploiting paths to gain yardage will likely never be challenged at UT.
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I agree on all points. I was not defending CBJ's offense. I was just pointing out that its weakness wasn't in pass/run balance, as the poster I responded to seemed to be indicating. Its weaknesses were much more serious and catastrophic than that.
 
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just hope the recruiting can give the coach the luxury of doing whatever he wants to...offensively and defensively...:)

GO VOLS!
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I agree on all points. I was not defending CBJ's offense. I was just pointing out that its weakness wasn't in pass/run balance, as the poster I responded to seemed to be indicating. Its weaknesses were much more serious and catastrophic than that.
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Did not say anything about CBJ's offense. Did I misspell something?
 
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Good discussion that quickly turned to the relevant issue, offensive line. No reason to branch out from that problem yet.
 
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Here's a great offensive game plan...score more points than the other team. :crazy:

Sorry, had to throw my unwarranted two cents in.
 
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Mick said:
Did not say anything about CBJ's offense. Did I misspell something?
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You said, "would be nice to see", as though we hadn't.

Did I not type "seemed to be" saying that we hadn't had a balanced offense?

If that's not what you were getting at, so be it. It's really not important enough to get snippy.
 
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I never played Oline and don't really under stand all involved. I have a question for those who do. Could a different scheme and o style help the linemen we have?
 
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Kamara has single-handedly changed the kind of RB's the NFL is going to be looking for now. The duel-threat option.
 
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As for the O-line, in order to prepare these big fellas for the NFL, they'll have to use zone blocking schemes. It's what Butch was attempting to teach these guys, but has to be properly coached and thoroughly ingrained into their heads. It requires far more discipline and varying techniques to clean out one's area...different from mano-a-mano-only (opposite situation for D-linemen is staying home to execute run-stopping against triple-option teams like GT). Let's lean toward expecting an Alabama-looking, pro-style offense with some west coast-ish spread formations and lots of motion to offset shifting defenses and to create mis-matches. It'll be balanced based upon game situations and to analysis as to how the defense has previously reacted. In other words: Far more cerebral than what we've been seeing the last decade.
 
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