Vols Film Study: Looking at Dobbs’ Interceptions

[Orange_Vol1321]

What a nasty, uncalled for response. Dougie's post is absolutely correct. Makes me think you're the one whose never played any ball, frankly.

Not nasty or uncalled for. Ace actually said the same thing I did before my post that I didn't read before my post and the negative butch nancy that dougie is basically laughed him out of the thread.

I'll say it again, if you or dougie thinks it doesn't affect your team when your 5* #1 RB tells the coaches "I'm not going back in because I just don't want to" I have some ocean front property to sale you in Arkansas.

Aimes was in to give Kelly a breather when he caused the Dobbs fumble because of Hurds chitty attitude of not going back in. Which is why Dobbs was seen giving Hurd the buisness on the sideline.

 

[HollowaytoSeivers]

I love these posts. They really show that Debord isn't completely at fault a lot of the time. Execution is a major issue.

Agree completely. However, every time I hear comments about a team's execution, I'm reminded of the great John McKay. When he was coaching the expansion era Tampa Bay Bucs, a reporter asked about his team's execution. McKay replied, "I'm all for it."

 

[QuickSmurf]

What frustrates me with Dobbs is that it isnt that he has a weak arm or cant throw at all. He can make all the throws. He is just inconsistent. I personally believe that it has to do with his foot work, he tries to do too much sometimes and that the o line regularly lets pass rushers get into his face.

 

[spyfish007]

Add the fact he's thrown multiple interceptions, which breaks self confidence, so that inhibits fast decision making by second guessing yourself. Which leads to delayed decision making and more interceptions. Vicious cycle.

Excellent point

 

[peppervol]

Not nasty or uncalled for. Ace actually said the same thing I did before my post that I didn't read before my post and the negative butch nancy that dougie is basically laughed him out of the thread.

I'll say it again, if you or dougie thinks it doesn't affect your team when your 5* #1 RB tells the coaches "I'm not going back in because I just don't want to" I have some ocean front property to sale you in Arkansas.

Aimes was in to give Kelly a breather when he caused the Dobbs fumble because of Hurds chitty attitude of not going back in. Which is why Dobbs was seen giving Hurd the buisness on the sideline.

All dougie was posting is that Dobbs was making those sh---y throws before the Hurd mess showed up. Doesn't have a damn thing to do with whether or not he's played any organized ball.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

All dougie was posting is that Dobbs was making those sh---y throws before the Hurd mess showed up. Doesn't have a damn thing to do with whether or not he's played any organized ball.

We didn't lose because of Dobbs. It isn't tennis. It's a team effort and it was very clear something was off with the team.

 

[Volsick]

I good ambassador for TN football, has poured his heart and soul into TN football and has a bright future outside of football. As far as a QB he is average, good legs and elusive but extremely inconsistent with passing and too many turnovers, ints and fumbles.

Really wish him the best. He just is not a very good QB.

Great all around athlete. Not a consistent passer. It's not his fault Debord doesn't want him being a runner.

 

[peppervol]

We didn't lose because of Dobbs. It isn't tennis. It's a team effort and it was very clear something was off with the team.

Your post and responses have nothing to do with dougie's post OR mine. You really missed your calling, Dr. Freud....

 

[AM64]

Although nobody has really talked about it - if you watch the SC game - Dobbs had the same look on his face and attitude and Hurd.

Dobbs, while typically very energetic and passionate and engaging with his teammates was none of the above. He was secluded, isolated, and an individual.

To me - this is a significant issue. I hadn't seen this attitude from a UT QB since Tyler Bray vs Kentucky.

When the camera went to the sideline, most (really seemed like all) of the players had that look for whatever reason. It looked like the team was there physically, but that was about it. Hopefully, the fire will be back for the remaining games.

 

[AM64]

The only reason it is the coaches fault is because they haven't pulled Dobbs. My guess is they feel they would lose the team. The other reason to blame coaches is the lack of play calling adjustment within the scheme. They could easily get there within this scheme, but chose not to do it.

Ability to make fast decisions just might not be possible for Dobbs. My background is engineering and I do account management/sales today. I bring this up to make one point. I have seen plenty of engineers over analyze and not able to make a decision let alone a fast decision. We call this analysis paralysis. As another poster said it is like he can't see the play develop or maybe he doesn't trust it. His running is highly instinctual where his passing is thoguht based. Maybe he doesn't have enough reps to develop the instincts. Maybe he is spending that time studying engineering. The extra time holding the ball, analyzing, doesn't make the OL look good either. I am not sure what happened during the 2nd half of the Florida game, but his back was hitting the top of his drop and the ball was coming out on time. Most other games it does not come out on time.

Completely agree. I'm an engineer and my wife is a nurse - we respond completely differently to things. You would expect Dobbs to become more analytical and make more engineering type decisions as he progresses in school - it's only natural for someone trained to look for everything rather than make snap decisions. Probably why engineers tend to hate business types and vice versa, too.

 

[spyfish007]

Probably why engineers tend to hate business types and vice versa, too.

I hear you. I am the one that joined the dark side..... my credibility is suspect....

 

[Dougie_D]

The only reason it is the coaches fault is because they haven't pulled Dobbs. My guess is they feel they would lose the team. The other reason to blame coaches is the lack of play calling adjustment within the scheme. They could easily get there within this scheme, but chose not to do it.

Ability to make fast decisions just might not be possible for Dobbs. My background is engineering and I do account management/sales today. I bring this up to make one point. I have seen plenty of engineers over analyze and not able to make a decision let alone a fast decision. We call this analysis paralysis. As another poster said it is like he can't see the play develop or maybe he doesn't trust it. His running is highly instinctual where his passing is thoguht based. Maybe he doesn't have enough reps to develop the instincts. Maybe he is spending that time studying engineering. The extra time holding the ball, analyzing, doesn't make the OL look good either. I am not sure what happened during the 2nd half of the Florida game, but his back was hitting the top of his drop and the ball was coming out on time. Most other games it does not come out on time.

Because a lot of the players weren't "covered". Maybe Dobbs doesn't have a feel for his WR's? I never hear of him and the WRs working on their timing.

 

[norrislakevol]

Regardless of all the conversation in this thread; There is noooooo way that a senior QB should be throwing passes in the dirt and throwing high, or behind his receivers on a regular basis. The OL performance doesn't help, but still.

 

[Dougie_D]

Not nasty or uncalled for. Ace actually said the same thing I did before my post that I didn't read before my post and the negative butch nancy that dougie is basically laughed him out of the thread.

I'll say it again, if you or dougie thinks it doesn't affect your team when your 5* #1 RB tells the coaches "I'm not going back in because I just don't want to" I have some ocean front property to sale you in Arkansas.

Aimes was in to give Kelly a breather when he caused the Dobbs fumble because of Hurds chitty attitude of not going back in. Which is why Dobbs was seen giving Hurd the buisness on the sideline.

Yeah, I'm sure Dobbs was upset... but AFTER the play. And if one guy is affecting his PLAYING ABILITY and his FOCUS on the game, then maybe Dobbs should have been pulled out.

Dobbs has made mistakes before and I doubt Hurd was in a bad mood. Can't blame Dobbs inaccuracy based on one event.

 

[Dougie_D]

When the camera went to the sideline, most (really seemed like all) of the players had that look for whatever reason. It looked like the team was there physically, but that was about it. Hopefully, the fire will be back for the remaining games.

Honestly, I wonder if some players watched the GA/FL game. Let's be honest.. when GA lost the way they did against FL it was a let down. It wasn't a "yes, now all we need to do is beat South Carolina and we are still in drivers seat" it was more like "Dang, we need some extra help"

For whatever reason, the team had lack of focus early on. It's like they wanted to get the game over with.

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

I have wondered if the challenge of maintaining academic excellence has had an effect of Josh's availability to devote to play and film study. His major is a demanding one, and a student wants A's not B's. I believe that Butch is very loyal to players that work hard and demonstrate the highest qualities of the student-athlete. How do you pull a QB that is flubbing the occasional play when he is doing what is the important thing in the classroom?
As a parent, would you want a coach who puts football over academics? What a tightrope walk this must be for a coach. Or, maybe not.

 

[NCFisher]

I think it now obvious Dobbs should have played baseball to improve his football.

 

[AM64]

I have wondered if the challenge of maintaining academic excellence has had an effect of Josh's availability to devote to play and film study. His major is a demanding one, and a student wants A's not B's. I believe that Butch is very loyal to players that work hard and demonstrate the highest qualities of the student-athlete. How do you pull a QB that is flubbing the occasional play when he is doing what is the important thing in the classroom?
As a parent, would you want a coach who puts football over academics? What a tightrope walk this must be for a coach. Or, maybe not.

Absolutely I would want a coach who stresses academics over sports. That happens to be what college is all about, but people do keep forgetting that. However, and unfortunately, there are plenty of academic paths leading to degrees that are basically I went to college, but I didn't prepare for anything.

 

[revjayp]

Did Seth dissect the last play against A&M? I'd love to hear the analysis on that. Most of us know that Dobbs made a bad decision but I've heard some blame Wolfe as well.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Regardless of all the conversation in this thread; There is noooooo way that a senior QB should be throwing passes in the dirt and throwing high, or behind his receivers on a regular basis. The OL performance doesn't help, but still.

This^.... what was Debord supposed to call against SC with Dobbs struggling as bad as he was?