Vols Fans= 2 year olds

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Seriously! It is like leaving TN with my 2 and 3 year old for Disney World, after talking to them all week about how long the trip is, and then having them ask me "are we there yet" when we get on the interstate.

Someone tell me where we have not met expectations yet? Anyone who thought we would be in the game against Ala, Oregon, Florida and LSU at half? If we were playing much better against ALA, we should be ashamed of the SEC. We are a lower talent team, full of freshmen and sophmores, with an undersized walkon leading our D, and our 3rd coaching staff in 3 years, in the toughest conference in the country, and playing the best team in the nation as part of ourr OOC. Get real!
Fire Dooley? Fire Chaney? How bout we man up as a fan base and get behind our staff and players. We should expect a winning team, but in time.
Some of our fans seem determined to turn us into the Alabama of the 90's, the most untrealistic fanbase in history.
 
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How about Dooley get some control over his own team?

The W's and L's are understandable, but he is failing at things he CAN control, which is an indicator of things to come.

We can't sub, hell we can't even run a field goal block.

Players on IR are getting personal fouls, it's a damn mess and there is no way you can say otherwise. You ask people to be reasonable, how about you start it off?
 
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Not sure what you mean about the personal foul. #1 Martin did nothing to warrant a flag. #2 How is that Dooley's fault.
You have a point about thye disorganization, but only slightly. Dooley did not have those issues at La tech. The most likely source of those issues is having a boatload of guys incrucial roles, playing in front of 100k, that were playing in front of 800 people last year. No other team in the country has as many freshmen playing crucial roles on a stage like this.
By the way, you do remember the endless penalties under the last few Fulmer years?
 
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dooley can't control them because they have no intelligence. They came to Tenn for 1 thing--Kiffin promised them they'd be in the NFL in 2 years. They could care less about this team or Dooley and his program. Just let Dooley get his guys in and then you can call for his head if THEY don't perform.
 
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I'm a little surprised you thought a 2 and 3yo would have a solid grasp on time and distance.

The Tall Gguy said:
dooley can't control them because they have no intelligence. They came to Tenn for 1 thing--Kiffin promised them they'd be in the NFL in 2 years. They could care less about this team or Dooley and his program. Just let Dooley get his guys in and then you can call for his head if THEY don't perform.
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even Kiffin knows it takes 3 years before going to the NFL
 
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Don't want to argue with you, only reasion with you. The amount of pressure this team is under is unbelievable. The reason is this-As undersized, underexperienced and under talented we are, the players know that we must be PERFECT to compete with the ALA,ORE, LSU, and FLA s. That is an immense burden on players, AND new coaches, who also are trying to prove themselves. If we have these issues next year, your point may be more valid, but give the players a chance to get more comfortable. 90% of these guys went from being the best guy on a good HS team, to being the smallest, slowest guy on a team with no confidence playing against guys who will be earning paychecks on Sunday.
 
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I'm a little surprised you thought a 2 and 3yo would have a solid grasp on time and distance.
That was my point( everything that is really far to my little girl is "five minutes".) They I understood, it is the adults on here who baffle me.:)
 
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Props to the original poster. I completely agree. I realize, as a fan base, that it sucks being a Tennessee fan right now. It seems as though I lose a little but more pride with each embarrassing loss the team gets handed. We all knew this team was in a fragile state before the season started. All of this "Fire Dooley, Chaney, and Wilcox" crap has got to go. It is amazing how talented players with depth can make a coach look really good. Point being, our coaches have very little to work with trying to compete with elite college football teams who have been restocking elite talent for years. This is Dooley's first year. Let's try to work on tempering our expectations a little bit to the reality of the situation. Speaking of 2-3 year olds, I feel like we have a few of them on this site. I'm just surprised they know how to work the keyboard.
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OWB said:
Umm, yes he did.
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You may be right, as I am not sure that I saw the entire replay. I thought he just pushed the guy away from our player, and not very hard. Am I wrong? Like I said, the part I saw looked very minor on both parties, but was occupied when they showed the replay.
 
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There is a difference between being 2-5 which a good number expected and being 2-5 with 3 blowout losses and another loss due to total coaching negligence. In most of our games we're outgained 2-1 or very close to that. We're not improving in many categories.

It's not inordinate to expect improvement while still losing. Well, it is if you're stuck as an acolyte of Fulmer.
 
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Just remember, most of the fans on this board got what they asked for when they wanted Change. I wander if the fan base would be happy if DD would have winning seasons 15 of the next 17 years, a national championship and several SEC Championsips and of course lets say win 75% of his games over that period.
 
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WinchesterVol said:
Just remember, most of the fans on this board got what they asked for when they wanted Change. I wander if the fan base would be happy if DD would have winning seasons 15 of the next 17 years, a national championship and several SEC Championsips and of course lets say win 75% of his games over that period.
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Oh great, this crap again.

Just because Dooley is probably not the right guy doesn't mean that Fulmer was.
 
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I knew it was going to be a down year. But these losses have been blowouts, minus the LSU game. The biggest problem is I haven't seen improvement from week to week. That's my issue with this coaching staff.
 
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WinchesterVol said:
Just remember, most of the fans on this board got what they asked for when they wanted Change. I wander if the fan base would be happy if DD would have winning seasons 15 of the next 17 years, a national championship and several SEC Championsips and of course lets say win 75% of his games over that period.
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Yeah, I respect the accomplishments that Fulmer made over the longevity of his career, but he did get lax towards the end of his tenure and it was time for he and UT to part ways. Where Tennessee made the mistake, was Lane Kiffin.
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OK DC Vol, what are your expectations for the Vols, realisticly speaking of course, and yes this crap again, Michigan fans didn't like winning 9 or 10 games a year and wanted change and they got the same results as Tennessee. Florida State handled the change with class with a coach in waiting on staff for a smooth transition with the players. Kentucky did the coach in waiting and are playing better this year than last. Texas has its coach in waiting for Mack Brown to retire. Instead of firing Fulmer, Hamilton should have done what other major universities are doing in finding a replacement before its time. Instead we fire one of the most respected coaches in America and hired a weasel that I am sure you fell in love with and now we have a green coach that is going to take his lumps because of the disaster he inherited and his lack of experience and players exiting the program because of the turmoil caused by disgruntled fans and an incompetent Athletic Director.
 
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I agree with everything said. College programs are seeing a lot more Head coach in waiting bc the transition is a whole lot smoother. Tennessee should have done that, although I am not sure Fulmer would have hired them due to his job insecurity.
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WinchesterVol said:
OK DC Vol, what are your expectations for the Vols, realisticly speaking of course, and yes this crap again, Michigan fans didn't like winning 9 or 10 games a year and wanted change and they got the same results as Tennessee. Florida State handled the change with class with a coach in waiting on staff for a smooth transition with the players. Kentucky did the coach in waiting and are playing better this year than last. Texas has its coach in waiting for Mack Brown to retire. Instead of firing Fulmer, Hamilton should have done what other major universities are doing in finding a replacement before its time. Instead we fire one of the most respected coaches in America and hired a weasel that I am sure you fell in love with and now we have a green coach that is going to take his lumps because of the disaster he inherited and his lack of experience and players exiting the program because of the turmoil caused by disgruntled fans and an incompetent Athletic Director.
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Vicki,

Your husband lost his touch and you know his ego wouldnt have let that happen. To your husband, he was Tennessee and he was going to stay come hell or high water. Your husband has no one to blame but himself for his sudden forced departure. Have a nice day, and tell Phil we appreciate everything he did for Tennessee while he was here, except for the last 5 years.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Vicki,

Your husband lost his touch and you know his ego wouldnt have let that happen. To your husband, he was Tennessee and he was going to stay come hell or high water. Your husband has no one to blame but himself for his sudden forced departure. Have a nice day, and tell Phil we appreciate everything he did for Tennessee while he was here, except for the last 5 years.
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Let it be known, CountVolcula is my favorite poster on VN.
 
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WinchesterVol said:
...now we have a green coach that is going to take his lumps because of the disaster he inherited and his lack of experience and players exiting the program because of the turmoil caused by disgruntled fans and an incompetent Athletic Director.
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ABSOLUTELY! Most of those "fans" learned their football from X-box or other video games and learned to talk smack from Jim Rome. Just remember, if they weren't disgruntled they would be gruntled. There is no computer game for NCAA Athletic Director 2010 so they don't even realize that the real problem is in that office.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Vicki,

Your husband lost his touch and you know his ego wouldnt have let that happen. To your husband, he was Tennessee and he was going to stay come hell or high water. Your husband has no one to blame but himself for his sudden forced departure. Have a nice day, and tell Phil we appreciate everything he did for Tennessee while he was here, except for the last 5 years.
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:lolabove:
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
dooley can't control them because they have no intelligence. They came to Tenn for 1 thing--Kiffin promised them they'd be in the NFL in 2 years. They could care less about this team or Dooley and his program. Just let Dooley get his guys in and then you can call for his head if THEY don't perform.
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you can't go to the nfl for 3 years or after your redshirt soph year. :salute:
 
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OrangeByBirth said:
ABSOLUTELY! Most of those "fans" learned their football from X-box or other video games and learned to talk smack from Jim Rome. Just remember, if they weren't disgruntled they would be gruntled. There is no computer game for NCAA Athletic Director 2010 so they don't even realize that the real problem is in that office.
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So you blame Hamilton for which:

Not Firing Fulmer when he was hired?

Which he couldnt do without the yes from the high dollar boosters who wanted to keep Fulmer

Firing Fulmer the way he did?

Which he did because he was getting heat from the boosters and fans at that point
 
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If anyone here thinks Hamilton would have fired Fulmer without the nudging of Haslam/Thorton et al, you guys need to put down the bong.
 
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