Vols AD drops the ball on coaching hire

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VKAman said:
Dooley was recommended to him by Muschamp...still a panic move, but no darts thrown
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that instills alot of confidence in Hamilton's hiring process, if Dooley wasn't even on his radar, when he started his search
 
#52
#52
Great post, RockyTopSC.

If LSU had been replacing Les Miles this winter, their top three choices would most likely have been Muschamp, Dooley and Tuberville. Dooley might have even been their first choice. Auburn probably could've and maybe should've hired him, although Chizik may work out very well for them in the long run. Muschamp was worth going after as a first choice for UT, but IMO Derek Dooley should have been Hamilton's next move. After Muschamp, perhaps his overtures to the others targets were made to appease certain UT power brokers, because DD is a better hire.

Derek Dooley is a great SEC/UT HC fit and well worth taking a chance on. He has the potential to end up being a "home run" hire. If UT is patient and fully supportive of him, I think he will be very successful and apt to stay for a very long time, potentially even his entire HC career. When you've got a really good HC who does not get complacent, continuity is worth its weight in gold. Vince Dooley was an Auburn man who spent his entire HC career at UGA, instead of returning to his Alma Mater. It's hardly a given that Derek Dooley would necessarily desire to be the HC at UGA one day if the opportunity to do so arose.
 
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#53
Well I'd listen to msnbc if they were leading all the networks but they're having their clocked cleaned. That whole network is a bunch of losers
 
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kptvol said:
The panic/safe/fallback hire was going to be Cutcliffe or making Kippy Brown permanent.
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he tried with Cut, but Cut wouldn't agree to the fate of the assiatant coaches

so if Cut was his fallback, panic hire

Dooley was below that
 
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I would not worry about this story to much, most vol fans felt the same way when we first heard of this hire, after many of us researched DD we felt better about the hire.
MSNBC is notorious for not researching editorials they run.
 
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vol_in_il said:
he tried with Cut, but Cut wouldn't agree to the fate of the assiatant coaches

so if Cut was his fallback, panic hire

Dooley was below that
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I'm not sure how much I believe all that. We also interviewed Kippy after Dooley was hired. Cutcliffe being talked to doesn't mean he was favored above Dooley. We were supposedly talking to Troy Calhoun and Will Muschamp at about the same time. I don't think that means they were both about equally desired as candidates.
 
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I do not think that Cut was ever offered since he was a bonehead in the interview and insisted in bringing back Luke and Roper.
 
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kptvol said:
I'm not sure how much I believe all that. We also interviewed Kippy after Dooley was hired. Cutcliffe being talked to doesn't mean he was favored above Dooley. We were supposedly talking to Troy Calhoun and Will Muschamp at about the same time. I don't think that means they were both about equally desired as candidates.
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well if you follow the way the coaches were leaked as candidates you would make the assumption that Hambone went from top to bottom
 
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vol_in_il said:
well if you follow the way the coaches were leaked as candidates you would make the assumption that Hambone went from top to bottom
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It certainly appears that way. But less face it, searching for a HC this close to signing day following the ugly CLK departure was NOT going to be easy.

Coach Dooley wasn't afraid to take on this challenge. I'm guessing the coaches that declined didn't want your HC job under these circumstances.

Give Dooley credit for that.

At this point, you guys have hired a good one, and don't even know it...... yet.
 
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vol_in_il said:
well if you follow the way the coaches were leaked as candidates you would make the assumption that Hambone went from top to bottom
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Odd that Lovie Smith came after Troy Calhoun. I imagine he knew time was tight so he contacted several people right away, not necessarily waiting for #1 to decline before contacting #2 and down.

We'll probably never know the exact order of the list. If you believe Hamilton, the list last year was 1. Kiffin, 2. Calhoun. I don't believe that for a second.
 
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p&g_wheelz007 said:
It certainly appears that way. But less face it, searching for a HC this close to signing day following the ugly CLK departure was NOT going to be easy.

Coach Dooley wasn't afraid to take on this challenge. I'm guessing the coaches that declined didn't want your HC job under these circumstances.

Give Dooley credit for that.

At this point, you guys have hired a good one, and don't even know it...... yet.
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I just want to know why you guys are so high on this guy. It seems everything successful he's done was accomplished under Saban who would have probably had similar results either way.
 
#70
#70
I think Mike hamilton is a bumbling idiot .

CLK made progress here given the talent he had , the QB issue he inherited , and the bruising schedule . I think the timing and method of his departure was terrible to say the least.

I am as optimistic as the next guy ( or gal ) . I see nothing in CDD accomplishments to suggest he is going to have staggering success here . I hope he does.

Vandy hired Bobby Johnson , who had a ton of success at a lower level of football and was a proven recruiter at that level . He turned vandy around by the same defination that CDD turned LA Tech around ...no real success on the W - L record but led them to a bowl , got wins over UT , UT , UA , USCe , and beat Florida but got ripped by the refs . Not to mention taking them to a bowl and beating BC . Just wondering how folks would have reacted if we had hired CBJ ? That is what this is the equal to.
 
#71
#71
uuuggghhh.......are you trying to say Vandy and UT are about the same :crazy:

Vandy was Vandy before BJ and will be Vandy after BJ. Vandy wasn't going to decent bowls every year nor winning 8, 9 or 10 games each year to. Vandy wasn't in the Top 10, 15 or 20. Vandy wasn't on TV 5-6 games a year. Vandy doesn't pack in 100K every Saturday.

And by the way if you look at BJ's bio he was with Furman most of his coaching career, one year as DC at Clemson before joining Vanderbilt. I don't see any SECC or NC's on there. I'll put Dooley's coaching bio up any day against BJ's

Just say for the heck of it if Vandy and UT had a HC opening at the same time. Which one would get a better "choice" of coaches to choose from.
 
#74
#74
CDD has my full support only time will tell until then I support him.
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