Volnation will voice their opinions but will get behind whomever is hired

#26
#26
winning would win over anyone. but you have to wait for that. this off season will be brutal if it's a coach that many in the gruden camp have on the "don't want" list.

and frankly, it probably doens't matter who they hire, while i know there are some that have genuinely said they don't want gruden, the reality is, he's probably the only coach they could hire that the majority of the fan base would get behind. and it would take him failing miserably to get people off that train.

i think anyone else they hire, is going to immediate separate the fan base in to factions. there those that think Mullen is the guy, Miles, Frost, petrino, Kiffin etc....everybody has their guy.

i think the only thing that might have a similar solidarity for the fan base is if they hire a guy like Norvell, Brohm, Schiano (and i know each of those has their supporters, but let's face it, they're in the minority), and everyone immediately goes in to "wait and see mode" with the expectation of it being another complete and utter failure.

yeaaaaaaa coaching searches!!

jmo of course.
 
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jakez4ut said:
winning would win over anyone. but you have to wait for that. this off season will be brutal if it's a coach that many in the gruden camp have on the "don't want" list.

and frankly, it probably doens't matter who they hire, while i know there are some that have genuinely said they don't want gruden, the reality is, he's probably the only coach they could hire that the majority of the fan base would get behind. and it would take him failing miserably to get people off that train.

i think anyone else they hire, is going to immediate separate the fan base in to factions. there those that think Mullen is the guy, Miles, Frost, petrino, Kiffin etc....everybody has their guy.

i think the only thing that might have a similar solidarity for the fan base is if they hire a guy like Norvell, Brohm, Schiano (and i know each of those has their supporters, but let's face it, they're in the minority), and everyone immediately goes in to "wait and see mode" with the expectation of it being another complete and utter failure.

yeaaaaaaa coaching searches!!

jmo of course.
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Agreed. There is no perfect candidate.
 
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tnktm said:
I think Currie will get the best coach he can and once it's settled we'll rally behind our new coach. I think it's natural for us to gravitate to Gruden because he is so high profile but on the small chance Hyams is right that coaches are turning us down because of Grudenmania they should have no fear - Volnation is hungry and eager for a fresh start.
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I disagree. After the last decade of disaster I think Currie is at risk of losing an increasingly apathetic fan base. He has to make the RIGHT hire not a hire.
Not saying it has to be Gruden, but there is a short list that would inspire.
Otherwise we’ve got the titans and preds!
 
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tnktm said:
I think Currie will get the best coach he can and once it's settled we'll rally behind our new coach. I think it's natural for us to gravitate to Gruden because he is so high profile but on the small chance Hyams is right that coaches are turning us down because of Grudenmania they should have no fear - Volnation is hungry and eager for a fresh start.
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I'm not hungry for anything anymore. I'm not eager. I'm not going to rally behind anyone. I don't want to hear slogans. I'm not going to trust. I'm not going to distrust. But I'm not going to get excited. We've done all that. We've done that for ten years. Best staff in America. Orange dogs. Tampa 2. We've done all that. Ten years we've done all that. No, strike that, 15 years. Last time we were relevant, Napster was still a thing and Wikipedia was launched as a website.

Tennessee is one of the five most profitable athletic programs in the country. Act like it.
 
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LibertyVolance said:
Not this time. I think any coach will have to prove his salt this go around. We have had 3 fails back to back since 09.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I refuse to jump on another bandwagon until there is some measured success. If this past coaching debacle didn't make people suspicious of smoke, mirrors, and catchy clichés, then nothing ever will.

We are far to easily drawn into coach awe and unwarranted devotion and that has caused major disappointments, not to mention some of the stupidest defenders of mediocrity and unwarranted contract extensions leading to costlier buyouts and more pain.

There has been one major earthquake hire since Johnny Majors came home in 1977. That's a long time for a university with a fanbase of this size and with this rich a history of football.

Want to know why there are so many Gruden hopefuls in this fanbase? I just gave it to you. They have deserved better and waited too long. JMO.
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Majors first four years at Tennessee was 4/7, 5/5/1, 7/5, and 5/6. Volnation would have been screaming for him to be fired today. Harbaugh was home run hire at Michigan. He may be available in a couple of years. Whoever we get will not suddenly turn us around.
 
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So here's how this "line up and support whoever" thing will work:

* After a bit of initial griping, most of VolNation will in fact either come out in support of the new coach, or agree to hold off criticism for the time being.
* Some limited number will say something to the effect of, "this is going to turn out bad, you mark my words."
* From that point on, as long as the team wins, you'll be right.
* The first game we lose, all those who had their words marked will become snipers in the rocks. For the rest of that coach's tenure. We will all call them NegaVols, but they'll do it anyway.
* If we don't win the East by year 3, the "anyone who's going to win a championship does it by Year 3" crowd will fall off the bandwagon, and join the snipers. They'll take their pot shots, more and more regularly.
* If heaven forbid we win fewer games in a year than we did the year before, your entire "VolNation will rally behind him" optimism will be roundly ridiculed as naive. The negativity will snowball. VolNation will become toxic.

So...I would say "you're right." Except I would mean it in only the most limited sense. We're far too bloodthirsty as a community for any broader understanding.

But, you know, Go Vols!
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
As for the OP's post, you are delusional if you believe that. Do you honestly think VN would get behind and support a hire like Fleck, Norvell or Bobo? it most certainly will not. Nor should it. We have suffered through crappy hires ever since we forced Fulmer out. No more mosquito **** coaches. Helicopter **** coaches only.
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I'm not necessarily out on Norvell, but would want to see more and he's further down my list. But yeah, if they trot out Bobo, Fleck or worse across that stage, I guess my landscaping will just continue to improve on football weekends.
 
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No sir, not this time you can prove to this great fan base that you want to win by hiring a proven winner, or you won’t have a great fan base. We have been mediocre too long.
 
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I could not get behind the last bum from the day he was announced. Voicing my feelings he was a disaster got me death threats from some here, who didn't know more than I did about the bum.

Don't hire a bum.
 
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There are quite a few I'd put ahead of Gruden (but I don't know that any of them are any more realistic than Gruden). That said, there are a number of hires (Mullen, Schiano, Norvell, etc) I wouldn't be happy about and would take at least a year of good things to be convinced. Essentially, the same way I was when Butch and Dooley were hired.
 
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Maybe the hire will be good enough for everybody to bounce back and cheer, but as of right now, I have the Tennessee Blues and might never get out of them.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
So here's how this "line up and support whoever" thing will work:

* After a bit of initial griping, most of VolNation will in fact either come out in support of the new coach, or agree to hold off criticism for the time being.
* Some limited number will say something to the effect of, "this is going to turn out bad, you mark my words."
* From that point on, as long as the team wins, you'll be right.
* The first game we lose, all those who had their words marked will become snipers in the rocks. For the rest of that coach's tenure. We will all call them NegaVols, but they'll do it anyway.
* If we don't win the East by year 3, the "anyone who's going to win a championship does it by Year 3" crowd will fall off the bandwagon, and join the snipers. They'll take their pot shots, more and more regularly.
* If heaven forbid we win fewer games in a year than we did the year before, your entire "VolNation will rally behind him" optimism will be roundly ridiculed as naive. The negativity will snowball. VolNation will become toxic.

So...I would say "you're right." Except I would mean it in only the most limited sense. We're far too bloodthirsty as a community for any broader understanding.

But, you know, Go Vols!
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sounds a lot like the last 5 years...history good predictor for the future....?
 
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SobeVol said:
I disagree. After the last decade of disaster I think Currie is at risk of losing an increasingly apathetic fan base. He has to make the RIGHT hire not a hire.
Not saying it has to be Gruden, but there is a short list that would inspire.
Otherwise we’ve got the titans and preds!
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That's fine, but real Tennessee fans will be fired up and ready to go well before the season starts, and the real Tennessee team is damn sure not in Nashville.
 
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KBVol said:
“Get behind” means, at the end of the day, we’re all Vol fans and will ultimately and undoubtedly support whomever Currie brings in as our head coach, until the time he no longer deserves that support.
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Winner Winner Chicken Dinner
 
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If Florida hires Kelly and we bring out some Rudy Toot, don't expect folks to jump on board. Enough is enough.
 
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Godfatha said:
If Florida hires Kelly and we bring out some Rudy Toot, don't expect folks to jump on board. Enough is enough.
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Then I tell them
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jakez4ut said:
sounds a lot like the last 5 years...history good predictor for the future....?
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Heh, I don't know. I've only been here two years or so.

But I have a bit of the measure of VN.com, and I understand human nature.
 
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