VolNation, Take Notice...

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The Top 10 Classes:

1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Ohio State
4. Notre Dame
5. LSU
6. Michigan
7. Texas A&M
8. UCLA
9. Georgia
10. USC

Notice the thing in common with all those schools?

The ones with coaches that have been there for years win perennially.

But the schools with new coaches of 2 years or less (A&M, UCLA, Ohio State, Michigan, Florida) have had coaches come in that AUTOMATICALLY made an impact at their schools. A&M produced a Heisman and beat Alabama in Sumlin's first year, UCLA won the South in the PAC-12, and went 9-5 in Mora's first year. Ohio State of course goes undefeated in Meyer's first year. Michigan went 11-2 in Hoke's first year. Florida went 11-2 this year in Muschamp's 2nd year.

Dooley just said "You think you have a good class, and then you look up and you see that everyone else has a greater class than you." That was true. Dooley couldn't recruit on his reputation, and Butch can't recruit on his yet. But the coaches at these schools that I've mentioned are coaches that actually can coach with the talent they get, and then when talented players see that they can win there, they will then come to their school.

What I'm saying, is two things:

1) No wonder Dooley couldn't recruit as well as the big boys, because he never won like the big boys. If you can't coach, and you can't win the big games, you won't recruit.

2) Butch HAS to pull a winning season this year. The 2014 class is the most important one. If Butch cannot show people that he is a MUCH better coach than Dooley, then he won't be able to recruit like he needs to. But if Butch wins a game against Florida, or Oregon, or South Carolina, or Georgia or Alabama, then recruiting will take off like crazy.

Looking forward to a good signing day, and a great season!!!

Go Vols, and Go Butch!
 
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

A&M's coach is in year 2, USC's coach is in year 4, Notre Dame's coach in year 4, Ohio
State's coach in year 2, UCLA coach in year 2, Florida Coach in year 3.
 
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A&M and UCLA have been way down until recently... Get a real difference maker at a skill position and you can rebound quickly
 
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Coaches are allowed to remain at a school when they win. Winning coaches attract recruits. What an informative, yet wordy post.
 
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

A&M's coach is in year 2, USC's coach is in year 4, Notre Dame's coach in year 4, Ohio
State's coach in year 2, UCLA coach in year 2, Florida Coach in year 3.


Learn to read.

Sumlin has finished 1 season. USC I didn't say their coach was new. Notre Dame, I didn't say their coach was new. Meyer has finished 1 season at Ohio State. Mora Jr. has finished 1 season at UCLA. Muschamp has finished 2 seasons at Florida.

Therefore, if you would actually READ, you'd see that everything I said is true.
 
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This is kind of common sense, but some very good points made here using great examples. Like I've been saying all off season. If we win, we will get those recruits eventually. We can't keep letting all of our in state talent go to all of these no name schools, just because we are a bad team. We need to win and win decisively and excitingly for people to WANT to come here and play. Nick Saban knows this the best, anyone who's seen a line graph of his recruiting knows he was hot garbage until he started winning. Now Alabama has all of a sudden become the "place to play". That is no coincidence.
 
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Ole Miss?

Ole Miss was 11th on rivals when I did the post. But even they went from 2-11 to 7-6 including a bowl win! That's pretty significant improvement.

Recruits just want to see that things are getting better under a new coach. Dooley never showed that. Never had a big win, or anything.
 
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Ole Miss was 11th on rivals when I did the post. But even they went from 2-11 to 7-6 including a bowl win! That's pretty significant improvement.

Recruits just want to see that things are getting better under a new coach. Dooley never showed that. Never had a big win, or anything.
On top of him being a arrogant prick..
 
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I'm just saying that people should not be sitting here expecting Alabama-like results off the field when we don't have Alabama-like results on the field. Half of the country still thinks our coach is named Butch Davis. It should be a good signing day for us, but people need to quit freaking out when we lose a recruit. Tennessee has a lot of great things about it, but the main thing it's been missing is the ability to promise a kid that they will be a winner here against the best competition in the world. If Butch can show kids that he can coach a winning team, as long as he has the players, he will get the players.

Yes, it is a simple concept, but half of VolNation has forgotten it. Just trying to save a few meltdowns.
 
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

A&M's coach is in year 2, USC's coach is in year 4, Notre Dame's coach in year 4, Ohio
State's coach in year 2, UCLA coach in year 2, Florida Coach in year 3.

This post has 3 likes...which shows me at least 4 people don't read.
 
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He means to say take notice how far we have been left behind. Don't be foolish and make excuses. Until the talent gap is closed we will lose. It is just the fact we have to deal with.
 
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He means to say take notice how far we have been left behind. Don't be foolish and make excuses. Until the talent gap is closed we will lose. It is just the fact we have to deal with.
This is true.. No amount of sunshine being pumped in will change that fact..
 
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ole miss or auburn(not in the top 10)but still signing a decent class(got a new staff and has a worst record then us) so your post is really questionable....this is tennessee we should be able to lock $*** down....no excuses anymore UT is the best school in college football no reason we can't sell our program,staff,history and fan base!!! GO VOLS!!
 
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This is true.. No amount of sunshine being pumped in will change that fact..

Agreed. We have to find a coach who can win with what we have. We can't expect, with a coach who has not been famed yet, for 5* to just line up and play for us. Places like USC just sell themselves because of their location and tradition.
 
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