Vincent Perry has academic work; Tuttle timetable; Corey Henderson

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Sandvol said:
I don't see Tuttle as an impact player this year. Will take him two years to fully recover. See limited snaps for him. I could see ten snaps a game.
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If that's the case, they almost would be better off redshirting him.
 
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All joking aside about Paul Bain, if Tuttle can't really go full out at all this year Bain is gonna have to give some meaningful snaps
 
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Bain tackles entire backfield @ practice...

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To the AMAZEMENT of ALL bystanders...

He is then lauded as he saunters off...

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walkenvol said:
Sounds like you really wanted that degree and were willing to do whatever was needed - I salute you! :good!:

But, did you only take 12 hours each semester like many(not all) of the football athletes? What major did you pursue? There are some pretty easy ones if you look for them. Did you have the team of tutors and guidance available to the athletes - its really amazing if you've not seen it. IMO, an athlete has to try to not remain academically eligible unless there's some type of serious learning disorder.
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I understand what you are saying. My point was that I can see how any student who gets caught up in that part of college life that detracts from coursework can easily get into academic trouble. Sometimes folks come out of high school without a clear understanding of the work and dedication it will take to get through college. Some will adjust - some will fail.

My degree is in Applied Math but I had coursework in both Math and Engineering - debated between the two for some time before landing on the one and I tutored myself. :)
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Based on what?
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Let's just say I'm very skeptical. The position he plays and his body type and size it is going to be very difficult for his leg to get back into good enough shape within a year for him to be able to contribute-not to mention the difficulty getting the rest of his body into shape. Plus there is the risk of re-injury so they will probably bring him along very slowly and if there is any hint of risk of re-injury he won't play. An injury like this can eventually be career ending and they won't do any thing to magnify that possibility.
 
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Sandvol said:
Let's just say I'm very skeptical. The position he plays and his body type and size it is going to be very difficult for his leg to get back into good enough shape within a year for him to be able to contribute-not to mention the difficulty getting the rest of his body into shape. Plus there is the risk of re-injury so they will probably bring him along very slowly and if there is any hint of risk of re-injury he won't play. An injury like this can eventually be career ending and they won't do any thing to magnify that possibility.
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I think that's overly pessimistic. This is football. There is always the risk of injury. If Butch is saying he will be full speed by the end of next month, it's not because he is planning to treat him with kid gloves this fall... and plus, I remember John Henderson playing with a high ankle sprain the entire 2001 season after being chop blocked by Syracuse's center in the opener - and he played very well. You're probably selling Tuttle short as far as what he needs to do to get his body back in playing shape. These guys are in the prime of their lives.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I think that's overly pessimistic. This is football. There is always the risk of injury. If Butch is saying he will be full speed by the end of next month, it's not because he is planning to treat him with kid gloves this fall... and plus, I remember John Henderson playing with a high ankle sprain the entire 2001 season after being chop blocked by Syracuse's center in the opener - and he played very well. You're probably selling Tuttle short as far as what he needs to do to get his body back in playing shape. These guys are in the prime of their lives.
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Much more severe than a high ankle sprain. We'll see.
 
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Sandvol said:
Much more severe than a high ankle sprain. We'll see.
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It certainly is but my point was that these are young athletes who don't need to be at 100% physically in order to play... and play well. The start of the season is still 3 months away.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It certainly is but my point was that these are young athletes who don't need to be at 100% physically in order to play... and play well. The start of the season is still 3 months away.
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I wasn't talking about old athletes.
 
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OH-Vol said:
How does a recruit that doesn't qualify academically impact the scholarship situation for future years?

Does the school absorb the hit? Certainly we would have used Henderson's scholarship elsewhere if we knew he wouldn't qualify right?

Thanks.
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It's an initial qualifier that counts against this class but not next. Where it socks us is we can't backcount against it with our EEs in the next class.
 
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Sandvol said:
I don't see Tuttle as an impact player this year. Will take him two years to fully recover. See limited snaps for him. I could see ten snaps a game.
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You don't know anything, and you're basing your post on your lack of knowledge. Two years? What was sitting beside that in your butt? :lol:
 
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Sandvol said:
Let's just say I'm very skeptical. The position he plays and his body type and size it is going to be very difficult for his leg to get back into good enough shape within a year for him to be able to contribute-not to mention the difficulty getting the rest of his body into shape. Plus there is the risk of re-injury so they will probably bring him along very slowly and if there is any hint of risk of re-injury he won't play. An injury like this can eventually be career ending and they won't do any thing to magnify that possibility.
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Are you a doctor?
 
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butchna said:
Yeah, in HIGH SCHOOL top athletes fill multiple roles. At TENNESSEE he was never in consideration for DB...always a WR signee. :thumbsup:
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pretty much what I thought you meant - he is going to be a good one
 
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Matthews didn't specifically name Perry this morning, but said part of the reason for the Byrd move was that a WR from last year's team would not be returning to school. I assume he meant VP, and he said it pretty matter of factly fwiw.
 
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holdemvol said:
Matthews didn't specifically name Perry this morning, but said part of the reason for the Byrd move was that a WR from last year's team would not be returning to school. I assume he meant VP, and he said it pretty matter of factly fwiw.
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Heard it the same way. I was hoping he meant Cody Blanc, but I think he meant Perry.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Are you a doctor?
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Here is the quote from the May article:

Tuttle, the nation’s No. 53 overall prospect in the 2015 industry-generated 247Sports Composite, had just started emerging as a real contributor for the Vols as a true freshman before suffering a season-ending leg fracture on an unfortunate block from Georgia’s Brandon Kublanow on Oct. 10.

Despite finally getting out of a walking boot a few weeks ago, Tuttle still has a ways to go in his recovery, and Jones didn’t deny that.

“Shy Tuttle is progressing,” Jones said. “There’s no timetable yet. We’re hoping early July, late June, somewhere in there.”

Jones has mentioned Tuttle and sophomore wide receiver Jauan Jennings (knee) as the only two injured Vols who aren’t necessarily on track to return by June.

I guess there is a lot that can be read into that. Butch says "there's no timetable yet but we're hoping early July, but, he still has a ways to go"-whatever that means. He just got out of the walking boot in April. It will be miraculous if contributes any significant snaps this year in my opinion. Also, that Georgia player is a dirty player. Can't believe the SEC did not suspend him.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I agree with this. If Butch said that "DT Shy Tuttle won't be full speed until late July." that means that they expect him ready for the start of fall practice and a redshirt is not currently under consideration and I think there would have to be a major setback for that to change. I also disagree with those who say that he has to be at 100% to play. Tuttle is not sticking around here 5 years, as soon as he can contribute, we need him out there.
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100% AGREE!
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