Vince Young vs. Michael Vick

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Somebody help me out here. Admittedly, living in Georgia I don't see a lot of Vince Young, but my perception is that he's a taller, weaker armed version of Vick who maybe stays in the pocket a little more.

Am I wrong?
 
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GAVol said:
Somebody help me out here. Admittedly, living in Georgia I don't see a lot of Vince Young, but my perception is that he's a taller, weaker armed version of Vick who maybe stays in the pocket a little more.

Am I wrong?
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I haven't seen too much of Young this year, but it seems to me that he may be a step slower than Vick, but he is a little more accurate and a lot more patient.
 
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LOL. Saying he is anything like Vick to me is blasphemy.

First of all VY is a QB not a RB. He is looking to throw the ball first, not run run run. He is like a gazelle when he runs though. He seems to be in slow mo.


Vince, to me, is more accurate than Vick. He tends to throw high at times and has problems with short passes at times. But remember, he should be getting ready to dominate another NC game right now. He will only get better.

Another difference is leadership. Vince commands respect and has led the Titans since he got the starting job. I think his teammates would take a bullet for him. Where Vick seems to be all about me me me.

Norm Chow is up for the AZ job. If he leaves i think that will set Vince back a bit though. Chow has been a been reason for his success.
 
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GAVol said:
Somebody help me out here. Admittedly, living in Georgia I don't see a lot of Vince Young, but my perception is that he's a taller, weaker armed version of Vick who maybe stays in the pocket a little more.

Am I wrong?
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And saying he is weaker armed is way off. Vince is as strong or stronger than Vick.
 
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If he's more accurate, why aren't his stats better? Again, just asking . . . I've barely seen him, but Vick has a better completion percentage.
 
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GAVol said:
If he's more accurate, why aren't his stats better? Again, just asking . . . I've barely seen him, but Vick has a better completion percentage.
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Well, most of Young's low completion percentage comes from earlier in the year when he was just starting out. He has improved since then. Over the last 6 games his completion percentage was 59% while Vick's was 54%. Not a huge difference, but he was more accurate by the end of the year.
 
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GAVol said:
I disagree. Young's arm is fine, but Vick probably has one of the top 5 arms in the NFL. He can throw it through a wall . . . sometimes he just doesn't know which wall.
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Yea, he has maybe the strongest arm in the league. What hurts him in regards to his receivers is that he never throws the ball the same way. Sometimes it's sidearm, sometimes it's 3/4's, and the receivers never know how it's coming out or how it will be spinning. It's not like they forgot how to catch from college to the NFL. Also, it's impossible to get in rhythm as a receiver when you have no idea if the QB is going to throw the ball or take off with it.

I know that had nothing to do with the original point, but oh well.
 
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I've never heard or noticed the sidearm criticism before. Maybe there's something to that, but I'm telling you, Roddy White, Michael Jenkins and Ashley Lelie were just terrible this year. Algee Crumpler and Brian Finneran (when healthy) don't seem to have a problem catching the football.
 
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GAVol said:
I've never heard or noticed the sidearm criticism before. Maybe there's something to that, but I'm telling you, Roddy White, Michael Jenkins and Ashley Lelie were just terrible this year. Algee Crumpler and Brian Finneran (when healthy) don't seem to have a problem catching the football.
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I'm not disagreeing that they were terrible, but why were they terrible? Bad coaching? Concentration? Bad QB play? These are all factors. Even Crumpler had an unusual amount of drops this year. I just don't think they're as bad as everybody says they are, and some of it has to do with Vick. It seemed like they caught the ball pretty well Sunday when the backup was in there.
 
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GAVol said:
Somebody help me out here. Admittedly, living in Georgia I don't see a lot of Vince Young, but my perception is that he's a taller, weaker armed version of Vick who maybe stays in the pocket a little more.

Am I wrong?
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The most accurate comparison of playing style I've heard is a young John Elway.
 
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Milo . . . Do you even remember a young John Elway? His rookie year would have been somewhere in the early 80s.

I'm old. :shakehead:
 
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GAVol said:
Milo . . . Do you even remember a young John Elway? His rookie year would have been somewhere in the early 80s.

I'm old. :shakehead:
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I've seen that old super slow motion stuff on NFL films. Do they have any regular speed footage, btw?
 
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I've always wanted to figure out how to get an orchestra to play whenever I move.
 
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The main difference between the two is coaching. Vick was thrown into a system that didn't work, hasn't worked, won't work. Not saying Fisher and company are superior but in more ways works better with younger talent, giving them a rock to stand on while developing skills in areas that are most important come game time.

I like Vick's power but I tend to not look very deep at Vick ever being a serious contender for a SB run as long as Atlanta fails to improve the front four to give him better protection and more time with the ball. Young on the other hand I believe will improve his passing skills, arm strength and accuracy, and judging by the past I don't see Young ever having to rush for 1,000+ yards in a losing campaign ...even though he could at the drop of a hat. Atlanta depended on Vick's legs to gain yardage whereas Vince used his legs as last resort to gain yardage when all else failed.

If the choice were mine I'd take a Vince Young over a Michael Vick to lead my team into tomorrow.
 
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allvol123 said:
I was referrring to Young.
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Just as inaccurate, Jones is dropping balls as a WR in Jacksonville while Young (and Vick) are winning games at the QB position.

If we're going to compare Young and Vick, even though they're not the same player, you should use their rookie seasons when comparing their stats. Vick is in, what, his 6th season now? I'd hope he has better numbers than a guy with 13 starts.

I do think that Young's lesser speed is a blessing for him, he seems to know when he can and can't make a run, whereas Vick can take off at any time and get away with it more often than not. He's just that fast.

Young still has a long way to go as a passer, but as someone else pointed out, he started progress late in the year, but still struggled against the better defenses. Hopefully he can bring that around as well.
 
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