Vet Accusses Bush/Cheney of War Crimes

I agree with GAVol, volinBham is one of the best and respected posters on VN. I have been on VN for several years and can assure you if VN had more people like volinBham, it would be a better forum. He is a very well informed cordial poster.

I respect your opinions, Gramps, but maybe you should think about what I said on the subject. There is nothing eight year old girlish about it.
 
I think you are not acknowledging the obvious point here, which is that when we invaded, Iraq had about as much chance of "getting us" as Luxembourg.

I probably should have referred to the policy as "get them before they destabilize the region where a natural resource we depend on comes from".
 
I respect your opinions, Gramps, but maybe you should think about what I said on the subject. There is nothing eight year old girlish about it.

If I let you be an 11 year old girl, can we move the debate along?
 
I probably should have referred to the policy as "get them before they destabilize the region where a natural resource we depend on comes from".


LOL,might have been clearer, yes.

(But of course one must point out that, if that were the test, we could justify invading pretty much anyone. Including, I might add, Luxembourg.)
 
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You are free to read all of the deliberate bull**** you want to read. There is an endless supply of bad writing, enough for you to spend all of your time reading it and replying to it. Frankly, I do not want to waste my time that way. You make your decisions for yourself, and I'll make mine.

BTW, I never put someone on ignore for simply disagreeing with me. As a matter of fact, many good discussions involve disagreement. But good discussions do not involve diversions into deliberate nonsense. If you want people to read your good posts, then you shouldn't get yourself on ignore by posting crap like the above. jmo

Sounds like your reading and responding to it as well. Even with your ignore rant.

I just thought it was funny considering who you were responding to. There are only a handful of people in this forum that I actually take serious, and some of them I disagree with.
 
If I let you be an 11 year old girl, can we move the debate along?

At this point, putting you on ignore would move the debate along. So that is what I am going to do. Enjoy talking insulting nonsense to somebody else.

Looks like I cannot put your insulting personal nonsense on ignore, because you are a moderator.
 
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LOL,might have been clearer, yes.

(But of course one must point out that, if that were the test, we could justify invading pretty much anyone. Including, I might add, Luxembourg.)

Don't underestimate Luxembourg. They could sneak over to Germany and spring leaks in all those breweries and make people miserable.
 
At this point, putting you on ignore would move the debate along. So that is what I am going to do. Enjoy talking insulting nonsense to somebody else.

Looks like I cannot put your insulting personal nonsense on ignore, because you are a moderator.

Indeed . . . I'm like McDonald's. No matter how much I suck, I'm always there.
 
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Someone put bham on ignore? That is indeed surprising, and I only agree with him about 0.002 % of the time. He is rarely antagonistic.

Although he has a lock on the being wrong market.

I don't mind him being wrong so much as the deliberately foolish arguments he makes for being wrong. When he gets caught in one, he just ignores the reply and posts another deliberately foolish argument. That's nothing but a waste of time; no good comes from it. The man is smart enough to know better, but he does it anyway.
 
I don't mind him being wrong so much as the deliberately foolish arguments he makes for being wrong. When he gets caught in one, he just ignores the reply and posts another deliberately foolish argument. That's nothing but a waste of time; no good comes from it. The man is smart enough to know better, but he does it anyway.


I understand but if the criteria for this joint was that you could never ignore a well-reasoned argument against your position, everyone would be on ignore.

Or words to that effect.
 
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I will never understand the ignore feature. Kinda defeats the purpose of a message board (exchanging ideas with others).
 
I understand but if the criteria for this joint was that you could never ignore a well-reasoned argument against your position, everyone would be on ignore.

Or words to that effect.

Stop making sense........Im not used to it from you :)
 
I will never understand the ignore feature. Kinda defeats the purpose of a message board (exchanging ideas with others).


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I will never understand the ignore feature. Kinda defeats the purpose of a message board (exchanging ideas with others).

Different strokes I guess.

The funny part is when your threaten with ignore or told that you are on ignore. That changes my outlook on life completely.
 
I will never understand the ignore feature. Kinda defeats the purpose of a message board (exchanging ideas with others).

The world is full of ideas. Exchanging all of the worthy ones is just impossible to do, even without wasting time by engaging all of the nonsense. Being on this board is a questionable use of time as it is, without wallowing in bull****. I look at it like this; when I am doing something I should not be doing, then I am not doing something that I should be doing. Life is full of choices.

I don't want to put people here on ignore and miss some good posts; that is their decision. The only reason I mention it to them is because it's obvious they don't know how to act and need to be reminded. The sad part is that they still can't understand it, even after I explain it to them, which I am damned tired of doing. Honestly, when I see names on ignore, I just think they represent crap that I don't have look at or clean up.
 
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