Venezuela's Triumphant Socialist Paradise

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tvolsfan said:
I’ve yet to see any real examples of democrats calling Venezuela anything resembling a paradise.
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Reality ruins another right wing narrative. Notice the rush to tie Bernie to the narrative and to tie Bernie to the Democrats? What a colossal failure.
 
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Mick said:
Reality ruins another right wing narrative. Notice the rush to tie Bernie to the narrative and to tie Bernie to the Democrats? What a colossal failure.
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It really requires a child like understanding of Bernie, the Democrats, socialism, and Venezuela.
 
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#703
Mick said:
You didn't notice the obvious slant in the link? Figures.
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I saw nothing incorrect in the link......Panera can't afford to continue to give away food. They established a non-profit figuring the goodwill of the socialist heart would pay full price and then some. Any money they took in would offset what they gave away creating a non-profit or small loss charity (marketing scheme). It didn't work, it was too expensive. What did I miss? Only thing I see is your expectation for companies to give free sh!t away. It's your MO. No one is surprised.
 
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tennvols77 said:
And Mick, understand from my perspective where I spent A LOT of money, and I mean A LOT of my money and an exorbitant amount of my time to realize that there are far more losers who are losers because of personal choice, than there are decent people who are just down.

After a while the small numbers of victories where you see what your time and money did for those who were able to take the help and make positive strides in their personal lives versus the overwhelming amount of low life pos who were too dumb and too messed up to benefit from the help.

It comes to a point where no matter how great just one success story is, and believe me it is beyond fulfilling to see, but, after a while the low success rates wear on you, and they begin to overshadow and take over. You begin to see that people, for the most part, are solely responsible for their choices, and many of those down trodden and less fortunate are solely responsible for their plight in life because of their decisions day in and day out which no matter how much help is given, won't matter.

That is what is truly sad.
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Help is no longer gratefully accepted, it is expected/demanded.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I saw nothing incorrect in the link......Panera can't afford to continue to give away food. They established a non-profit figuring the goodwill of the socialist heart would pay full price and then some. Any money they took in would offset what they gave away creating a non-profit or small loss charity (marketing scheme). It didn't work, it was too expensive. What did I miss? Only thing I see is your expectation for companies to give free sh!t away. It's your MO. No one is surprised.
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Panera Care is what you can't seem to distinguish from Panera Cafe. Panera Care is a nonprofit and not a business. Look at Panera Cafe's stock and say their brand of charity failed to meet capitalistic standards.
 
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#706
82_VOL_83 said:
Help is no longer gratefully accepted, it is expected/demanded.
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Worse, any idealism is murdered by reality. It was an awakening for sure, and realizing humans, and human nature within certain humans, is absolutely void of any type of awareness or care on any level. I saw and heard things that quickly turned that idealism into depression and sadness.
 
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Mick said:
Panera Care is what you can't seem to distinguish from Panera Cafe. Panera Care is a nonprofit and not a business. Look at Panera Cafe's stock and say their brand of charity failed to meet capitalistic standards.
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Who was the parent company and why did they close it?
 
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#710
Orange_Vol1321 said:
You can call him an independent but he's so far left he's a Democrat.
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There are R's, I's, and D's. There are no S's yet. When that party splits from the D's, Bernie will be a charter member of the S's along with his girl AOC. The D's will have to fish or cut bait at that time.
 
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China and Russia loaned billions to Venezuela — and then the presidency went up for grabs
Venezuela is in the middle of a power struggle at the highest level, and that could mean trouble for its two biggest foreign allies: China and Russia.

The socialist petrostate is home to the largest oil reserves on the planet, but endemic corruption has devastated its economy. Beijing and Moscow have helped the country stave off collapse by repeatedly extending financial lifelines — to the tune of tens of billions of dollars over the last decade.
 
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Mick said:
Reality ruins another right wing narrative. Notice the rush to tie Bernie to the narrative and to tie Bernie to the Democrats? What a colossal failure.
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Bernie ties himself to it, by posting that crap on his website, and I never claimed he called it a “paradise.” He did put an article, on his website, that suggested Venezuela was producing better opportunity then his country. It was beyond stupid. And it’s beyond laughable that the Dems are trying to claim he isn’t a Dem. Remind me again which political party had millions support him for president?
 
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volfanhill said:
Bernie ties himself to it, by posting that crap on his website, and I never claimed he called it a “paradise.” He did put an article, on his website, that suggested Venezuela was producing better opportunity then his country. It was beyond stupid. And it’s beyond laughable that the Dems are trying to claim he isn’t a Dem. Remind me again which political party had millions support him for president?
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Hill, I just can't find supporting evidence that the Dem's in congress over the last 20 years have levied praise on Venezuela's Economy, Government, or leaders.
 
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Mick said:
Reality ruins another right wing narrative. Notice the rush to tie Bernie to the narrative and to tie Bernie to the Democrats? What a colossal failure.
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You know he won the popular vote in the democratic primaries right? And it was just because of the super delegates that he didnt win right?
 
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LouderVol said:
yup, looks like I was wrong.

But now that you guys have admitted he is a Democrat, you want to go back on his ties to the party?
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Bernie is an independent. The rise of Bernie can only be attributed to rejecting Hillary's Democrat party. What kind of connection are you looking for? Wikileaks should have given you some insight.
How about his ties to Venezuela or the Democrats ties to Venezuela? Don't lose sight of the issue at hand, which is the Democrats considering Venezuela a socialist paradise. That narrative does not have facts on it's side.
 
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Mick said:
Bernie is an independent. The rise of Bernie can only be attributed to rejecting Hillary's Democrat party. What kind of connection are you looking for? Wikileaks should have given you some insight.
How about his ties to Venezuela or the Democrats ties to Venezuela? Don't lose sight of the issue at hand, which is the Democrats considering Venezuela a socialist paradise. That narrative does not have facts on it's side.
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So we can expect more Independents to be the major contender for the Democrats?

never really read much wikileaks, usually just hit up whatever is referenced on here.
 
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#725
LouderVol said:
So we can expect more Independents to be the major contender for the Democrats?

never really read much wikileaks, usually just hit up whatever is referenced on here.
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Put it this way they didn't open their arms and embrace him and he considers himself an Independent. If you want to know why he ran on the Democrat ticket you need to look no further than the nature of the 2 party system.
 
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