Velus and Cade

[MemphisVol77]

QB from Stanford and RB from Mich St, contributed very little and didnt progress toward a degree which eliminated TN from getting any for 2019.

Context?

I think I'm unaware of an NCAA rule.

You aren't allowed to sign any transfers the following year if your previous years transfers didn't progress towards a degree?

 

[MemphisVol77]

Thomas, Bailey, and Perry will have a year under their belts at that point. Hes also targeting a five star (Page) for 2021, who could probably play immediately. I think its still possible he adds one more DL to this class.

And The Junkyard Dog Elijah Simmons will be on his 3rd year.

 

[OffTackleVol]

I'm astounded by what CJP has done with the portal and his recruiting compared with his results. There is no team in the nation that does not now utilize the transfer portal. CJP has utilized it more effectively than most coaches. The portal does not even speak to Smith coming back. I've seen Smith go in the top ten in mock drafts. I've never seen the progression at UT like I'm seeing now since the late 90s. And while most of you don't like it, I'm blunt. CJP should win ten games next year. There is no reason with this stuff he should not.

Putting my orange-colored glasses aside for one second. I think next year is the most interesting year in SEC history. Name me one team you'd bet your mortgage on. Jimbo is entering the third year of a $75 million contract. What if he doesn't win the west next year? Could you imagine if we paid CJP that, and he didn't win the east? Mullen has accomplished squat at Florida. HE's also accomplished squat when we were at our lowest and FSU was at theirs. That's ending. And Kirby. What has Kirby done? He has beat our butts, sure. Not going to talk smack to UGA fans. But he has to play to AL and AU next year.

It's all coming together.

Nice post, love the positive attitude. Only change I'd make is replace "should" with "could." CJP could win ten games next year. As been mentioned ad nauseam, QB play is huge. What other teams are losing in expired eligibility and early entry to the NFL, what we have returning, and a schedule that sets up nicely, we certainly have a chance at 10 wins. There are no automatic losses on the schedule next year; something we haven't been able to say for 5-6 years.

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

I understand but taking TWO guys who had no intention of getting a masters put you behind the others in SEC yet more. I’m not sure what purpose taking the RB served.

How did it put us behind anyone? And who? Bama isn't taking transfers and riding them to the top, nor is UGA. Those super transfers transferred out of the SEC. Last year. We needed to take chances to upgrade talent and ability and had plenty of spots to play with. Also, I'm not really arguing, other than we haven't totally shat the bed with transfers compared to the rest of the sec.

 

[wmcovol]

How did it put us behind anyone? And who? Bama isn't taking transfers and riding them to the top, nor is UGA. Those super transfers transferred out of the SEC. Last year. We needed to take chances to upgrade talent and ability and had plenty of spots to play with. Also, I'm not really arguing, other than we haven't totally shat the bed with transfers compared to the rest of the sec.

I’m speaking specifically of Grad Transfers. Bama took Dickenson in the OL and filled a big hole. UF took a all conf type LB. Ga took a WR who was their best WR when not injured but Tenn couldn’t get any. I am told if your grad transfers don’t work toward a degree you are prohibited from signing any the next year.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Why stay in bed when number that 7th B52 beckons????

Trying to give a whole new meaning to fuzzy logic, man. Emphasis on fuzzy.

 

[VolMarine1371]

Pruitt has done a poor job with grad transfers. He hit .333, Kennedy a winner, the other two, QB from Stanford and RB from Mich St, contributed very little and didnt progress toward a degree which eliminated TN from getting any for 2019. Meanwhile some of our opponents are rebuilding quickly getting all conference type guys.

Wasnt the QB from standoffs a Butch Jones recruit?

 

[LittleVol]

Put down the gasoline can before you hurt somebody.

Three of the four starting QBs in the 2020 NCAA playoffs came to their team via the transfer portal. Not to take anything away from UT's players, but none of Pruitt's signed transfers have come close to having that kind of impact. Cade Mays is a great OL, though.

I am not sure what you consider squat to be, but Dan Mullen has won 21 games in two seasons since becoming FL's HC. He's also had two blowout wins over UT.

That was an anomaly.
LSU wasn't even couldn't even score a Td against Bama in Burrows 1st season. Then they get Joe Brady as pass coordinator.

OSUs success was dependent on a controversial appeal in Justin Fields.

OU already dominated their conference and then added Jalen Hurts.

And no one effects the game a much as QB anyway. Not to mention LSU, OU, and OSU were all stacked with talent and just needed a good QB.

What we have done in the transfer portal is get former 5 star Aubrey Solomon who was outstanding for our D-line in 2019. And former 5 stat Cade Mays as you mentioned, who started 18 games for UGA in 2 years. Probably our starting WR in DeAngelo Gibbs as well. So I don't believe anyone has done as well Pruitt with the transfer portal during the rebuild of a roster.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Guarantano.

Sorry.

8-4. Maybe 9-3.

Hold onto your confetti until Bailey gets his shot.

This is why I'm saying Bailey will be the starter. Bailey being an early enrollee is huge. He's going to go through winter workouts and spring practice, giving him a huge leg up over most true freshman QBs.

I thought that Pruitt's comment about him was telling...he throws "with anticipation." In other words, he won't be late on his throws like JG is. Folks just have a hard time believing that a freshman can come in and start at QB. But Manning did it. Clausen did it (and, were it not for a collarbone injury, would have started game 1 of that season). Tyler Bray, Jalen Hurts, Trevor Lawrence, Jake Fromm...plenty of guys do it. But they have to be a certain level of talent and the situation has to be right. In this case, Bailey is a top talent, and the situation is that UT has a very average starting QB right now (that's being nice)...and Bailey is coming in early. All the ingredients are there for a freshman starter at QB.

 

[CrybabyVol]

You lost me at “Mullen has accomplished squat at Florida”.
Get a clue - Mullen has chalked up back to back double digit wins in his first two years, the second with a backup QB.

What does he have to show for it? He's one spot ahead of us in recruiting. He has no SECc appearances. Oh and let's discuss the backup. Every gator fan on this board says Trask is better than Franks. How did Mullen drop the ball there? Mullen can't beat UGA, and his luck with us and fsu is running out.

 

[CrybabyVol]

If Pruitt had the same wins as Mullen after year 2 would you say he has accomplished squat? I wouldn’t . I would be touting us as a CFP team next year, which unfortunately I think the Gators really could be.

I would say squat. Wins are great, but hardware is the measuring stick. Mullen has no hardware. His window for winning the East is rapidly closing.

 

[ALLVOL24/7/365]

This is why I'm saying Bailey will be the starter. Bailey being an early enrollee is huge. He's going to go through winter workouts and spring practice, giving him a huge leg up over most true freshman QBs.

I thought that Pruitt's comment about him was telling...he throws "with anticipation." In other words, he won't be late on his throws like JG is. Folks just have a hard time believing that a freshman can come in and start at QB. But Manning did it. Clausen did it (and, were it not for a collarbone injury, would have started game 1 of that season). Tyler Bray, Jalen Hurts, Trevor Lawrence, Jake Fromm...plenty of guys do it. But they have to be a certain level of talent and the situation has to be right. In this case, Bailey is a top talent, and the situation is that UT has a very average starting QB right now (that's being nice)...and Bailey is coming in early. All the ingredients are there for a freshman starter at QB.

He might start game 1 but I think it is more like the Trevor Lawrence deal at Clemson where it was a few games into the season before he replaced the incumbent starter. That puts less pressure on HB. That is based upon JG BEING JG again next year. If JG somehow makes great strides and is collecting W’s for us without terrible game altering mistakes then I think CJP rides that horse as long as he can. At the end of the day a W is a W. We are not at the point where we can worry about W’s with lots of style points, just want plain old W’s.

 

[CrybabyVol]

Nice post, love the positive attitude. Only change I'd make is replace "should" with "could." CJP could win ten games next year. As been mentioned ad nauseam, QB play is huge. What other teams are losing in expired eligibility and early entry to the NFL, what we have returning, and a schedule that sets up nicely, we certainly have a chance at 10 wins. There are no automatic losses on the schedule next year; something we haven't been able to say for 5-6 years.

I like your response, but I disagree. Year three we "should." Especially with the conference being wide open. Oklahoma is down and Lincoln Riley is probably working on an exit strategy. Kirby Smart is the new "Big Game Bob." UF hasn't proven anything. Alabama is always Alabama, but jeez they lose a lot, and didn't look the same last year with what they had. If I was picking in the top ten of the NFL draft, there is not ONE Alabama player I'd be tempted to take.

 

[UGADawg4Life]

How did it put us behind anyone? And who? Bama isn't taking transfers and riding them to the top, nor is UGA. Those super transfers transferred out of the SEC. Last year. We needed to take chances to upgrade talent and ability and had plenty of spots to play with. Also, I'm not really arguing, other than we haven't totally shat the bed with transfers compared to the rest of the sec.

Bama isn't taking transfers and riding them to the top, nor is UGA.

Not entirely sure what "riding them to the top" means but Kirby has had success with transfers in the past and this year we add Newman and McKitty. They have the potential to make the most impact of any transfers in the SEC.

 

[LargeOrange1]

Velus and Cade.
Sounds like a Sylvester Stallone movie.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Can't say I disagree with you. It's just this absurd feeling I got about Hill. And again, it just might be the six B52 cocktails talking. Shoulda stayed in bed.

I'd keep the cocktails thing to yourself..

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

You lost me at “Mullen has accomplished squat at Florida”.
Get a clue - Mullen has chalked up back to back double digit wins in his first two years, the second with a backup QB.

Yeah, but he missed on 44 four and five star guys in his home state..... according to Rivals anyway....

 

[Elhanan]

9-3 would be a quality season for us and a shot at 10 with the bowl.

Id assume UF makes their move next season and edges out UGA for the east. The west is going to be nuts though. Tons of talented coaches that could cause chaos in any game. I’m not sure how you pick anyone unless LSU or Bama show something special early.

 

[Billy Ratliff]

CJP should win ten games next year. There is no reason with this stuff he should not.

Lulz. Absolutely no reason....

 

[The Original Fade]

Yeah, but he missed on 44 four and five star guys in his home state..... according to Rivals anyway....

Meaning he’s doing more with less? Kinda proves he’s a darn good coach if you ask me

 

[The Original Fade]

What does he have to show for it? He's one spot ahead of us in recruiting. He has no SECc appearances. Oh and let's discuss the backup. Every gator fan on this board says Trask is better than Franks. How did Mullen drop the ball there? Mullen can't beat UGA, and his luck with us and fsu is running out.

Yeah, Mullen has really dropped the ball with his 21-5 record since coming to Gainesville. His only losses last year were the the national champs and UGA - what a loser. Lol

 

[CrybabyVol]

Meaning he’s doing more with less? Kinda proves he’s a darn good coach if you ask me

why? Being a head coach is now being a CEO. Part of operations is recruiting. Florida is one spot ahead of us on Rivals in '20, they have Florida, and FSU has been a disaster for three seasons. Miami hasn't been any great shakes either. In one month, Mullen and Pruitt will have had three recruiting classes at their schools. IF (and it's a fair IF) you consider that Mullen's second class rapidly fell apart, then CJP has basically equaled the recruiting results of UF. So again, when I say that Mullen has not accomplished anything at UF this part of what I am pointing to.

 

[CrybabyVol]

Yeah, Mullen has really dropped the ball with his 21-5 record since coming to Gainesville. His only losses last year were the the national champs and UGA - what a loser. Lol

Would you take Mullen over CJP? I wouldn't. And that's not even saying I have complete conviction for CJP, but I'd take CJP's upside/recruiting over Mullen right now. There's reasons that Mullen is getting compared to Richt.

 

[CINCYVOL]

Put down the gasoline can before you hurt somebody.

Three of the four starting QBs in the 2020 NCAA playoffs came to their team via the transfer portal. Not to take anything away from UT's players, but none of Pruitt's signed transfers have come close to having that kind of impact. Cade Mays is a great OL, though.

I am not sure what you consider squat to be, but Dan Mullen has won 21 games in two seasons since becoming FL's HC. He's also had two blowout wins over UT.

Good Lord, comparing Mullen and UF situation is completely different than what Pruitt inherited. How many times did UF win the East with McElwain? When is the last time UT won the SEC east? UF was stocked on the lines, UT was not. Not to mention QB and skill players. UF roster was just better, but that gap is closing.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I would say squat. Wins are great, but hardware is the measuring stick. Mullen has no hardware. His window for winning the East is rapidly closing.

I would say from the context of where they were to where they are is a pretty good measuring stick and a pretty good indicator of how they are trending.