Vanilla Offense Theory

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OuterBanksVol

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Last season when our Offense was rolling, the read options by Dobbs often featured a WR in motion which froze the LBs because of the jet sweep threat. This year, it seems like DeBord has either forgotten how effective this was, or maybe he is just using a very vanilla playbook in the first three games to avoid tipping the offensive gameplan to the Gators. Is our offense just not as good as expected, or are the coaches intentionally keeping the foot off the gas pedal?
 
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While I don't doubt we are still Vanilla on purpose, that doesn't explain poor QB play, poor WR catching, poor OLine performance etc....

Our coaching is clearly the issue.
 
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Hey, bad luck comes in 3's....as they say. We've had 3 bad performance games so far, today arguably worse than the first game. Plus the injuries. I think we got it out of our system now. The team WILL come together and get the offense going against UF and take it to them.
 
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I don't think Bill Belichek or Bobby Petrino could come up with a game plan that would work with this line.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
...maybe he is just using a very vanilla playbook in the first three games to avoid tipping the offensive gameplan to the Gators. Is our offense just not as good as expected, or are the coaches intentionally keeping the foot off the gas pedal?
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Our offense is not very good and the "vanilla" theory holds no more water now than it did 2 weeks ago, IMO.

I believe DeBord is capable of mixing up things more than he has so far if Jones will allow it, but with this OL it's hard to know if we'd be any more effective or not.
 
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VolsRule said:
Butch has been holding back a bunch of stuff for Florida
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Stop this insanity. This is just a delusional fan theory because people refuse to accept the play-calling and game management are just bad.

And even IF the theory is true, that is just as bad. Any coaching staff that is willing to purposely disguise the "real" offense for 3 weeks and almost lose 3 games because of it, deserves just as much criticism as the coaches that have vanilla gameplans. GROW A PAIR. Coach like you know you can't be beat. Dictate the pace. Stop being a pansy.
 
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TuVol4u said:
Hey, bad luck comes in 3's....as they say. We've had 3 bad performance games so far, today arguably worse than the first game. Plus the injuries. I think we got it out of our system now. The team WILL come together and get the offense going against UF and take it to them.
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And whose OL are we going to borrow for the game?
 
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At some point, and it may be next week, we are going to have to pump fake the swing out pass to Kamara and throw it deep to a wide open receiver (I sure hope the FLA coaches don't troll this site).
 
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I remember it being said , our offense would be a "Pro-Style Spread" and a lot of fun to watch......... just haven't seen it this year.
 
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ftsandersvol said:
At some point, and it may be next week, we are going to have to pump fake the swing out pass to Kamara and throw it deep to a wide open receiver (I sure hope the FLA coaches don't troll this site).
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we tried it twice today , Wolfe dropped the sure touchdown, and then Dobbs pass was batted down
 
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VolsRule said:
Butch has been holding back a bunch of stuff for Florida
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Has he been making us play bad in an effort to fool them also? Maybe he's intentionally telling the OL to suck and almost cost us a couple of games on purpose too.

Just once it'd be nice to have this place be realists.
 
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ftsandersvol said:
At some point, and it may be next week, we are going to have to pump fake the swing out pass to Kamara and throw it deep to a wide open receiver (I sure hope the FLA coaches don't troll this site).
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Right. We haven't done that at all this year lmao!!!!! Are you serious?
 
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kamoshika said:
Our offense is not very good and the "vanilla" theory holds no more water now than it did 2 weeks ago, IMO.

I believe DeBord is capable of mixing up things more than he has so far if Jones will allow it, but with this OL it's hard to know if we'd be any more effective or not.
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Expect for the fact that the alignment and play calling on the last 2 scoring drives looked completely different than the rest of the game.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Last season when our Offense was rolling, the read options by Dobbs often featured a WR in motion which froze the LBs because of the jet sweep threat. This year, it seems like DeBord has either forgotten how effective this was, or maybe he is just using a very vanilla playbook in the first three games to avoid tipping the offensive gameplan to the Gators. Is our offense just not as good as expected, or are the coaches intentionally keeping the foot off the gas pedal?
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There is no vanilla offense bud. This is Debord throwing everything out there. This is the best he has because our players are terrible.

I think Dobbs fell on his forehead over the summer because he plays like a mildly retarded boy. The offensive linemen are all frauds and should have thier scholarships pulled. The receivers are the worst of all. A bunch of premadonnas who can't catch a damn pass.

Now we lose all our defensive talent. Perfect. Just perfect.
 
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jblank said:
You guys crack me up.
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I don't like the O we run.
I don't think our guys are particularly well coached.
I believe that there has been a decision to not run the Full O for whatever reason. (Protect Dobbs from injury...whatever)
I think that's a huge mistake.
If you can't see the difference in play calling in this game then I don't know what to tell you.
 
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Some problems with the vanilla offense plan:
We have developed some bad habits in these 3 scrimmage games that will be hard to shake off once SEC season starts this week
2) we've exposed our weaknesses. Usually it's Florida that finds and exposes our weak spots, but we've allowed a couple cupcakes to show the world the holes in our line
3) by keeping things close, we had to keep our starters in the whole game which means we don't develop depth. Except on defense where our best players have been injured and now we are forced to play back ups and develop depth on the fly

If you're not going to run the offense, they should have put in QD a couple series and at least show something different. they were going 3 and out anyway in the hurry up and punt offense so he couldn't do much worse. In fact his presence might have backed the defense off the line and force them to respect the pass a little more. Instead we show no improvements in 3 weeks

Hopefully the light bulb goes off and everything comes together next week. We have to play better and call better plays to beat Florida. No moral victories for close games this year and no excuses
 
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