Vandy's court and their coach's box (merged)

#127
#127
Yeah, I went to Knoxville Catholic and our old school was the last gym that had students sitting right underneath the basket. And it was a huge advantage. When we moved to our new school and built a new gym, Knox Co. required us not to build a student section underneath the baskets. The same should be done with Vanderbilt's court. The point is that all other courts in college are the same, and having a setup like Vandy provides a unique competitive advantage. All gyms should be equal as far as general setup. You don't see teams getting away with rigging baskets and shortening courts do you? This is high level, Div 1 college baskteball. It shocks me that Vandy has been able to get away with this for so long. They are barely a top 25 team without this advantage.
 
#129
#129
vandyfan said:
I have never heard any other team crying about the benches, and before last night y'all had no problem with them either. UT fans once again trying to find something to cry about.
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Dude, EVERYBODY complains about it. It's whacked and YOU KNOW IT. That's not whinning it's fact.
 
#130
#130
ukvols said:
In all fairness though, you know Vandy has a competitive ballclub when opposing fans are complaining about their arena. Nobody complains about it when they're down.
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If Vandy were to go winless next season, their gym would still suck.
 
#131
#131
Vandy's just scratched the surface. Some other suggestions:

-move the shot and play clocks to the ceiling of the gym.
-move the scorers' table to the upper balcony (better plan those substitutions well in advance).
-Instead of blowing a horn, play "Livin La Vida Loca"
-make the court slope.
-paint the backboards gold.
-dim the lights and light up a giant disco ball above mid court.
-change the court surface to astroturf.

That would be creative. And other teams would have to just deal with it.
 
#133
#133
TennNC said:
Vandy's just scratched the surface. Some other suggestions:

-move the shot and play clocks to the ceiling of the gym.
-move the scorers' table to the upper balcony (better plan those substitutions well in advance).
-Instead of blowing a horn, play "Livin La Vida Loca"
-make the court slope.
-paint the backboards gold.
-dim the lights and light up a giant disco ball above mid court.
-change the court surface to astroturf.

That would be creative. And other teams would have to just deal with it.
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That's good stuff, man.
 
#134
#134
That place is archaic. Their AD is LOST in the Sixties. It is now the 21st Century.

Get a low-bid on a..
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#135
#135
The National Federation Rule for benches in High School which I think is the same for college states that the team benches are determined by game management i.e. the home team. The rule further states it is recommended the benches be on the same side of the floor as the scorers table. All that would have to be done is the NCAA or SEC change the word recommend to require but as many have already said it probably won't happen. I have always wondered what will happen when Stallings is out there at the foul line and someone makes a steal and quick pass and runs over him what will they do? Even though the benches are back a distance under the basket it is possible for a person going in for a shot to get injured by being knocked into the bench. That being said it is an advantage for Vandy but was not the determining factor in our loss Tuesday.
 
#138
#138
Seriously, this thread makes us look like we are making excuses for our loss. The discussion, while valid,will not change anything so we need to move on and look forward to our game against Kentucky.
 
#139
#139
forget that it's an excuse, being the competitor that I am, I would want to remove the excuse so nobody could make it. I would want people to know that we beat 'em because we outplayed them.
 
#140
#140
BigPapaVol said:
forget that it's an excuse, being the competitor that I am, I would want to remove the excuse so nobody could make it. I would want people to know that we beat 'em because we outplayed them.
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BPV - That's an excellent point. Why would any team want that type of advantage (perceived or not)? It just makes them look weak.
 
#141
#141
notverycrucial said:
BPV - That's an excellent point. Why would any team want that type of advantage (perceived or not)? It just makes them look weak.
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you have witnessed my quota of one good point per month. Lucky today was leap day or I would have lost my privileges. Now have 31 more days to think of a new one.
 
#143
#143
Rasputin_Vol said:
people that complain about Vandy's court = excuse makers
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Nonsense. This idea that some people can't grasp, that you can complain about a game's officiating or in Vandy's case their gym and it has nothing to do with claiming it was the reason for the loss, blows me away.
 
#145
#145
What is the excuse Rasp? or you just like seeing your words appear on the screen?

Officiating was horrible the other night...not the reaon we lost...made for terrible viewing

I hate their court...not the reason we lost.

Can you comprehend?
 
#146
#146
allvol123 said:
What is the excuse Rasp? or you just like seeing your words appear on the screen?

Officiating was horrible the other night...not the reaon we lost...made for terrible viewing

I hate their court...not the reason we lost.

Can you comprehend?
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And all I did was make a general statement about people that have been complaining the past few days about Vandy's gym. But for some reason, you took it as a personal attack. Never mentioned you or called you by name. But in general (and I will say this one more time), those that are complaining are excuse makers.

I never came after you, bro...
 
#147
#147
Never said you came after me. Just think it is absurd that a person that complains about the gym or officiating is necessarily blaming either or both on the loss. It is possible some are but not all. The officiating sucked, no one can dispute this. A person can make this statement and it not have anything to do with blaming it for the loss.
 
#149
#149
A coach should be able to coach his team throughout the game. Sure they can practice hand signals for one game a year, but there are situations throughout the game (such as when to foul and not foul) that a coach needs to be able to communicate to his team. There is no other college court that takes the coach away from the sideline. I've never heard of a highschool court set up this way. These players are trained to be able to be coached from the sideline. It's rediculus that the SEC allows Vandy to prevent opposing coaches from doing their job. You can say it's even both ways, but Vandy practices coaching this way for 20+ games. Not just one. The opposing team is always on offense away from their coach in the first half. This allows Vandy to jump on their opponents early when the opposing team is still trying to adjust to the flow of the game without being able to communicate with their coach. There are new rules that the coaches need to stay in the coach's box. The coach's box needs to be the same place at all courts.
 
#150
#150
In September 2003, Vanderbilt Chacellor Gordon Gee fired Athletic Director Todd Turner and eliminated the athletics department and the position of Athletics Director. Vanderbilt does not administer intercollegiate athletics separately from other student organizations, but as a part of the university's Division of Student Life, which oversees all student organizations and activities.

Coming to the SEC table in a position of weakness without an Athletics Director, Vandy should find it difficult to defend their baseline seating arrangement for basketball games. Baseline seating does afford Vandy an unfair advantage. Who's better---someone who does something 20 times/year or someone who does something 1 time/year.

I live close to Nashville and the story I've always heard is that sideline seating interferes with the view for fans in the first few rows of seats, which are probably not the cheap seats! However, now that defense doesn't hold water when they allow not only one, but two sets of cheerleaders (one set on each end where the teams would be seated) to sit/kneel during the games, jumping to their feet and cheering after big plays.

I wish the rest of the SEC school Athletic Directors/Presidents would band together and force the issue with the SEC to either force Vanderbilt to conform to the standard sideline seating arrangement or be forced to play all their games on the road!!
 
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