Vanderbilt vs Tennessee Youth Comparison

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#27
Who exactly has Vandy beaten? A poor Ole Miss team that is absolutely terrible (and played Arky just as tough the week before), Army, Elon, and Uconn. And all those games at home. They gave Georgia a scare after the Dawgs decided to stop playing and were thinking about playing in Jacksonville in 2 weeks. Arkansas has looked terrible on the road all year.

Remember 2008, all these closet Vandy fans came on this site and said the same things about Vanderbilt like they are heading in the right direction and Tennessee can't compete against Vandy. Then what does Tennessee do? They destroy them in Nashville with getting zero production from any of our qbs in our worse season in recent history.


Guys this Vandy team is the same ol Vandy. They play tough but don't win anything. No one cares about Vandy. No one will ever care about Vandy They play at a stadium that seats 30,000 and that is only filled when Tennessee or Bama play there.
 
#28
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ENGRVOL said:
Who exactly has Vandy beaten? A poor Ole Miss team that is absolutely terrible (and played Arky just as tough the week before), Army, Elon, and Uconn. And all those at home. They gave Georgia a scare after the Dawgs decided to stop playing and were thinking about playing in Jacksonville in 2 weeks. Arkansas has looked terrible on the road all year.

Remember 2008, all these closet Vandy fans came on this site and said the same things about Vanderbilt like they are heading in the right direction and Tennessee can't compete against Vandy. Then what does Tennessee do? They destroy them in Nashville with getting zero production from any of our qbs in our worse season in recent history.


Guys this Vandy team is the same ol Vandy. They play tough but don't win anything. No one cares about Vandy. No one will ever care about Vandy They play at a stadium that seats 30,000 and that is only filled when Tennessee or Bama play there.
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Too bad us almost beating LSU last year doesn't get as much attention.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Great point, fade. Vandy and Tennessee are starting 28 players a piece. That's an amazing statistic. Give me a break, the OP is clueless.
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Hey mor*n ... here's the links I used to compute the statistics. As I said in the original post, I used the latest posted "Rivals" depth charts. The 28 players includes the special teams as I also stated in the original post but of course I was assuming you could read dipsh!t.

College Player Database - Depth Chart

College Player Database - Depth Chart
 
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teeball said:
Hey mor*n ... here's the links I used to compute the statistics. As I said in the original post, I used the latest posted "Rivals" depth charts. The 28 players includes the special teams as I also stated in the original post but of course I'm assuming you can read dipsh!t.

College Player Database - Depth Chart

College Player Database - Depth Chart
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What a great point you have. Now, here's something to factor into your brilliant comparison. Take the tops 3 or 4 players off of vandys team and tell me how they'll do. Then the comparison might mean something. As of right now, it means nothing and you're still clueless.
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LawVol13 said:
What a great point you have. Now, here's something to factor into your brilliant comparison. Take the tops 3 or 4 players off of vandys team and tell me how they'll do. Then the comparison might mean something. As of right now, it means nothing and you're still clueless.
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Forget it LawVol13. You can explain till your fingers turn blue and the screamers will still scream. And whine. What's your opinion if Maggit had played yesterday? I think he would have made a big difference in stopping Wilds.
 
#32
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KoachKletus said:
Forget it LawVol13. You can explain till your fingers turn blue and the screamers will still scream. And whine. What's your opinion if Maggit had played yesterday? I think he would have made a big difference in stopping Wilds.
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I think losing maggit hurt us without question. I think he would have helped alot in defending those speed sweeps Carolina was running.
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The problem with the OP's stats is that main problem with all our current starters is that 4 of them ARE NOT Bray, Hunter, JJ and Lathers.
 
#35
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Chilmonty said:
The main problem with the OP's stats is that main problem with all our current starters is that 4 of them ARE NOT Bray, Hunter, JJ and Lathers.
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There are huge flaws in the op's argument. Rather than address them, he tosses a couple insults and runs away like a coward.
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SpringBokVol said:
"Youth Research" - this counts the number of years of experience each starter of every SEC team has. For example, if a player is a redshirt sophomore, he has 3 years experience. As you can clearly see, Tennessee is a lot younger than Vandy - not even close.

Tennessee
Offense: 27 years
Defense: 25 years

Vanderbilt
Offense: 34 years
Defense: 41 years

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Haha good stuff
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#37
#37
I'm still trying to figure out the 8 senior starters for the Vols? Zach Rogers and Taruen Poole on offense. Ben Martin, Malik, and Vereen on D? Has TN started 8 seniors at any point during the year? I didn't even know we had 8 seniors that contributed.
 
#38
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teeball said:
Hey mor*n ... here's the links I used to compute the statistics. As I said in the original post, I used the latest posted "Rivals" depth charts. The 28 players includes the special teams as I also stated in the original post but of course I was assuming you could read dipsh!t.

College Player Database - Depth Chart

College Player Database - Depth Chart
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Now we're getting somewhere. I can at least respect you for doing research and not pulling numbers out of your ass, but I have a couple complaints about the quality of the information:

1. You included the long snapper and the holder. You also counted Tauren Poole twice, since he's listed first at two positions (including an incorrect listing as top KR).

2. Juniors or seniors listed as starters that did not start last game or have been frequently injured: Matt Simms, Zach Rogers, Ben Martin, Marsalis Teague. Their replacements were two sophomores and two freshmen.

3. If I understand correctly, Lanier is listed incorrectly and is actually a sophomore.


That brings your number from 15 to 7. Changes the game a bit.
 
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tvols75 said:
I'm still trying to figure out the 8 senior starters for the Vols? Zach Rogers and Taruen Poole on offense. Ben Martin, Malik, and Vereen on D? Has TN started 8 seniors at any point during the year? I didn't even know we had 8 seniors that contributed.
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You're forgetting Poole (qua kick returner), Guess (long snapper), and Rhome (holder). Also, Zach is a junior.
 
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tvols75 said:
I'm still trying to figure out the 8 senior starters for the Vols? Zach Rogers and Taruen Poole on offense. Ben Martin, Malik, and Vereen on D? Has TN started 8 seniors at any point during the year? I didn't even know we had 8 seniors that contributed.
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We only started 9 total srs and jrs against sc, and 2 of those were Ben bartholomew and Zach Rogers, who accounted for 1 catch for 9 yards. Next year, we will start 2 srs on offense and maybe 2 on defense.
If people had a tad of common sense, they would just suck it up. Of course the coaches aren't perfect. None are. Talented, experienced and deep teams can overcome coaching and player mistakes. We are none of those right now.
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ENGRVOL said:
Who exactly has Vandy beaten? A poor Ole Miss team that is absolutely terrible (and played Arky just as tough the week before), Army, Elon, and Uconn. And all those games at home. They gave Georgia a scare after the Dawgs decided to stop playing and were thinking about playing in Jacksonville in 2 weeks. Arkansas has looked terrible on the road all year.

Remember 2008, all these closet Vandy fans came on this site and said the same things about Vanderbilt like they are heading in the right direction and Tennessee can't compete against Vandy. Then what does Tennessee do? They destroy them in Nashville with getting zero production from any of our qbs in our worse season in recent history.


Guys this Vandy team is the same ol Vandy. They play tough but don't win anything. No one cares about Vandy. No one will ever care about Vandy They play at a stadium that seats 30,000 and that is only filled when Tennessee or Bama play there.
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vandy will beat us this year
 
#43
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teeball said:
I keep hearing all this talk about how “young” the Tennessee football team is … Pelosi !!! (ie BS !!!).

According to the most recent "Rivals" depth charts (including special teams) listed for both Vanderbilt and Tennessee; Vanderbilt starts 6 seniors, 10 juniors, 10 sophomores and 2 freshmen. Tennessee starts 8 seniors, 7 juniors, 9 sophomores and 4 freshmen.

So Vanderbilt is starting 16 seniors/juniors and 12 sophomores/freshmen. Tennessee is starting 15 seniors/juniors and 13 sophomores/freshmen …virtually identical.

Gentlemen, while youth is a problem it’s not the biggest problem as many other teams have youthful players … the problem is … I hate to say is … coaching.

The Vanderbilt coaches are getting an A+ effort out of their team every week and could have beaten both Georgia and Arkansas with just an ounce of luck. Tennessee, on the other hand, seems to be backing up. Furthermore, I’ll bet the players “Star Ranking” comparisons between the teams will only exacerbate our coaching failures.

While I have appreciated Coach Dooley’s intellect, charm, wit and honesty; I’m now wavering on whether or not he has the “right stuff” to be a successful head coach in the SEC. I’m wrong about many things and I certainly hope I’m wrong about CDD but please … let’s stop all this excuse making and just say “the jury’s still out”.
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wow. kudos. my thoughts EXACTLY!!!!

scary.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
"Youth Research" - this counts the number of years of experience each starter of every SEC team has. For example, if a player is a redshirt sophomore, he has 3 years experience. As you can clearly see, Tennessee is a lot younger than Vandy - not even close.

Tennessee
Offense: 27 years
Defense: 25 years

Vanderbilt
Offense: 34 years
Defense: 41 years

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now consider Dooley has had 2 years to install his system while Franklin is in his first year and don't forget what the OP eluded to in his OP regarding the talent ratings of each teams players.

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#45
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UT's#1Fan said:
now consider Dooley has had 2 years to install his system while Franklin is in his first year and don't forget what the OP eluded to in his OP regarding the talent ratings of each teams players.

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Now consider that the quarterback running the system is a true freshman, and consider that a vast portion of the defense are first year players as well. Stupid post.
 
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#46
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LawVol13 said:
What a great point you have. Now, here's something to factor into your brilliant comparison. Take the tops 3 or 4 players off of vandys team and tell me how they'll do. Then the comparison might mean something. As of right now, it means nothing and you're still clueless.
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oh, a hypothetical... when all else fails, go all hypothetical on his a$$....

you lost. get over it and move on.
 
#47
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UT's#1Fan said:
oh, a hypothetical... when all else fails, go all hypothetical on his a$$....

you lost. get over it and move on.
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Yes, it's clear that it's unfair to consider Tennessee's injuries when attempting to make a comparison between our roster and others. But, you're right, it makes perfect sense to pretend players that either aren't on the team or are hurt for the rest of the year just aren't contributing like they should.

Jesus, you should really try harder.
 
#48
#48
I tell you one thing UT leads the country in. Ignorant dumbass fans. Our fanbase is stupid beyond repair. Dooley won't make it, but it will not be because he can't. It will be because our stupid fanbase will not let him.
 
#49
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LawVol13 said:
Now consider that the quarterback running the system is a true freshman, and consider that a vast portion of the defense are first year players as well. Stupid post.
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I see your memory is approximately 3 quarters long... the true freshman that ran the system only ran it for a little over 3 quarters over the past 12 quarters that we have been abysmal and have shown a significant step back with our offense. The other 9 or so quarters was led by a senior who was at one time the guy Dooley picked over a year ago to run his system. Clearly Simms has regressed and that is mainly on the coaches.

Also, let’s not forget we were not very good WITH Bray playing in the UGA game. This downward trend started way before Bray was injured…
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I tell you one thing UT leads the country in. Ignorant dumbass fans. Our fanbase is stupid beyond repair. Dooley won't make it, but it will not be because he can't. It will be because our stupid fanbase will not let him.
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Really? I thought with fans like Posivol we rivaled all other fanbases in IQ.
 
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