Valdosta State University supports American flag stomping

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I will gladly admit I'm wrong if you show me the post where Ras said Russia has innocent intentions.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I will gladly admit I'm wrong if you show me the post where Ras said Russia has innocent intentions.
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Not just Ras, but more than a few keep playing the "Russians are victims" talk.

Give me a bit and I'll dig up some jewels.
 
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joevol33 said:
Free speech and all aside, if you don't like our country or flag then get the crap out of this country. I dislike a lot of things obama does, but I pray for him and this country everyday, same with all of our leaders. Crap on these people who don't appreciate what that flag stands for.
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That's a hell of a contradiction with which to start a post.


It's a flag. A ****ing flag.
 
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BTW, I just read a book that talked about the band Rush getting blackballed because of their libertarian themes in their songs. It culminated with a major publication/well-known journalist comparing them to Nazis.

It's pretty funny that Godwin's Law has been in full effect for longer than the internet's been around.
 
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Grand Vol said:
What it symbolizes is important to some of us.

You think of it as a piece of cloth. Some of us look beyond that.
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And some of us aren't so simple as to revere an inanimate object. The flag represents nothing to me. The words of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, however, mean a great deal to me.

Sorry, but things like the pledge, the star spangled banner, and the reverence of a flag really bother me in an Orwellian type of way.
 
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Grand Vol said:
What it symbolizes is important to some of us.

You think of it as a piece of cloth. Some of us look beyond that.
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Most of us who have family, or personally as you did GV, that served appreciate the flag and respect it and understand the true meaning behind it as the entire country once did years ago.
 
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RockyTop411 said:
Most of us who have family, or personally as you did GV, that served appreciate the flag and respect it and understand the true meaning behind it as the entire country once did years ago.
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Simp, simp, simp. I think it's disgraceful to equate the flag with ultimate sacrifice.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
And some of us aren't so simple as to revere an inanimate object. The flag represents nothing to me. The words of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, however, mean a great deal to me.

Sorry, but things like the pledge, the star spangled banner, and the reverence of a flag really bother me in an Orwellian type of way.
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Again, you see it as an inanimate object. Simple is seeing it as just an object and not seeing what it represents.

I see it as a symbol of the people, the words of the Constitution and Declaration and the principles of the United States as a whole. Things that are worth revering. And if those items are summed up in one symbolic flag, that means something to me.
 
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RockyTop411 said:
Most of us who have family, or personally as you did GV, that served appreciate the flag and respect it and understand the true meaning behind it as the entire country once did years ago.
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ahhh yes, the good ole days when everyone loved America. When was this exactly?

1920's? Nope too many people voted for Debs, and the IWW/Communist Party was still around.

1930's? Nope too many pro-nazi rallies, including Madison Square Garden,Oh, and the whole depression thing really made people love America

1940's? Maybe but only because of the war. But what about the amount of black soldiers that refused to take the oath until integration? Or the women who desired for American industry to be more inclusionary?

1950's? Yeah maybe, but all those directors and Hollywood didn't seem to be fans. Neither did the Beatnik movement

1960's? Nahhh too many hippies wanted to turn America into a commune and were burning their draft cards; oh yeah and the Black Power movement didn't particularly like America the way it was

1970's? Nahhh too many former hippies coked up and burning American flags because of the economic depression

1980's? Everyone loved America in the 1980's because Reagan. Duh

1990's? Massive amounts of extremists groups begin popping up all over America to just keep it the same?

2000's? Gimme a break. We have so much apathy towards the country now that most don't even vote.

What is the meaning behind it exactly that everyone supported?

What makes America great is my ability to burn the flag, keep my hat on during the national anthem, or to not cross my heart for the pledge----I know of people in history that were pressured to do those things: they are called Nazis.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Again, you see it as an inanimate object. Simple is seeing it as just an object and not seeing what it represents.

I see it as a symbol of the people, the words of the Constitution and Declaration and the principles of the United States as a whole. Things that are worth revering. And if those items are summed up in one symbolic flag, that means something to me.
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"Symbol."

You aren't understanding my point at all. Symbolism in regards to inanimate objects is not a good thing. I don't need a cloth to revere the principles on which this country was founded. I have the words and ideas of the Constitution for that.

If you need an idol for that, I feel sorry for you.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
"Symbol."

You aren't understanding my point at all. Symbolism in regards to inanimate objects is not a good thing. I don't need a cloth to revere the principles on which this country was founded. I have the words and ideas of the Constitution for that.

If you need an idol for that, I feel sorry for you.
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And you aren't understanding my point either. Sorry that you are taking a simplistic look at this far more than I am.
 
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mrorange211 said:
What makes America great is my ability to burn the flag, keep my hat on during the national anthem, or to not cross my heart for the pledge----I know of people in history that were pressured to do those things: they are called Nazis.
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This is what some of the romantics in this thread are utterly failing to grasp.
 
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