'26 VA RB Savion Hiter (Michigan commit)

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BelievetheHeup2022 said:
Not sure where you're getting that none of these things are happening financially. That's part of the problem here. People go on these rants without doing their due diligence as to what is actually going on within the program. We offered a sizable NIL package here. To the point that us and Michigan priced out UGA and Ohio State. People complain because they are miserable with themselves. Most of the people whining about the prices going up don't even attend the games. Kinda like you taking a shot at the Adidas deal that was announced about a week ago. You're already making an assessment on its impact before anything has had the proper time to be evaluated. People like you will never be pleased and nor should anyone try to please you.
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My point is the recruiting classes have all been in the same range since the beginning of Heupel's tenure. Hell, this goes back to the Pruitt era. Hovering around the 12-17 range with the occasional fridge top 10 class depending on recruiting service. Then, turn around and wonder why Ohio State and UGA kick our teeth in. We constantly get told how great and savvy Spyre & the Vol Club is while the quality of the recruiting classes remains status quo.

If you're asking fans to start paying a premium for seats, tacking on a talent fee, asking for additional money through the collective. And then signing a deal with a "lesser" apparel company for financial gain, then there needs to be better returns on the field. The Adidas deal certainly has been a talking point with Tristen Keys, so it's safe to say people are expecting an immediate impact regardless of when it officially goes into effect.
Also, if we're being honest, the transfer portal hauls the last few years outside of Colton Hood & Jermod McCoy have been very underwhelming.

This admin and staff have done a really nice job all around, but it's getting to the point fans deserve & need to start seeing a better return on their investments. Like a few others have mentioned, there are plenty of programs that charge or expect less that have experienced more success than Tennessee over the same period of time.
 
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Volnbeers said:
going to the playoffs was nice, but i think the better barometer is actually competing with teams like bama, georgia and florida at their building.

regarding Adidas, i'll be shocked if it actually has any sort of impact on football recruiting
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Completely agree. I personally don't believe Tennessee is currently recruiting well enough to do so on a consistent basis.
 
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
My point is the recruiting classes have all been in the same range since the beginning of Heupel's tenure. Hell, this goes back to the Pruitt era. Hovering around the 12-17 range with the occasional fridge top 10 class depending on recruiting service. Then, turn around and wonder why Ohio State and UGA kick our teeth in. We constantly get told how great and savvy Spyre & the Vol Club is while the quality of the recruiting classes remains status quo.

If you're asking fans to start paying a premium for seats, tacking on a talent fee, asking for additional money through the collective. And then signing a deal with a "lesser" apparel company for financial gain, then there needs to be better returns on the field. The Adidas deal certainly has been a talking point with Tristen Keys, so it's safe to say people are expecting an immediate impact regardless of when it officially goes into effect.
Also, if we're being honest, the transfer portal hauls the last few years outside of Colton Hood & Jermod McCoy have been very underwhelming.

This admin and staff have done a really nice job all around, but it's getting to the point fans deserve & need to start seeing a better return on their investments. Like a few others have mentioned, there are plenty of programs that charge or expect less that have experienced more success than Tennessee over the same period of time.
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Stop with what the fans “deserve”. That’s stupid. We are literally winning games. We were freaking 10-2 and went to the playoff JUST LAST YEAR.
 
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
If anyone cares about taking the next step, these are the type of recruitments & players you need to start winning out on.

Again, if you're content with going 8-4 to 10-2 every year with an occasional playoff berth then I can see why a lot of you defend every recruiting miss.

When you're in a holding pattern for 3-4 years with nothing improving while asking the fans to choke up more cash at every turn, don't be surprised when people complain.

The Adidas deal made a ton of sense on the surface, however if it doesn't result in better recruiting then the move from Nike is moot and unnecessary from a performance standpoint.

If you're good with school admin lining their pocket without substantial roster investment & improvement, then you'll sleep just fine at night.
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People always complain- doesn't matter what the outcomes are. It's a tale as old as time.
 
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
My point is the recruiting classes have all been in the same range since the beginning of Heupel's tenure. Hell, this goes back to the Pruitt era. Hovering around the 12-17 range with the occasional fridge top 10 class depending on recruiting service. Then, turn around and wonder why Ohio State and UGA kick our teeth in. We constantly get told how great and savvy Spyre & the Vol Club is while the quality of the recruiting classes remains status quo.

If you're asking fans to start paying a premium for seats, tacking on a talent fee, asking for additional money through the collective. And then signing a deal with a "lesser" apparel company for financial gain, then there needs to be better returns on the field. The Adidas deal certainly has been a talking point with Tristen Keys, so it's safe to say people are expecting an immediate impact regardless of when it officially goes into effect.
Also, if we're being honest, the transfer portal hauls the last few years outside of Colton Hood & Jermod McCoy have been very underwhelming.

This admin and staff have done a really nice job all around, but it's getting to the point fans deserve & need to start seeing a better return on their investments. Like a few others have mentioned, there are plenty of programs that charge or expect less that have experienced more success than Tennessee over the same period of time.
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Which programs are those? What prices do they charge? How many games are you going to this year?
 
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
My point is the recruiting classes have all been in the same range since the beginning of Heupel's tenure. Hell, this goes back to the Pruitt era. Hovering around the 12-17 range with the occasional fridge top 10 class depending on recruiting service. Then, turn around and wonder why Ohio State and UGA kick our teeth in. We constantly get told how great and savvy Spyre & the Vol Club is while the quality of the recruiting classes remains status quo.

If you're asking fans to start paying a premium for seats, tacking on a talent fee, asking for additional money through the collective. And then signing a deal with a "lesser" apparel company for financial gain, then there needs to be better returns on the field. The Adidas deal certainly has been a talking point with Tristen Keys, so it's safe to say people are expecting an immediate impact regardless of when it officially goes into effect.
Also, if we're being honest, the transfer portal hauls the last few years outside of Colton Hood & Jermod McCoy have been very underwhelming.

This admin and staff have done a really nice job all around, but it's getting to the point fans deserve & need to start seeing a better return on their investments. Like a few others have mentioned, there are plenty of programs that charge or expect less that have experienced more success than Tennessee over the same period of time.
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You are seeing returns, you’re just mad because we missed out on a high ranked player and you’re looking for someone to lash out at.

You’re not altogether wrong, this type of head to head may be the last step on our journey to elite. But bro, JH turned this program around from Day 1. We just made the CFB playoff, lost to eventual champs. We’re winning some of these battles— Sanders, T. smith, Arion Carter, Gass… I could go on. We’re seeing a return. Try not to ignore it in moments of frustration. I’m guilty of the same— should’ve heard me after Arkansas last year.
 
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benholt06 said:
You are seeing returns, you’re just mad because we missed out on a high ranked player and you’re looking for someone to lash out at.

You’re not altogether wrong, this type of head to head may be the last step on our journey to elite. But bro, JH turned this program around from Day 1. We just made the CFB playoff, lost to eventual champs. We’re winning some of these battles— Sanders, T. smith, Arion Carter, Gass… I could go on. We’re seeing a return. Try not to ignore it in moments of frustration. I’m guilty of the same— should’ve heard me after Arkansas last year.
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People dwell on the negative and don't care about the positives. Every high level school loses these battles. We have also won some. There are also some on here who love to get the reactions from people.
 
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benholt06 said:
You are seeing returns, you’re just mad because we missed out on a high ranked player and you’re looking for someone to lash out at.

You’re not altogether wrong, this type of head to head may be the last step on our journey to elite. But bro, JH turned this program around from Day 1. We just made the CFB playoff, lost to eventual champs. We’re winning some of these battles— Sanders, T. smith, Arion Carter, Gass… I could go on. We’re seeing a return. Try not to ignore it in moments of frustration. I’m guilty of the same— should’ve heard me after Arkansas last year.
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I hear you. Just personally feel like it's time to take the next step.

Just frustrated looking at the recruiting class as a whole right now because you pretty much have an idea what to expect over the next 2-3 years.
 
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BelievetheHeup2022 said:
I look at it more like criticizing those that provide the information while freeloading off of it at the same time. Not sure why you would talk down on what people do with their $9.99 a month. If that's too rich for your blood, just say as much. Oh, and your welcome by the way
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I didn't reply at or attack, you or a subscriber, I was agreeing with GFW and Steve. I didn't thank you bc I'm not here for that information. I have family members with subscriptions that would tell me what's said if I cared, I don't. But I'm still allowed to have an opinion on the media, I think.

I'm here, and was a member on Gridscape before here, because there are people here whose info and opinions I value. They share that info when they can because they're fans and we discuss those opinions freely because that's what fans do. It's not a business for them and those people certainly don't get their information from pay sites or state run media.

Maybe ask me why it bothers me instead of assuming I'm too cheap to pay, if you actually want to know. It's not my business what people do with their money. Unfortunately, I'm sure I waste more than $10 a month on more frivolous things than subscriptions. But it does concern me where people place their trust & belief.

History would suggest it's risky to consider people, whose primary goal is self-enrichment/importance, to be trustworthy sources of information. They work to maximize their own value, not their product's value. Their trade is a "gussied-up" version of manipulation. It's just about all the media does anymore. They manufacture drama, uncertainty, outrage, fear; to create dependence in people willing to be dependent. I think that's dangerous to a free society.

I guess most subscribers understand what's going on are willing to endure the attempted manipulation becasue they want the scoop. If so, that's their business. I don't look down on my family members for subscribing. But I do warn that they're being led around by the nose if they don't take it all with a big grain of salt.
 
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
My point is the recruiting classes have all been in the same range since the beginning of Heupel's tenure. Hell, this goes back to the Pruitt era. Hovering around the 12-17 range with the occasional fridge top 10 class depending on recruiting service. Then, turn around and wonder why Ohio State and UGA kick our teeth in. We constantly get told how great and savvy Spyre & the Vol Club is while the quality of the recruiting classes remains status quo.

If you're asking fans to start paying a premium for seats, tacking on a talent fee, asking for additional money through the collective. And then signing a deal with a "lesser" apparel company for financial gain, then there needs to be better returns on the field. The Adidas deal certainly has been a talking point with Tristen Keys, so it's safe to say people are expecting an immediate impact regardless of when it officially goes into effect.
Also, if we're being honest, the transfer portal hauls the last few years outside of Colton Hood & Jermod McCoy have been very underwhelming.

This admin and staff have done a really nice job all around, but it's getting to the point fans deserve & need to start seeing a better return on their investments. Like a few others have mentioned, there are plenty of programs that charge or expect less that have experienced more success than Tennessee over the same period of time.
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Kitselman
Bru
ONL
Moi
Thornton
Pili
Castles

All those guys were pretty good contributors their year(s) here. Plus many other starters from the portal.
 
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Maybe one day fans will understand that no matter how hard you recruit a kid or how much money you offer they just like another school more than yours.

Heup said after Friday’s scrimmage this is the deepest RB room he’s had at UT and you bring 4 of those 5 guys back next year.

Also positioned extremely well for two of the top 5 backs in 2027 in Georges and Tyson Robinson. We will be fine and get our guy soon enough.
 
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
My point is the recruiting classes have all been in the same range since the beginning of Heupel's tenure. Hell, this goes back to the Pruitt era. Hovering around the 12-17 range with the occasional fridge top 10 class depending on recruiting service. Then, turn around and wonder why Ohio State and UGA kick our teeth in. We constantly get told how great and savvy Spyre & the Vol Club is while the quality of the recruiting classes remains status quo.

If you're asking fans to start paying a premium for seats, tacking on a talent fee, asking for additional money through the collective. And then signing a deal with a "lesser" apparel company for financial gain, then there needs to be better returns on the field. The Adidas deal certainly has been a talking point with Tristen Keys, so it's safe to say people are expecting an immediate impact regardless of when it officially goes into effect.
Also, if we're being honest, the transfer portal hauls the last few years outside of Colton Hood & Jermod McCoy have been very underwhelming.

This admin and staff have done a really nice job all around, but it's getting to the point fans deserve & need to start seeing a better return on their investments. Like a few others have mentioned, there are plenty of programs that charge or expect less that have experienced more success than Tennessee over the same period of time.
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Omar Norman Lott was awesome here and a 2nd rd pick by a perennial super bowl level team.


noticed you left that out when you mentioned our make believe underwhelming transfers
 
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