UT's chance at March Madness

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Can anyone project where our RPI would be if we beat Florida?

Also what does our RPI need to be to get us comfortably into the tourney?
 
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RedStickVOL said:
Can anyone project where our RPI would be if we beat Florida?

Also what does our RPI need to be to get us comfortably into the tourney?
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Probably around 50.
If we win out,, we'd be in the 40s and probably the third best team in the SEC rpi wise.
Ole Miss might end up with a better win loss but their SOS rankings are so bad we would go before them.
 
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RedStickVOL said:
Can anyone project where our RPI would be if we beat Florida?

Also what does our RPI need to be to get us comfortably into the tourney?
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I'm guessing between 48-50. Honestly Tuesday is more about the perception rather than RPI boost. You add a win like that to your resume at this point in the season and it looks VERY good ok your resume.

If we win out RPI would be around 45. Anything better than 55 and you've got a very good shot, given out resume.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I'm not sure what you're asking?
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I'm assuming that 3 other teams are ahead of us at the of the reg season. People keep saying only 3 get in from the sec. If we get to 20 wins and their are still somehow 3 teams ahead of us, do you think we will or could still make the tourney?
 
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SCowlsVOL said:
I'm assuming that 3 other teams are ahead of us at the of the reg season. People keep saying only 3 get in from the sec. If we get to 20 wins and their are still somehow 3 teams ahead of us, do you think we will or could still make the tourney?
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Depends. Ahead in RPI or conference record? If you mean RPI and should TN get to 20 wins, then yes, they should be in the top 3 of the conference in RPI.
 
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SCowlsVOL said:
I'm assuming that 3 other teams are ahead of us at the of the reg season. People keep saying only 3 get in from the sec. If we get to 20 wins and their are still somehow 3 teams ahead of us, do you think we will or could still make the tourney?
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There's no set number for how many the SEC gets in. Say UT, UK, Bama and Arkansas win out...the SEC would likely get 7 in. The projection of 3 is solely based on resumes AS OF TODAY.

If Tennessee were to win out IMO they'd be in the tourney. They'd likely be a top 4 seed, and get a double bye. That means if they lost their first SECT game it'd likely be to a good team and wouldn't hurt us.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I'm not sure what I want. I don't think a home loss would drop UK out of the top 50 so it'd still be a top 50 win.

At the same time...I know the NCAA doesn't say ok this is how many get in...but there's 37 iirc at large. Right now UK is a bubble team, it'd be nice for some of those bubble teams to eliminate themselves, especially from the SEC. Cause if selection Sunday the committe is siting there and saying ok we got one spot left, UK or UT, I don't like our chances.
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It doesn't matter much now since UK actually won but my thinking was that at some point the committee looks at the bubble teams and says "who did you beat?" Right now the only NCAA tourney team that UT has beaten is WSU Maybe UMass and Bama get there too. But I think UK getting in the tourny and finishing strong is better for UT's resume than them going the other way.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
There's no set number for how many the SEC gets in. Say UT, UK, Bama and Arkansas win out...the SEC would likely get 7 in. The projection of 3 is solely based on resumes AS OF TODAY.

If Tennessee were to win out IMO they'd be in the tourney. They'd likely be a top 4 seed, and get a double bye. That means if they lost their first SECT game it'd likely be to a good team and wouldn't hurt us.
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Even if all win out, they ain't sending 7 from this league. They'd just take best 4 or 5.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Even if all win out, they ain't sending 7 from this league. They'd just take best 4 or 5.
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Yep. No way the league gets near that even if all those teams win out. 4 is my guess with a very outside chance of 5. More than 5 isn't possible IMO
 
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Like someone said above, if we win out then we are in! no questions asked. But if we slip up in one game, then we might need help. IMO we need LSU to win out and we need Florida to win out. If both of those teams do that then Bama, Miss, Mizz are getting more L's. Which would leave Florida, UK, and us atop the SEC. And the LSU win would look good! LSU is a tough team to beat right now. I honestly dont see the SEC getting 5 teams into the dance. Now if Florida, UK, Ole Miss, Bama, Mizz, and UT all win out then we all go dancing but theres one problem...it cant happen because we all play each other! Just wanted to point that out. Last thought: WE control our own destiny! Now go get those Florida gators!!

GO vols
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
There's no set number for how many the SEC gets in. Say UT, UK, Bama and Arkansas win out...the SEC would likely get 7 in. The projection of 3 is solely based on resumes AS OF TODAY.

If Tennessee were to win out IMO they'd be in the tourney. They'd likely be a top 4 seed, and get a double bye. That means if they lost their first SECT game it'd likely be to a good team and wouldn't hurt us.
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JMO, but I think you've got your orange-tinted glasses on. I don't think there's any way we get in without a least one SEC tourney win. Remember last year when we s**t the bed in the SEC Tourney and thought maybe there was still a chance? And in reality- we weren't even "first four out" on Selection Sunday. I think you need to remember how little respect there is for SEC basketball nationally.
 
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If the Vols win their last four SEC games and at least one tourney game, we should get in or have a very good chance of getting in. We might be able to sneak in with three wins out of last four if we also win one or two games in the tournament.

The Florida game is a MUST WIN. We will not get in if we lose to florida, even if we win our next three, unless maybe we have a great tournament and UT never has a great tournament. Bubble teams always need "big" wins--and florida represents that, and the committee will also discount the kentucky win given the loss of their best player. Must beat florida.
 
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We need to at least split Florida and Missouri.
Our main competition for the 4th SEC team to dance is Ole Miss.
We could finish with a worse win loss record and still be the best 4th team.
Ole Miss' SOS is something like 128/275. 1 win vs rpi 1-50 teams.
TN SOS 38/36. 2 wins vs rpi 1-50 teams.
Nothing left on Ole Miss schedule to fix it.
If we split and end up with 20 wins after tourney we'd have 3 wins over rpi 1-50 teams. 2 better than all competitors for the 4th spot.
Our luck - they only take 3.
 
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Watching Enrichment Sport Source and Pennington & Co just said if UT wins its last 4 regular season game their RPI could get as high as 51. How do these guys get paid to do this stuff? Pennington went on to argue that it might not even get that high since even if they win at Auburn and Georgia those games would lower Tenneessee's RPI since they were both so bad. SMH.

For the record, if UT wins out you can figure at least a 16 point bump in RPI, so low 40's at least.
 
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zansdad said:
Watching Enrichment Sport Source and Pennington & Co just said if UT wins its last 4 regular season game their RPI could get as high as 51. How do these guys get paid to do this stuff? Pennington went on to argue that it might not even get that high since even if they win at Auburn and Georgia those games would lower Tenneessee's RPI since they were both so bad. SMH.

For the record, if UT wins out you can figure at least a 16 point bump in RPI, so low 40's at least.
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Total ignorance of the system.
Road wins against bad teams might not bump us, but they certainly wouldn't drop us any.
We could split Florida and Missouri and end up at 51.
 
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calban said:
Total ignorance of the system.
Road wins against bad teams might not bump us, but they certainly wouldn't drop us any.
We could split Florida and Missouri and end up at 51.
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They have so many guests on that show you think one of them could figure out how RPI works. There are only couple dozen web sites that are completely dedicated to it.
 
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zansdad said:
It doesn't matter much now since UK actually won but my thinking was that at some point the committee looks at the bubble teams and says "who did you beat?" Right now the only NCAA tourney team that UT has beaten is WSU Maybe UMass and Bama get there too. But I think UK getting in the tourny and finishing strong is better for UT's resume than them going the other way.
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I understand both sides, that's why it wasn't an easy pick. I still am kind of looking at it that if it comes down to 1 or 2 spots left and you've got Kentucky, Bama, Arkansas and Tennessee sitting there...ya know?
 
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