'26 UT WR Salesi Moa (Tennessee commit)

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Tennessee’s pitch to Salesi Moa​

On July 4, as fireworks exploded in the air and the Moa family celebrated Independence Day, Salesi sat down with his two brothers to narrow down his decision. Sione and Aisea Moa, who play football at UConn and Michigan State, respectively, concocted a points system for their brother to see which school had an edge over the others.

On a scale from one to five — one being the worst and five being the best — the Moa brothers went through factors like a college’s total distance from home, NFL development record, conference affiliation and more. “When you’re in high school, sometimes you get blinded by stuff that maybe doesn’t really matter,” Sione said. “We went through a list of 20 things and kind of weighed those options.” At the end of the survey, Tennessee had the highest score and the Utes came in second — by a single point. For Salesi, that’s what started tipping the scales in the Volunteers’ favor.

Next was a Zoom meeting with Heupel and Tennessee wide receivers coach Kelsey Pope. In a slideshow, the Volunteers compared their wide receiver production to Utah’s over the last two decades. Salesi plays safety on defense, but he wants to specialize as a receiver in college. “They showed their offensive production, receiver production and play caller production,” Ben said. “That was significant. … Utah, historically, is not known for offense.”
Here’s why the Utes lost out on 5-star Utah recruit Salesi Moa
 
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kamoshika said:

Tennessee’s pitch to Salesi Moa​

On July 4, as fireworks exploded in the air and the Moa family celebrated Independence Day, Salesi sat down with his two brothers to narrow down his decision. Sione and Aisea Moa, who play football at UConn and Michigan State, respectively, concocted a points system for their brother to see which school had an edge over the others.

On a scale from one to five — one being the worst and five being the best — the Moa brothers went through factors like a college’s total distance from home, NFL development record, conference affiliation and more. “When you’re in high school, sometimes you get blinded by stuff that maybe doesn’t really matter,” Sione said. “We went through a list of 20 things and kind of weighed those options.” At the end of the survey, Tennessee had the highest score and the Utes came in second — by a single point. For Salesi, that’s what started tipping the scales in the Volunteers’ favor.

Next was a Zoom meeting with Heupel and Tennessee wide receivers coach Kelsey Pope. In a slideshow, the Volunteers compared their wide receiver production to Utah’s over the last two decades. Salesi plays safety on defense, but he wants to specialize as a receiver in college. “They showed their offensive production, receiver production and play caller production,” Ben said. “That was significant. … Utah, historically, is not known for offense.”
Here’s why the Utes lost out on 5-star Utah recruit Salesi Moa
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I, for one, am shocked that Utah lost not because BYU was doing some KGB-esque, cloak and dagger s*** but rather, its just because Tennessee produces good offenses and Utah is cheeks.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
How soon until he loses his fifth star? 😂😂😂😂
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He's not. That's just some of our fans paranoia. Some literally think we are so hated and people are against us. Nobody is out to get us, nor do recruits drop just because they commit to TN. Definitely doesn't stop the paranoid, conspiracy Theorists though, If that was truly the case, all our recruits would drop and Nobody would get bumps..Even as a Vol Fan, I still find those fans to be embarrassingly entertaining! Can't wait for the..When will Keys,Brandon,Moa and Osenda lose their 5th star and when will they reopen previous year's rankings and drop David Sanders and Mike Mathews 5th Star. And this isn't a shot at you, just the ones that actually believe this happens. We all know some think that way!
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
How soon until he loses his fifth star? 😂😂😂😂
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Well…let’s talk about his fifth star…

He’s ranked 94 on 247 and On3 which is a high 4*…he’s an 85 on ESPN which is basically the equivalent of a 94 on the other sites…he is ranked no higher than 35th overall on any site…yet somehow his composite on 247 is .985 which puts him at #31 overall and makes him a 5*…

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Now obviously (I hope it’s obvious anyway), I have no intentions of pointing this out to 247…but I don’t know how this could be anything other than a glitch in their formula…and I wouldn’t be shocked if they correct it at some point…

If this turns out to be the case then he will be losing something he never really had…all the same, dude is still an elite prospect and a consensus top 50 player…I’ve just found this interesting since the first time I viewed his profile
 
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thunder5 said:
Well…let’s talk about his fifth star…

He’s ranked 94 on 247 and On3 which is a high 4*…he’s an 85 on ESPN which is basically the equivalent of a 94 on the other sites…he is ranked no higher than 35th overall on any site…yet somehow his composite on 247 is .985 which puts him at #31 overall and makes him a 5*…

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Now obviously (I hope it’s obvious anyway), I have no intentions of pointing this out to 247…but I don’t know how this could be anything other than a glitch in their formula…and I wouldn’t be shocked if they correct it at some point…

If this turns out to be the case then he will be losing something he never really had…all the same, dude is still an elite prospect and a consensus top 50 player…I’ve just found this interesting since the first time I viewed his profile
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I have no idea how there algorithm works but I wonder if it’s due to drastic differences for some others in the top 50? For example if someone is ranked 20, 25, 35 and 150 maybe they would fall below? 🤷‍♂️

Edit: I still don’t have the answer but I noticed most of the players right after him on 247 also are .94 on 247 with a .98xxx composite. The first deviation is Calvin Russell. He has a .98 on both 247 and their composite. So I looked him up on On3/Rivals. There his composite is 95.67 (called industry ranking). His ESPN is rating is 87 (38th overall)
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
I have no idea how there algorithm works but I wonder if it’s due to drastic differences for some others in the top 50? For example if someone is ranked 20, 25, 35 and 150 maybe they would fall below? 🤷‍♂️

Edit: I still don’t have the answer but I noticed most of the players right after him on 247 also are .94 on 247 with a .98xxx composite. The first deviation is Calvin Russell. He has a .98 on both 247 and their composite. So I looked him up on On3/Rivals. There his composite is 95.67 (called industry ranking). His ESPN is rating is 87 (38th overall)
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He's a 5-star because he averages out the #31 player in the country when considering all services and the top 32 are 5-stars.
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
I have no idea how there algorithm works but I wonder if it’s due to drastic differences for some others in the top 50? For example if someone is ranked 20, 25, 35 and 150 maybe they would fall below? 🤷‍♂️

Edit: I still don’t have the answer but I noticed most of the players right after him on 247 also are .94 on 247 with a .98xxx composite. The first deviation is Calvin Russell. He has a .98 on both 247 and their composite. So I looked him up on On3/Rivals. There his composite is 95.67 (called industry ranking). His ESPN is rating is 87 (38th overall)
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I’m an engineer by trade and not a pure data scientist…my training is geared towards “how do I apply this” more than “what’s the finest detail of this”…I do think the idea of an “industry composite” makes a lot of sense…but what I’ve seen so far is that each website appears to have their own algorithm which (understandably from a business perspective) has weights that are skewed to their own rankings and this leads to anomalies like the one we’re seeing here with Moa
 
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RandomUTfan said:
He's a 5-star because he averages out the #31 player in the country when considering all services and the top 32 are 5-stars.
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I almost replied “how does he average out to 31 when he’s no higher than 35 in any rankings”…then I realized you may have a point here…there’s clearly an algorithm for each service and it’s not a simple average basis that is being applied…Osenda is a great example…5* on 247, 3 * on rivals…when factoring all of these things in maybe Moas “5 star” rating makes sense…

All the same, I’ve seen enough about him to know that he’s an elite prospect and I can’t wait to see him in Orange
 
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